Congratulations. ZOS killed all enjoyment out of BGs

DavGlen

I actually enjoyed objective-themed BGs. Tried a few DM games today and it was absolutely disgusting - nothing but premades deathballing through the map and winning in 3 minutes with almost 500-0-0 scores.

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So long, battlegrounds. You will be missed.

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MurderMostFoul

DavGlen wrote: »

I actually enjoyed objective-themed BGs. Tried a few DM games today and it was absolutely disgusting - nothing but premades deathballing through the map and winning in 3 minutes with almost 500-0-0 scores.

[snip]

So long, battlegrounds. You will be missed.

Did you try solo queue?

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jaws343

There are no premades in the solo queue.

DavGlen

It's the same thing. Matches last 5 more minutes in solo queue. The only thing you see is hrothgars, DC, dawnbreaker of smiting, whirling blades. There is just no skill involved anymore, just pressing the same 2 buttons and one-shotting everyone fighting mindlessly in AoE shitstorms until one team eventually wins.

If that's fun for you, I'm glad and I hope you get to have your fun. But that's a big nope for me.

propertyOfUndefined

For the record, death match is the event I excel the most at, but it’s also the least fun for me. Probably won’t be playing as much until the other match types come back…

Bashev

Poor choice from ZoS to remove all the other modes and enable only DM. I guess this was done as it is easier to be programed. The issue is that now players will be mad each other in the forums and the community will be divided.
Why was this late change and so rushed? Maybe because of upcoming new MMO launch soon?

Merforum

DavGlen wrote: »

I actually enjoyed objective-themed BGs. Tried a few DM games today and it was absolutely disgusting - nothing but premades deathballing through the map and winning in 3 minutes with almost 500-0-0 scores.

[snip]

So long, battlegrounds. You will be missed.

I was saying it would take a week for people to realize how garbage BGs with deathmatch only would be but 1 day, that must be a record.

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Kory

Yeah yeah yeah the people that like running around and standing at flags will now complain, while the deathmatch fans will be quiet because they are enjoying guess what? Deathmatch BGs lol

Beardimus

DavGlen wrote: »

I actually enjoyed objective-themed BGs. Tried a few DM games today and it was absolutely disgusting - nothing but premades deathballing through the map and winning in 3 minutes with almost 500-0-0 scores.

[snip]

So long, battlegrounds. You will be missed.

Agreed.
Shocking decision

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DavGlen

Merforum wrote: »

I was saying it would take a week for people to realize how garbage BGs with deathmatch only would be but 1 day, that must be a record.

To be fair I've seen people foreseeing this since it was announced. And it is as bad as I thought it would be.

mmtaniac

Killing is nice but i can get nice score on objective matches too and its always easier than in deathmatch you can farm players while doing objective.

Skoomah

I played 8 matches in a row last night. Had a great time. First time I could truly enjoy BGs in a long while.

Bashev

Skoomah wrote: »

I played 8 matches in a row last night. Had a great time. First time I could truly enjoy BGs in a long while.

Same

Aznox

Skoomah wrote: »

I played 8 matches in a row last night. Had a great time. First time I could truly enjoy BGs in a long while.

Same

moo_2021

Are there more or less players now? I noticed many have low CPs and the average skills on EU have been lowered significantly.

AScarlato

I waited for 20 minutes for solo Q and it didn't pop. Logged out.

This was at 5 p.m. PST - so prime time.

DavGlen

Skoomah wrote: »

I played 8 matches in a row last night. Had a great time. First time I could truly enjoy BGs in a long while.

This is why I think DM players should have their own queue so you guys can enjoy your highly skilled AoE mindless spamfest in peace.

And for the rest of us who actually want to play something that requires at least our monitor to be turned on, to have our own queue with all the objective modes and without DM.

Aznox

I would be fine with :

Deathmatch group queue (even if i'm solo 70% of the time)
Objective solo queue (where i'd never set foot)

DavGlen

Aznox wrote: »

I would be fine with :

Deathmatch group queue (even if i'm solo 70% of the time)
Objective solo queue (where i'd never set foot)

Nope. Stop with the forced solo queue option for objective players.

Or stop with the "forced", period.

If I want to be able to queue for a random objective-based BG on my own, I should be able to.

If I want to grab a friend and queue for a random objective-based BG, we should be able to.

RevJJ

I’ve said it in another thread but this change has a huge effect on below 50BGs. When there were several different modes, new players or those leveling up alts had a chance of winning.

Now all the below 50BGs are a lottery and if one of the other teams is a preformed team of sweaties with gold gear for every ten levels then you lose.

What a way to ruin the fun. Nice one ZOS.

propertyOfUndefined

My daughter occasionally asks me to queue with her so she can get alliance points. Unlike me, she detests pvp, but it’s not a problem in battlegrounds because the chances of getting a Death Match are pretty slim, and she actually enjoys having me help her try to win it for our team strategically.

Oh well… not happening till this experiment is over, I guess…

auz

DavGlen wrote: »

It's the same thing. Matches last 5 more minutes in solo queue. The only thing you see is hrothgars, DC, dawnbreaker of smiting, whirling blades. There is just no skill involved anymore, just pressing the same 2 buttons and one-shotting everyone fighting mindlessly in AoE shitstorms until one team eventually wins.

If that's fun for you, I'm glad and I hope you get to have your fun. But that's a big nope for me.

Sounds like a player problem more than game mode. Could blame the overturned proc meta by zos. Not sure how you can complain about a lack of skill from competitors and being blown up in 2 seconds at the same time. I agree the procs are well overturned and abusing the meta is not hard at the moment. But surely even just surviving and fighting in a death match has got to take more skill than running to the nearest empty flag over and over.

jaws343

RevJJ wrote: »

I’ve said it in another thread but this change has a huge effect on below 50BGs. When there were several different modes, new players or those leveling up alts had a chance of winning.

Now all the below 50BGs are a lottery and if one of the other teams is a preformed team of sweaties with gold gear for every ten levels then you lose.

What a way to ruin the fun. Nice one ZOS.

Run in the solo queue. There are literally zero preformed teams in the solo queue.

DavGlen

auz wrote: »

Sounds like a player problem more than game mode. Could blame the overturned proc meta by zos. Not sure how you can complain about a lack of skill from competitors and being blown up in 2 seconds at the same time. I agree the procs are well overturned and abusing the meta is not hard at the moment. But surely even just surviving and fighting in a death match has got to take more skill than running to the nearest empty flag over and over.

It does not.

RevJJ

jaws343 wrote: »

RevJJ wrote: »

I’ve said it in another thread but this change has a huge effect on below 50BGs. When there were several different modes, new players or those leveling up alts had a chance of winning.

Now all the below 50BGs are a lottery and if one of the other teams is a preformed team of sweaties with gold gear for every ten levels then you lose.

What a way to ruin the fun. Nice one ZOS.

Run in the solo queue. There are literally zero preformed teams in the solo queue.

And also 30+ min waiting times because barely anyone uses the solo queue as it’s not the default option.

auz

DavGlen wrote: »

auz wrote: »

Sounds like a player problem more than game mode. Could blame the overturned proc meta by zos. Not sure how you can complain about a lack of skill from competitors and being blown up in 2 seconds at the same time. I agree the procs are well overturned and abusing the meta is not hard at the moment. But surely even just surviving and fighting in a death match has got to take more skill than running to the nearest empty flag over and over.

It does not.

It does.

Marcus_Aurelius

Played few yesterday, such a big fun, as a melee char i've spent half of my time evading Dark Convergence, as soon I was in range of someone the ground became purple and I had to block or roll away.

Such skillfull and enjoyable gameplay.

Aznox

DavGlen wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

I would be fine with :

Deathmatch group queue (even if i'm solo 70% of the time)
Objective solo queue (where i'd never set foot)

Nope. Stop with the forced solo queue option for objective players.

Or stop with the "forced", period.

If I want to be able to queue for a random objective-based BG on my own, I should be able to.

If I want to grab a friend and queue for a random objective-based BG, we should be able to.

If you want to split "your" player-base, sure, have 2 objectives queues.

I know i'd prefer "my" deathmatches with a single queue and shorter queue time.

DavGlen

auz wrote: »

It does.

It really doesn't.

jaws343

RevJJ wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

RevJJ wrote: »

I’ve said it in another thread but this change has a huge effect on below 50BGs. When there were several different modes, new players or those leveling up alts had a chance of winning.

Now all the below 50BGs are a lottery and if one of the other teams is a preformed team of sweaties with gold gear for every ten levels then you lose.

What a way to ruin the fun. Nice one ZOS.

Run in the solo queue. There are literally zero preformed teams in the solo queue.

And also 30+ min waiting times because barely anyone uses the solo queue as it’s not the default option.

The solo queue pops for me within 5 minutes every single time I run BGs.

Malprave

Enjoying death match again! But I hope people that want to play objective get their own queue back. I don’t see what was wrong with it before. DM or Objective players aren’t going to play game types they don’t like, they’ll just quit. When I found I couldn’t queue for DM I just stopped playing battlegrounds. I think what we have here are two low population groups that just don’t want to be forcibly merged even if it means getting a game faster.