Prior Therric Arms Packs is way too flashy

t3hnerevarine

This set causes me physical pain. I'm not going to be able to play eso until I hear from friends that the hype from this set has died down, and even then it'll be risky

Bright flashes with quests and hard modes and antiquities are at regular times and I can close my eyes tight and avoid the worst of it, but this flash is going to be frequent and irregular in any content with other players, even just overland content

M0ntie

I would have bought it, but too glowey and distracting. Unless the effects don’t happen in actual combat?

phaneub17_ESO

M0ntie wrote: »

I would have bought it, but too glowey and distracting. Unless the effects don’t happen in actual combat?

It continually happens when you unsheathe your weapon this includes weapon swapping, and yes it happens every time, all the time. If you play with the camera zoomed out all the way, its less annoying but if you get into someone else's camera face up it can be blinding even light searing pain. Imagine standing in front of the tank and constantly doing this, sometimes they can't move or have to move in specific spots and you happen to just flash it repeatedly in their face with no control over the constant painful purple flashes.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

As annoying as it is there is one rather big problem

Suddenly changing something people paid for with real money might not go so well with some players.

OnnuK

it may be flashy but it is what makes this pack unique. I love it. I also agree that there should be an adjustment for lowering/ removing all radient/glowy/flashy status for people who have sensibility to these effects.

SilverBride

Marginis wrote: »

I can definitely see an option implemented to tone down effects in settings, so that players with sensitivity to flashing lights can turn them down, especially in low light environments. This is a very important accessibility option, I think, and while PC players have tweaks to achieve something along these lines, console players have no option but to endure (older consoles also can get a lag problem with a lot of flashy effects, for that matter, so an accessibility option would be a double win).

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

kargen27

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As annoying as it is there is one rather big problem

Suddenly changing something people paid for with real money might not go so well with some players.

That is why I am hoping the novelty wears off and maybe with enough complaints the next set out won't be so flashy.

ceiron

Love it. Was a great surprise.

The helm style page is awful so the weapons compensate imo.

They better not change it.

Xinihp

Broken23 wrote: »

I love it

This is only the beginning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp74T9b4Z40

BretonMage

Oh, I think someone flashed it next to me while I was crafting. It was some godawful flash of blinding pink I'd never seen before. Usually I'm not sensitive to bright lights but this was very unpleasant.

Coatmagic

SilverBride wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

I can definitely see an option implemented to tone down effects in settings, so that players with sensitivity to flashing lights can turn them down, especially in low light environments. This is a very important accessibility option, I think, and while PC players have tweaks to achieve something along these lines, console players have no option but to endure (older consoles also can get a lag problem with a lot of flashy effects, for that matter, so an accessibility option would be a double win).

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

Beating a very dead horse. If you do a search you will see all the past requests for ways to turn down/turn off effects.
It wasn't written into the original code, and afaict, they have no (easy) way to implement it.
Over the years I've tried various things, nothing works.. even turning my screen to grey abolishing all definition, the games flashy effects come through (on top?) bright and clear. It's obnoxious.

*The developers do not care because they keep adding more even with all the pleas.

Gaebriel0410

I would like an option to turn off weapon glows in the same way as you can do with the visual upgrades for mounts that you get from training.

I wouldn't even consider buying most arms packs, as the effects obscure most of the visuals, and well I would buy those packs for the visuals. Some of them look great, but not when there's some dense particle blob hovering around it.

SilverBride

Coatmagic wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

Beating a very dead horse. If you do a search you will see all the past requests for ways to turn down/turn off effects.
It wasn't written into the original code, and afaict, they have no (easy) way to implement it.
Over the years I've tried various things, nothing works.. even turning my screen to grey abolishing all definition, the games flashy effects come through (on top?) bright and clear. It's obnoxious.

I know in WoW you can turn down a lot of flashy effects and they don't have anything nearly as bright as here. It's not even that we just don't like flashy things. It's actually physically painful for many of us.

Marginis

SilverBride wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

I can definitely see an option implemented to tone down effects in settings, so that players with sensitivity to flashing lights can turn them down, especially in low light environments. This is a very important accessibility option, I think, and while PC players have tweaks to achieve something along these lines, console players have no option but to endure (older consoles also can get a lag problem with a lot of flashy effects, for that matter, so an accessibility option would be a double win).

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

Any sort of graphics settings will get you there to some extent. Try looking at what you can change in your game client before launching the game. If absolutely nothing else, go into your graphics card software settings and turn down bloom and other lighting effects. I'd help more, but I don't play ESO on PC regularly enough to remember where stuff is... and PCs can vary so much, any specific advice has limited value.

Now, if you were on console, there I could really help you. On console, I recommend throwing a blanket over your screen. That's about the only fix for this at the moment for us non-PC players.

olsborg

Ive asked for a refund

Coatmagic

Marginis wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

I can definitely see an option implemented to tone down effects in settings, so that players with sensitivity to flashing lights can turn them down, especially in low light environments. This is a very important accessibility option, I think, and while PC players have tweaks to achieve something along these lines, console players have no option but to endure (older consoles also can get a lag problem with a lot of flashy effects, for that matter, so an accessibility option would be a double win).

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

Any sort of graphics settings will get you there to some extent. Try looking at what you can change in your game client before launching the game. If absolutely nothing else, go into your graphics card software settings and turn down bloom and other lighting effects. I'd help more, but I don't play ESO on PC regularly enough to remember where stuff is... and PCs can vary so much, any specific advice has limited value.

Now, if you were on console, there I could really help you. On console, I recommend throwing a blanket over your screen. That's about the only fix for this at the moment for us non-PC players.

Seriously though, I cannot state this enough times or in too many places: Nothing changes the intensity of the the effects.

WiseSky

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I think it looks awesome and it's flashyness is precisely the reason I'm willing to buy this set.

Your average radiant apex mount is way more flashy.

I received it as a gift... and returned it... but then I saw it its flashiness

Will definitely be getting it now

Marginis

Coatmagic wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

I can definitely see an option implemented to tone down effects in settings, so that players with sensitivity to flashing lights can turn them down, especially in low light environments. This is a very important accessibility option, I think, and while PC players have tweaks to achieve something along these lines, console players have no option but to endure (older consoles also can get a lag problem with a lot of flashy effects, for that matter, so an accessibility option would be a double win).

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

Any sort of graphics settings will get you there to some extent. Try looking at what you can change in your game client before launching the game. If absolutely nothing else, go into your graphics card software settings and turn down bloom and other lighting effects. I'd help more, but I don't play ESO on PC regularly enough to remember where stuff is... and PCs can vary so much, any specific advice has limited value.

Now, if you were on console, there I could really help you. On console, I recommend throwing a blanket over your screen. That's about the only fix for this at the moment for us non-PC players.

Seriously though, I cannot state this enough times or in too many places: Nothing changes the intensity of the the effects.

Depending on your skill with a PC, you can probably even turn off effects entirely for ESO.

Unless you were talking about settings with ESO itself, in which case I couldn't tell ya what's there at this point. My PC doesn't even have room to reinstall ESO until I get more drive space.

...Or unless you were talking about the blanket thing, in which case... well, I guess you're technically right, but I still think it solves the issue. Technically.

redspecter23

I think this arms pack highlights a need for players to be able to have more control over the visual effects from others. When we're potentially talking about visually harassing or trolling others and possibly even causing stress or harm to those with acute visual issues, ZOS may need to allow us the means to tone down effects on our end.

If they also include the ability to turn all flappy pets invisible using this same tech, I won't complain.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Marginis wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

I can definitely see an option implemented to tone down effects in settings, so that players with sensitivity to flashing lights can turn them down, especially in low light environments. This is a very important accessibility option, I think, and while PC players have tweaks to achieve something along these lines, console players have no option but to endure (older consoles also can get a lag problem with a lot of flashy effects, for that matter, so an accessibility option would be a double win).

Where are these tweaks on PC because I'd sure like to use them.

Any sort of graphics settings will get you there to some extent. Try looking at what you can change in your game client before launching the game. If absolutely nothing else, go into your graphics card software settings and turn down bloom and other lighting effects. I'd help more, but I don't play ESO on PC regularly enough to remember where stuff is... and PCs can vary so much, any specific advice has limited value.

Now, if you were on console, there I could really help you. On console, I recommend throwing a blanket over your screen. That's about the only fix for this at the moment for us non-PC players.

So this solution you speak of is to turn and tinker everything graphically down...yeah, that's not a solution at all on PC.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

I've now seen people with this style and I dislike it even more. It's giving me and others I know headaches with all the flashing and noises.

Please, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin stop with these kind of effects on things. You're literally causing pain to your players who wants nothing to do with them.

jaws343

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I've now seen people with this style and I dislike it even more. It's giving me and others I know headaches with all the flashing and noises.

Please, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin stop with these kind of effects on things. You're literally causing pain to your players who wants nothing to do with them.

Idk, I wasn't even paying attention to what the style did until reading this thread, haven't seen it in game (or at least not noticed it yet), but after seeing the pictures, I kind of want it now.

I enjoy interesting effects on things.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

jaws343 wrote: »

Idk, I wasn't even paying attention to what the style did until reading this thread, haven't seen it in game (or at least not noticed it yet), but after seeing the pictures, I kind of want it now.

I enjoy interesting effects on things.

interesting and absolute eyesore and/painful does not have to be the same.

perfiction

I have mixed feelings tbh. I can appreciate extra visual and sound effect on weapon draw/swap, it's more 'value' for the same 2500 crowns price. On the other hand the sound effect gets really annoying when using the arms pack in normal rotation (especially when more people in trial group use the pack or you're magcro swapping to frontbar every 2 seconds for blastbones ).

phaneub17_ESO

You have no control over other player's getting in front of your camera swapping it repeatedly, especially if you're stationary like looking in your bags, at a crafting station, or at a banker; you're still seeing the world around you and they will be there flashing in your face. In a PvP ball where you're crowded together like inside a keep where the walls force your camera to zoom in, you could be in a lot of trouble from your own faction who you can't kill to make them stop. It's especially bad if you're light sensitive causing serious pain, I could see this even causing epileptic seizures if multiple players do this, it may not be fast enough with one player but with multiple 3-5 players together it could trigger it easily.

The way I see it, if enough people buy this Arms pack and it becomes a frustrating nuisance to the player base that they start leaving the game because of it, zos will have no other choice than to refund all players who bought the pack and change/update the weapons to remove the initial bursting flash.

Molydeus

This looks awesome 👌 Going to buy it now.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Anyone else notice how the staff rests too high on your back when sheathed? Looks really odd.

meekmiko

The bright flashing and the loud noise when you weapon swap needs to go.

Otherwise the style of the weapons are beautiful and the effects themselves look nice. (Although the black poison cloud, the stuff that looks like the poisons you put on your weapons, needs to get toned down on the staff and shield. The effects on both of them are HUGE compared to the rest of the weapons in the pack.)

spartaxoxo

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As annoying as it is there is one rather big problem

Suddenly changing something people paid for with real money might not go so well with some players.

If it's causing health issues they should do it anyway and offer refunds to those that don't want it.

M0ntie

Just ran a trial with several people with this style and it is absolutely horrible. The noise when people bar swap is very distracting.
For goodness sake at least turn that off during combat and tone down the colour.

100% would have bought this because it looks great, but not buying it and will ask others not to run it in trials/dungeons while it is so intrusive.