Any news on PS4 Greymoor preorder?

DragonRacer

Hallothiel wrote: »

So, is this thread just pure speculation and rumour, or does anyone have any actual real information?

Not stuff that they ‘heard’ from a vague source?

Nobody has any real info. I signed up to “be notified” when we can preorder, from that ZOS blog post or whatever it was, and no email updates thus far.

IVoo

I also signed up to be notified. This is a very strange situation, but the icy silence from both Sony and Zenimax suggests that things between the two companies is coming up roses at the moment.

IVoo

xbobx15 wrote: »

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

They think a notification button is the solution here so they aren't going to come out and give us updates. Which is ridiculous position to take.

Unfortunately, we do not have an update at this time. We will let players know when Greymoor becomes available or when we have more information to share.

question i have to ask. Are they not allowing preorder because of the state of the game on the ps4 - as in its broken - and they don't want the responsibility of having a broken product on their store if Zos can't fix it? (i guess we will see today)

If you can't fix the issue being as this will be the 4th or 5th shot at it, are you going to look at account transfers for people that may wish to move to a stable platform?

That seems as plausible to me as anything.

Hotdog_23

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

I've heard that Sony got so many crash reports in the last three months that they're not letting the next chapter into the store. 🤷‍♀

Sure, might as well believe this since it sounds quite possible and the absent of any information from ZOS on it..

Nord_Raseri

xbobx15 wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Dlc is eso in store has nothing to do with Sony. The chapter does

The chapter has as much to do with ESO/Sony as the DLCs do. The only difference is the content being listed on the PS Store. If Sony was unhappy with the state of the game and its impact on the consoles. Theyd jam up the DLC, not just the Chapter. Any new update ZOS wants to provide for Playstations version of ESO has to still go through Sony and its verification process to make it onto the platform. This includes DLCs.

The Chapter would likely be the last option if Sony was trying to force ZOS to clean up the game by jamming up content. The reason for this is because it will cost Sony potential revenue by denying PS players accessibility to the pre-purchase (which they likely get a cut of). If Sony wanted to force ZOS to do something it be much easier to jam up the DLC that they are going to eventually get paid for anyway. Especially since it would cost ZOS much more money in the long run and not have much of an impact on Sony.

you can't buy the dlc on the sony store, its only in game. They cant affect it

But the updates for all dlcs on ps4 still have to be downloaded through sony.

Nomadic_Atmoran

xbobx15 wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Dlc is eso in store has nothing to do with Sony. The chapter does

The chapter has as much to do with ESO/Sony as the DLCs do. The only difference is the content being listed on the PS Store. If Sony was unhappy with the state of the game and its impact on the consoles. Theyd jam up the DLC, not just the Chapter. Any new update ZOS wants to provide for Playstations version of ESO has to still go through Sony and its verification process to make it onto the platform. This includes DLCs.

The Chapter would likely be the last option if Sony was trying to force ZOS to clean up the game by jamming up content. The reason for this is because it will cost Sony potential revenue by denying PS players accessibility to the pre-purchase (which they likely get a cut of). If Sony wanted to force ZOS to do something it be much easier to jam up the DLC that they are going to eventually get paid for anyway. Especially since it would cost ZOS much more money in the long run and not have much of an impact on Sony.

you can't buy the dlc on the sony store, its only in game. They cant affect it

I just said you cant buy the DLC from the PS Store. [Snip]. And they most definitely can affect DLC when ZOS is required to put any updates through a verification process. DLCs like this Dungeon Pack would be where Sony began if they wanted ZOS to fix things. Or they would flat out deny any updates until things got fixed. They would not start with a pre-purchase that they get a cut of.

[Edited for rude comment]

IwakuraLain42

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Dlc is eso in store has nothing to do with Sony. The chapter does

The chapter has as much to do with ESO/Sony as the DLCs do. The only difference is the content being listed on the PS Store. If Sony was unhappy with the state of the game and its impact on the consoles. Theyd jam up the DLC, not just the Chapter. Any new update ZOS wants to provide for Playstations version of ESO has to still go through Sony and its verification process to make it onto the platform. This includes DLCs.

The Chapter would likely be the last option if Sony was trying to force ZOS to clean up the game by jamming up content. The reason for this is because it will cost Sony potential revenue by denying PS players accessibility to the pre-purchase (which they likely get a cut of). If Sony wanted to force ZOS to do something it be much easier to jam up the DLC that they are going to eventually get paid for anyway. Especially since it would cost ZOS much more money in the long run and not have much of an impact on Sony.

you can't buy the dlc on the sony store, its only in game. They cant affect it

I just said you cant buy the DLC from the PS Store. [Snip]. And they most definitely can affect DLC when ZOS is required to put any updates through a verification process. DLCs like this Dungeon Pack would be where Sony began if they wanted ZOS to fix things. Or they would flat out deny any updates until things got fixed. They would not start with a pre-purchase that they get a cut of.
[Edited for rude comment]

I'm pretty sure that the regular updates (regardless of the content) are handled through a contract between Sony and ZOS that Sony can't wiggle out so easily (Zenimax Online can be very ligitous). But each Chapter is (effectively) a new game that ZOS probably has to make a deal with Sony to get it into the PS4 store. That is quite a bit of leverage.

TheFM

SpiderKnight wrote: »

Tuesdays are usual Playstation store weekly update, was expecting it to drop today in there but it is still unavailable. Did we get any new info on when it is available?
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Considering how busted the game is on consoles atm, they should probably hold out on even allowing pre orders.

DragonRacer

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

Dlc is eso in store has nothing to do with Sony. The chapter does

The chapter has as much to do with ESO/Sony as the DLCs do. The only difference is the content being listed on the PS Store. If Sony was unhappy with the state of the game and its impact on the consoles. Theyd jam up the DLC, not just the Chapter. Any new update ZOS wants to provide for Playstations version of ESO has to still go through Sony and its verification process to make it onto the platform. This includes DLCs.

The Chapter would likely be the last option if Sony was trying to force ZOS to clean up the game by jamming up content. The reason for this is because it will cost Sony potential revenue by denying PS players accessibility to the pre-purchase (which they likely get a cut of). If Sony wanted to force ZOS to do something it be much easier to jam up the DLC that they are going to eventually get paid for anyway. Especially since it would cost ZOS much more money in the long run and not have much of an impact on Sony.

you can't buy the dlc on the sony store, its only in game. They cant affect it

I just said you cant buy the DLC from the PS Store. [Snip]. And they most definitely can affect DLC when ZOS is required to put any updates through a verification process. DLCs like this Dungeon Pack would be where Sony began if they wanted ZOS to fix things. Or they would flat out deny any updates until things got fixed. They would not start with a pre-purchase that they get a cut of.
[Edited for rude comment]

Yes, but hear me out -

The upcoming March 10 DLC update isn't JUST an update to add more content. It's also Update 25, wherein we have to re-download the entire game because of a bunch of things that have supposedly been fixed.

If we're all becoming somewhat sure on the theory that Sony is holding up Greymoor preorders because of the MASSIVE blue screen crash reports being sent in, it seems logical to me that Sony would allow Update 25 to go through since it supposedly fixes things. Their allowing Greymoor to go up in the PlayStation Store for preorder could be contingent on what they see from user activity (i.e. more or less crash reports) post Update 25.

That would be a perfectly logical reason for allowing this "DLC update" while holding up the actual chapter preorder itself.

Hallothiel

If Sony are so worried about the state of this game, then why are they allowing ANY ESO content to be sold in their store anymore?

Also, is there a precedent for this? Have Sony done this with any other games, dlcs or updates?

And the blurb on ESO & Playstation site say it will be available on launch in June. There is even an article about Greymoor on the PS4 blog - why do this if not going to allow it?

DragonRacer

Hallothiel wrote: »

If Sony are so worried about the state of this game, then why are they allowing ANY ESO content to be sold in their store anymore?

Also, is there a precedent for this? Have Sony done this with any other games, dlcs or updates?

And the blurb on ESO & Playstation site say it will be available on launch in June. There is even an article about Greymoor on the PS4 blog - why do this if not going to allow it?

Hmm, didn't see those, so I guess that would shoot the current theory down.

Still just really weird there is no PS4 pre-order (with the normal pre-order goodies) available like there has been for literally every other chapter release. Would be interesting to know why, rather than let people start concocting wild and negative theories. Would also be good to actually, y'know, send out that email notification that some of us signed up for on updates on when Greymoor would be available for pre-order, as we were all encouraged to do so we'd stay informed, rather than hope we stumble onto a Sony blog.

Why the ZOS silence?

(Also, I don't recall this happening for any other games, but I also don't really follow any other games as closely as I do ESO right now, so I can't say if there was ever a past precedent for all this.)

SpiderKnight

vivisectvib16_ESO

What is going on with this? How about some communication @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_AntonioP Anyone?

IVoo

Hallothiel wrote: »

If Sony are so worried about the state of this game, then why are they allowing ANY ESO content to be sold in their store anymore?

Also, is there a precedent for this? Have Sony done this with any other games, dlcs or updates?

And the blurb on ESO & Playstation site say it will be available on launch in June. There is even an article about Greymoor on the PS4 blog - why do this if not going to allow it?

I don't think there is a precedent for this, not that I can recall at any rate. Especially with the game still active and be played by so many.

Very weird.

IVoo

vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »

What is going on with this? How about some communication @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_AntonioP Anyone?

Doubtful there's any answer forthcoming.

iamkeebler

It’s really disappointing as a PS4 player how little communication about the inability to preorder this and they whys behind it. I’d like some reassurance that we will be able to even get the new dlc let alone the collector bundles and the preorder item.

JerzeeDevil

We need a Kermit sipping tea meme in this thread...

IVoo

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

We need a Kermit sipping tea meme in this thread...

That would definitely work!