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Fang Lair motif- why on EARTH would you do this?
SidraWillowsky
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These ruin the look
These stupid hip flaps are on SO many motifs, and they're hideous. I know there was a thread on this a few weeks ago, but the FL motif is particularly egregious with the inclusion of these... things. They don't match the style... WHY are they there?!
These stupid hip flaps are on SO many motifs, and they're hideous. I know there was a thread on this a few weeks ago, but the FL motif is particularly egregious with the inclusion of these... things. They don't match the style... WHY are they there?!
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Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭You're so a year late on this, but still relevant I guess. People have hated the FL motif for quite a while, but for some reason the Chest motif can still fetch you like 100k gold.2 -
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✭✭✭✭I made a thread about that when Fang Lair first came out and almost nobody agreed with me! Who runs around with books hanging off their hips??PC/NA/EP ✌️5 -
Contaminate✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mages carry tomes
Necromantic mages probably carry some really edgy tomes
These are the least annoying “hip flaps” I’ve seen yet, second only to no hip flaps26 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »I made a thread about that when Fang Lair first came out and almost nobody agreed with me! Who runs around with books hanging off their hips??
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✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »You're so a year late on this, but still relevant I guess. People have hated the FL motif for quite a while, but for some reason the Chest motif can still fetch you like 100k gold.
Yeah, I hadn't started playing the game yet when this came out, nor had I paid this motif much attention until I saw it and wanted it for my magplar. I didn't do enough research apparently, since I didn't realize that the stupid things were there til after I'd purchased it. She still uses the chest, but the book things make me roll my eyes.Hippie4927 wrote: »I made a thread about that when Fang Lair first came out and almost nobody agreed with me! Who runs around with books hanging off their hips??
And how is it relevant to FANG LAIR?!
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✭SidraWillowsky wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »You're so a year late on this, but still relevant I guess. People have hated the FL motif for quite a while, but for some reason the Chest motif can still fetch you like 100k gold.
Yeah, I hadn't started playing the game yet when this came out, nor had I paid this motif much attention until I saw it and wanted it for my magplar. I didn't do enough research apparently, since I didn't realize that the stupid things were there til after I'd purchased it. She still uses the chest, but the book things make me roll my eyes.Hippie4927 wrote: »I made a thread about that when Fang Lair first came out and almost nobody agreed with me! Who runs around with books hanging off their hips??
And how is it relevant to FANG LAIR?!
Total speculation, but Caluurion and Orryn the Black (bosses from that dungeon) were a lich and necromancer, so obviously they used spells and had some arcane knowledge. Potentially why they have scroll pouches on the side...but who really knows.Edited by Donny_Vito on 11 December 2019 20:244 -
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✭✭✭✭✭They're satchel bags and arcane texts. How do they not go with the lore of the style? At least they're a lot better than just random hunks of metal.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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Olauron✭✭✭✭✭
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Disagree. I like those books and scroll satchels. I use this motif on one of my characters because having books fits the character theme.SidraWillowsky wrote: »These stupid hip flaps are on SO many motifs, and they're hideous. I know there was a thread on this a few weeks ago, but the FL motif is particularly egregious with the inclusion of these... things. They don't match the style... WHY are they there?!
There are a lot of motifs without books. Use those if you don't like this one.Edited by Olauron on 11 December 2019 20:54The Three Storm Sharks, episode 8 released on january the 8th.
One mer to rule them all,
one mer to find them,
One mer to bring them all
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✭✭✭I love those! So much better than normal tassets. I too would like more motifs with no tassets at all, but at least these look like I'm carying useful things.7 -
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✭I do not mind, the little bags or pouches. The random flaps are bad though.
These are fine.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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✭It's alright if you ask me. Better than the "real" armor on many or most of other motifs. What I dislike most however, are the "a**flaps" on like almost literally every motif. I want thigh diamonds!
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✭✭✭✭✭It doesn’t seem a convenient place to have books / large pouches while adventuring and fighting. At that’s what I think when I look at it — that it would be terribly uncomfortable and get in the way of one’s arms, besides ruining the aesthetic. I know it’s a fantasy game in no way bound by physics / realism (not meaning that as derogatory) but things should look practical or attractive or both, in my opinion. It would be nice if various hip flap / tasset options were tied to belts perhaps, including plenty of options for NOT having any, especially on light armor. There are some styles where I think they work very well but I don’t think they ever look right on light armor styles.Edited by Araneae6537 on 11 December 2019 21:242 -
Smol_BatSoul Shriveni juste want the option to remove the flaps from all motifs tbh, it ruins a lot of the fashion options for me.3
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✭✭Forget what people say. The flaps/books look like crap and ruin the motif. I bought the book with CROWNS and the chest is crap. 😒0 -
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It is practical. With light armor Fang Lair chest you have books and drinking horns right at the reach of your hand.Araneae6537 wrote: »I know it’s a fantasy game in no way bound by physics / realism (not meaning that as derogatory) but things should look practical or attractive or both, in my opinion.The Three Storm Sharks, episode 8 released on january the 8th.
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mayasunrising✭✭✭✭✭I play a sorc and love the FL style and think that at least the hip satchels and tomes make sense - unlike other light styles where for some reason I have these big blobs of whatever on my hips."And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ♥ Anaïs Nin
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind the idea of books there, but the case is too thick.
The PvP reward box version of this motif with the poisons/potions is much better (slimmer).
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✭SidraWillowsky wrote: »These ruin the look
These stupid hip flaps are on SO many motifs, and they're hideous. I know there was a thread on this a few weeks ago, but the FL motif is particularly egregious with the inclusion of these... things. They don't match the style... WHY are they there?!
I think they make the style, they are an excellent addition and one of the reasons I use the style when I do.2 -
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✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »You're so a year late on this, but still relevant I guess. People have hated the FL motif for quite a while, but for some reason the Chest motif can still fetch you like 100k gold.
"some reason"
I hate to be crude, but let's face it. People want the chest because maximum skin.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!2 -
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