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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
Has population been reduced again?
relentless_turnip
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Performance has been much better initially for this patch, but the cracks are beginning to show a bit...
All that said it was pop locked tonight on pc EU ravenwatch and yet it was dead. There weren't many fights going on at all.
Thoughts?
All that said it was pop locked tonight on pc EU ravenwatch and yet it was dead. There weren't many fights going on at all.
Thoughts?
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Tigor✭✭✭@relentless_turnip sharing my experiences from yesterday
Double AP is gone, and ball groups are back, and that was leading to players leaving the group early. They don't want to fight that. Pure harassment, and stressfull.
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✭✭✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »
First 2-3 days after patch was good, but then the ballgroups came back and since then performance has gone down the drain once again.
Wonder how long ZOS will ignore the elephant in the room regarding Cyrodiil and it's performance7 -
Jayserix✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »
First 2-3 days after patch was good, but then the ballgroups came back and since then performance has gone down the drain once again.
Wonder how long ZOS will ignore the elephant in the room regarding Cyrodiil and it's performance
At this point we have a whole menagerie in the room, a Jumanji type of thing ... The longer you want to tackle a problem, the more difficult it's to solve it.
Speaking of that I have irl stuff to take care of
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✭Yes - there were not much fights yesterday.
But really interesting, because we play in the same campaign, my performance (and other in alliance chat statet the same) was terrible yesterday and not significant better the other days then pre patch in my opinion.Edited by Zabagad on 12 March 2021 12:17PC EU (noCP AD) Grey/Grau AD
Please raise the population caps.
@ZOS - Convert the heal on "Hardened Ward" into a HoT pls.0 -
Aerenthir✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »Performance has been much better initially for this patch, but the cracks are beginning to show a bit...
All that said it was pop locked tonight on pc EU ravenwatch and yet it was dead. There weren't many fights going on at all.
Thoughts?
Well I think people are giving up. Some of the hardcore PvP'ers go into Cyrodiil by habit, but just stand at the Gates because they don't feel like playing this poor excuse of PvP mode.2 -
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✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »Performance has been much better initially for this patch, but the cracks are beginning to show a bit...
All that said it was pop locked tonight on pc EU ravenwatch and yet it was dead. There weren't many fights going on at all.
Thoughts?
Well I think people are giving up. Some of the hardcore PvP'ers go into Cyrodiil by habit, but just stand at the Gates because they don't feel like playing this poor excuse of PvP mode.
It is getting a bit boring not being able to change your build I agree. The campaign UI displays a pop locked campaign, but there are no players around.0 -
TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »Performance has been much better initially for this patch, but the cracks are beginning to show a bit...
All that said it was pop locked tonight on pc EU ravenwatch and yet it was dead. There weren't many fights going on at all.
Thoughts?
I noticed that the populations were capped with noticeably fewer people in game the very first day of the test. I 100% believe they lowered the pop caps for cyro when they implemented the now permanent until further notice "test".
I don't think the test was a performance test at all, but rather a test to see if people would still play, in what numbers, and if the server would still hold up with reduced capacity.2 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »
First 2-3 days after patch was good, but then the ballgroups came back and since then performance has gone down the drain once again.
Wonder how long ZOS will ignore the elephant in the room regarding Cyrodiil and it's performance
Fixing proc sets doesn't fix lag or faction stacking. But so many people loved the no procs, so here we are. We dug our own grave.Edited by AuraNebula on 12 March 2021 16:061 -
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✭✭✭I wonder if the reduced time to kill during this patch helps the performance to be honest. Would make sense for the server to lag less when fights aren't endless anymore.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
Seenoevil✭✭✭They intend for cyrodiil to be mass warfare..the entire premise of pvp is to siege a opposing castles..you take away mass numbers (which you need) and the core of pvp is gone, to stop the lag is to stop the ball groups...these
A..Debuff groups ( I have a post on this in alliance and warfare)
B Redesign cyrodil completely,
C Take the pve aspect out of imperial city, and use imperial city for small scale fights...would be cool if when your faction owns the flag the world boss for that zone becomes friendly and be "summoned " in a special way to help defend the flag(redesigned as fortified positions)0 -
Crash427✭✭✭✭✭Since the patch every time I've gone into cyro when its "poplocked" I've had no queue. I wonder what we're really down to, 60 per faction?
So much for the large scale pvp with 1800 players they promised.Edited by Crash427 on 12 March 2021 19:566 -
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✭✭✭✭✭When years ago people wrote that ball groups are the main cause of lag they were bashed, now we see it's true but it's to late, to many layers added over the years. Even 12v12v12 will lag because of exponential calculations flooding the server, and this sits in the very core of the game that's why fixing it is impossible, redesigning it would require to rewrite whole combat system from the scratch. Their tests are bandaids that can't work because of the cracked fundamentals. The end of Cyrodiil and open world PvP in ESO is near.Edited by Mayrael on 13 March 2021 10:28Say no to Toxic Casuals!
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Thraben✭✭✭✭✭Yesterday there was a huge banana zerg with the Hammer at Glade/ Ales on Ravenwatch EU. I did not have the impression that the pop cap has been lowered again - it's just bugged sometimes.Edited by Thraben on 13 March 2021 13:12Hauptmann der Dolche des Königs
DDK ist die letzte Verteidigungslinie des Dolchsturz- Bündnisses auf der 30-Tage-No-CP- Kampagne(EU) mit dem Anspruch, in kleinen, anfängerfreundlichen Raid-Gruppen möglichst epische Schlachten auszufechten.
DDK is the Daggerfall Covenant´s last line of defense on the 30 days no-cp campaign (EU). We intend to fight epic battles in small, casual player friendly raid groups.0 -
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✭✭✭Yesterday there was a huge banana zerg with the Hammer at Glade/ Ales on Ravenwatch EU. I did not have the impression that the pop cap has been lowered again - it's just bugged sometimes.
I was playing yesterday too and yeah I have a similar pov. It's pretty hard to tell tbh. Cyrodill is definetly less popular ATM. Pop lock seems to end earlier and earlier...0 -
UntouchableHunter✭✭✭✭Blackreach is really boring now. Last campaign was amazing we fought until the last minute to win the campaign, one of the best campaigns ever.
Now is empty and we are winning for to much points. So empty boring.Edited by UntouchableHunter on 13 March 2021 13:250 -
Guizan✭✭✭UntouchableHunter wrote: »Blackreach is really boring now. Last campaign was amazing we fought until the last minute to win the campaign, one of the best campaigns ever.
Now is empty and we are winning for to much points. So empty boring.
I agree that it is more fun in Blackreach when the score is more even as it is now with a week until campaign ends I understand if motivation to log in is less on the two lower point factions.
We should remember that this campaign is in a very special position
First we recently had midyear mayhem with lots of people not normaly doing PVP
Then we start a new campaign and after a while we have the double AP test and people go in to farm AP, then the test became the new normal until a future patch months in the future and AP is returned to normal
The top players in the campaign has multi-million AP score and that keep the ones away who want a shot at Emp but are 7+ million AP behind and now only getting normal AP...
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