The Dwemer will OFFICIALLY NEVER be explored

spartaxoxo

Officially confirmed. Along with other insights in game informer.

https://items.jellyneo.net/assets/imgs/items/583.gif?946

Edit

Ignore the omelet eh heh...sorry about that here's the real link

https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/05/21/elder-scrolls-online-creative-director-reflects-back-on-rough-launch-we-didnt-have-an

phaneub17_ESO

404 not found. But Rich Lambert does talk about it in this interview:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7250709

RedMuse

Good. Imo they're a mystery that should forever remain one. It would make the world less if ww knew what happened to them.

OutLaw_Nynx

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Officially confirmed. Along with other insights in game informer.

https://items.jellyneo.net/assets/imgs/items/583.gif?946

Why are you linking neopets stuff 🤣

spartaxoxo

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Officially confirmed. Along with other insights in game informer.

https://items.jellyneo.net/assets/imgs/items/583.gif?946

Why are you linking neopets stuff 🤣

I meant to link game informer....I was wondering why nobody was commenting on the article!😳😅


https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/05/21/elder-scrolls-online-creative-director-reflects-back-on-rough-launch-we-didnt-have-an

Mitrenga

Great to hear. I believe they need to develop the Dwemer lore further internally. Perhaps a stand-alone game would be more fitting.

Brrrofski

Forget the dwemer, Neopets is still a thing???

I remember my sister used to obsessed with that like 20 years ago

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Good that and akavir should remain a mystery forever, thats what make them interesting

spartaxoxo

Brrrofski wrote: »

Forget the dwemer, Neopets is still a thing???

I remember my sister used to obsessed with that like 20 years ago

I have no idea. Me and a friend were discussing it on discord and I asked her if she remembered those omelets and if she ever actually ate one. She had not, I have. I copied and pasted the link then thought I had copied and pasted the new link here but guess not.

Anyway, I don't want to forget about the Dwemer. This is like the perfect setting to have a little glimpse into Dwemer society. It doesn't have to be enough to ruin the mystery. Just a little snippet.

YstradClud

Personally I would like to at least know how they disappeared. I did my degree in Science though so I'm naturally inquisitive.

colossalvoids

Wasn't that obvious without mentioning?

I liked that part the most tbh:

GI: It's honestly amazing to see the collaboration, especially with the line between the gaming community and the devs being smaller than ever before. You've got Discord, Reddit, Twitter; it seems like collaborations with these large communities are almost inevitable.

Seems like journalists have zero idea about how it's all going really lmao.

It terrifies me. It terrifies me to think about losing the pulse of the community and feel like they might think we're not paying attention.

Oh man he's also seems serious 🤦

Jaraal

They told me my ESO Bosmer would be stealthy, just like all the other TES Bosmer. They also told me the sacrifice I chose in the main story would have meaning. And that dragons didn't exist in this time period.


Never say never with these people.

essi2

The Dwemer have more value to the lore of TES as a mystery with multiple possible solutions.

bmnoble

They don't have to explain their disappearance, they can just set a game, centuries or millennia before that event happened, with no hints given about it. Doubt it will happen in ESO though maybe in a single player game when they run low on ideas in the future.

RinaldoGandolphi

You guys do realize the questions involving the Dwemer were answered in Skyrim if you pay attention and do the right quests.

Fallon of Morthal met with the Dwemer and spoke to them during his studies of life extending magic, he tells you this in dialogue. Ironically the Dwemer were key in teaching him how to reverse vampirism as he alludes to learning from them. According to Fallon he alludes that the Dwemer exist in a plane that sits between Mundas and Oblivion, sort of like purgatory where they no longer have physical form.

If you do the College of Winterhold side quest Arniel Endeavor, he creates an experiment close to what Kagrenac done and uses Keening to strike the modified soul gem and he vanished and the LDB learns a new spell to Summon the Shade of Arniel

The Dwemer were obsessed with sound and tonal Magic’s, Arniel shade summon is not a spell, it’s a specific tonal sound. Bethesda was telling us the Dwemer exist in the tonal plane made up of sound, Fallon of Morthal figured out the exact tonal sound needed to open up channels to talk to them or summon their shades considering his skill in conjuring this makes sense.

The Dwemer exist now only as sounds with no physical body, however since their consciousness still exists they could return in future titles....of course I don’t think this will be any time soon mind you.

Iccotak

RedMuse wrote: »

Good. Imo they're a mystery that should forever remain one. It would make the world less if ww knew what happened to them.

Hard Agree - somethings are better left as mysteries

tenryuta

sheo could always do a fake history mission with us, atleast showing us the dwemer as they were, and nothing concrete historically

M_Volsung

Speaking as someone who goes absolutely goofy for anything Dwemer, I'm more than ok with this.

jssriot

Morrowind lovers: "The best thing about Morrowind is how weird and alien so much of this world is and how it never really fully reveals itself to you, only lets you have a glimpse into its strangeness."

Oblivion lovers: "The best thing about Oblivion is how it's so lovely and charming on the surface, then there's this mysterious, looming sense of unseen evil underneath."

Skyrim lovers: "The best thing about Skyrim is there's a wildness about it that make that world feel ultimately untamable and imbued with mysteries we will never fully grasp."

ESO lovers: "We must have everything explained to us, thoroughly and drily, in excessive detail, until it's all boring."

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

You guys do realize the questions involving the Dwemer were answered in Skyrim if you pay attention and do the right quests.

There are fan theories that interpret it this way, yes. Is it solidly the canonic lore? Not quite. But I guess for people who don't like feeling like they don't really know, it's good enough.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Well I suppose they'd want to keep that sort of information for future releases. If they put it in an MMO it may spoil the surprise in a solo rpg where the immersion would be no doubt better.

Olauron

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Fallon of Morthal met with the Dwemer and spoke to them during his studies of life extending magic, he tells you this in dialogue. Ironically the Dwemer were key in teaching him how to reverse vampirism as he alludes to learning from them. According to Fallon he alludes that the Dwemer exist in a plane that sits between Mundas and Oblivion, sort of like purgatory where they no longer have physical form.

Falion words to player character questions are the following:
Q: I've heard you're an expert in vampirism.
A: I know many things. I have studied things beyond the reach of most humans, traveled the Oblivion planes, seen things one should not see. I have met Daedra and Dwemer and everything in between and I know enough to see a vampire where others would see a man.

Q: How can you be so sure I'm a vampire?
A: I met several of your kind during my studies of life-extending magics. I even considered becoming a vampire myself. In the end, vampirism would endanger my ward Agni which would defeat the intended purpose.

ThorianB

So they are going to horse and carrot us with the dwemer and use that as like a plot mystery. That's annoying.

PizzaCat82

It'd be great to bring them back. Just like *Pop* and suddenly have them reappear and be a playable race.

Could have tons of story telling involved as well, so who knows.

JobooAGS

Jaraal wrote: »

They told me my ESO Bosmer would be stealthy, just like all the other TES Bosmer. They also told me the sacrifice I chose in the main story would have meaning. And that dragons didn't exist in this time period.


Never say never with these people.

The bosmer thing I agree with you, but I guess Dragon breaks don’t exist and neither does Paarthurnax or Nafaalilargus.

Iluvrien

A world without mystery is a very dull world indeed.

That’s about the only part of the interview I agreed with.

Kadraeus

RedMuse wrote: »

Good. Imo they're a mystery that should forever remain one. It would make the world less if ww knew what happened to them.

Disagree. Learning what actually happened to them would be cool on its own. It has been a mystery for every game, and while that is cool, there's a point where I kinda just want to know. Part of the fun of mysteries is learning the truth. If there are no new hints regarding what might have happened to them, then what's the point of the mystery anymore? Besides, the writers can always just make new mysteries. Crazy things have happened so long ago in the lore, and more crazy things will continue to happen in the future of the lore.

Even then, I'm not saying we absolutely need to know what happened to them. Tbh I really just want a game or something set in a time when they were still around. That alone would be a very unique setting.

Chips_Ahoy

this part made me laugh:

RL: It terrifies me. It terrifies me to think about losing the pulse of the community and feel like they might think we're not paying attention.

Sooner or later that will be explored in the franchise.

in TESO they already ran out of ideas, recycled dungeons, recycled mechanics, the same enemies with different skin, in the end it is a business, and the Dwemer thing is good business.

spartaxoxo

Guys, you do know there's a middle ground between "never show you anything at all" and "explain everything in extreme and excessive detail"

We could have a time travel where we got a hint of the decision making that lead to this decision. We could overhear behind a closed door if they don't want to show them.

We could meet a stranded Dwemer settlement, like we already met a sole Dwemer in Morrowind. They could be stranded far away from their ruins or homes, due to magickal interference. Thus you learn a little about Dwemer without giving away too much about their culture or all their tools.

Etc.

They can explore what happened with the Dwemer a little more without giving away all of the mystery.

RedMuse

Kadraeus wrote: »

RedMuse wrote: »

Good. Imo they're a mystery that should forever remain one. It would make the world less if ww knew what happened to them.

Disagree. Learning what actually happened to them would be cool on its own. It has been a mystery for every game, and while that is cool, there's a point where I kinda just want to know. Part of the fun of mysteries is learning the truth. If there are no new hints regarding what might have happened to them, then what's the point of the mystery anymore? Besides, the writers can always just make new mysteries. Crazy things have happened so long ago in the lore, and more crazy things will continue to happen in the future of the lore.

Even then, I'm not saying we absolutely need to know what happened to them. Tbh I really just want a game or something set in a time when they were still around. That alone would be a very unique setting.

No, a world with no mysteries in it is dull, flat and utterly unbelievable. Part of the fun of mysteries is well, the mystery. It's that we don't know. The moment the answers is know it becomes meaningless and boring. How often do you reread a mystery novel for the plot? My guess is next to never, because the mystery is no solved. You know what happened. There's no point.

LettuceBrain

Why do people want to know what happens? In games that literally take place after ESO it is a mystery so it would make sense for it not to be revealed yet. If anything it would be revealed in the next singleplayer TES game or something.

Chaos2088

I do doubt we will find out what happened to the dwemer in eso, but we might travel back in time (insert quest in greymoor) to see them in a past setting.

The answer of what happened to them will
Most probs be answered in the single player games.