Transparency effects on skills: shuffle+elude, hurricane+lightning form, dragon blood

JusticeSouldier

Does anyone like it and feel these visual effect usefull and healthy for gameplay?
What do u think about to remove it from them?

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@ZOS_BrianWheeler here screens to show how interact between themselves:
Shuffle and Hurricane/Dragon Blood/ Cloak.

Shuffle become even more must to use. Make it please to be drawn relevant.
And it doesn't fit to it's function anymore for a years - AOE mitigation is not Invisibility.
Even when it was providing Dodge chance, this transparency was too intensive.


(And Dark cloak is not invisibility to feel each time like u attempt to dissapear without success, like a chicken trying to drop the egg at the ground)

I like this heart, but not whole body invisibility.

...what information u get here ZOS?

As we see, these skills together are visual trash.
I personally hate how characters look with all these skills active...

JusticeSouldier

My personal - i don't like how this work with another effects - u can't see a lot of buffs and debuffs on yourself (like, on nightblade, when u used Shuffle - visual effect within Cloak almost the same as without), u loose important visual fight information from another side also, it looks bad design for me.
* With Major Evasion mechanics change - Shuffle and Elude lost their basements for this visual effect...And that base wasn't enouch convenient to be honest even in the past - too big transparency for 15 or 20% of chance to avoid the damage. Nowadays it have no any reason to create such effect.
* Hurricane - Wind around u is more than enouch to understand it's used. Great skill. What's for transparency here? Maybe it's time to remove opacity effect from Hurricane?
* Lightning form...please, do it just same as Hurricane. more visible aoe around, mayeb lightning on the body and no transparency.
* Dragon blood - it's enouch to make transparent only chest of character to show that heart inside. Whole body - why?

Girl_Number8

I think they are fine.

Lightning form you are a living sparkler and with hurricane I don't have a problem seeing the players at all or hearing them.

Dragon blood that beating heart is so bright, never been an issue. Also, Stamdks after some kiting if that is their thing are known as skillful brawlers.

Shuffle has that misty outline and plus the players fraction color is right above their head, as every player has this

There is one exception only but it was not listed so no reason to discuss it.

Akgurd

I hate them.

All the time and money spent on character design, costume, outfits, and coloring all goes crap once I hit these skills. I wish these effects were provided with on/off option within setting menu.

Adenoma

Just from an aesthetic standpoint I do sort of wish they were less present. My warden looks really cool and a lot less so once he uses ice fortress.

Grimlok_S

Adenoma wrote: »

Just from an aesthetic standpoint I do sort of wish they were less present. My warden looks really cool and a lot less so once he uses ice fortress.

Build em thicc and you can hide most of the ice fortress inside your character model.

Tough luck for Elsa RPers.

Mojmir

dont like them and still dont like the "blocking animation".

Adenoma

@Grimlok_S , if I could get thiccer I would.

JusticeSouldier

Adenoma wrote: »

Just from an aesthetic standpoint I do sort of wish they were less present. My warden looks really cool and a lot less so once he uses ice fortress.

yeah, this also, when they active - your character look and outfit becomes useless virtual trash.
like it was when Bounded Armor replaced your gear with itself, it was pretty ugly/

TheYKcid

I wish Boundless Storm didn't turn me into a neon blue ghost. I put a lot of work into my outfit but it gets masked with almost 100% uptime.

The sparks of electricity, faint blue halo and storm clouds around your feet are already pretty good visual indicators and look very natural imo. The transparency is pretty redundant and just looks cheap and tacky.

Ragnarock41

Don't like them.

Ragnarock41

Girl_Number8 wrote: »

I think they are fine.

Lightning form you are a living sparkler and with hurricane I don't have a problem seeing the players at all or hearing them.

Dragon blood that beating heart is so bright, never been an issue. Also, Stamdks after some kiting if that is their thing are known as skillful brawlers.

Shuffle has that misty outline and plus the players fraction color is right above their head, as every player has this

There is one exception only but it was not listed so no reason to discuss it.

Except stamDKs don't actually slot dragon blood, Its the magicka and tanks that do, please learn the difference.

Fur_like_snow

Aesthetics are very important to me. My stam sorc looks AWESOME when shuffle and crit surge are both active. I’d hate to see the visual removed for any reason.

Aedrion

Nope, don't like them. Not required and they take away our cool costumes.

BRODY

I hate it. I play with min settings and hurricane very complicates the vision of character animation. ZoS not was think about it.
 

Na0cho

Ya man. I get it. Gotta look pretty while pvping right?

Gives you that sweet advantage.

Digiman

hate dragonblood... doesn't even look dragon like.

Ragnarock41

Digiman wrote: »

hate dragonblood... doesn't even look dragon like.

I guess I'm glad GDB is not that good of a stam heal lol. It really looks ugly imo.

Girl_Number8

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

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Girl_Number8 wrote: »

I think they are fine.

Lightning form you are a living sparkler and with hurricane I don't have a problem seeing the players at all or hearing them.

Dragon blood that beating heart is so bright, never been an issue. Also, Stamdks after some kiting if that is their thing are known as skillful brawlers.

Shuffle has that misty outline and plus the players fraction color is right above their head, as every player has this

There is one exception only but it was not listed so no reason to discuss it.

Except stamDKs don't actually slot dragon blood, Its the magicka and tanks that do, please learn the difference.

I know the difference just an off day

JusticeSouldier

Na0cho wrote: »

Ya man. I get it. Gotta look pretty while pvping right?

Gives you that sweet advantage.

that sweet advantage calls Quality of live things... like usefull food, it can be delicious also, not only functional

Jierdanit

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Aesthetics are very important to me. My stam sorc looks AWESOME when shuffle and crit surge are both active. I’d hate to see the visual removed for any reason.

Problem is that for me its just the other way around xD
My StamSorc looks awesome until he has to press that mean hurricane/shuffle that makes his whole outfit useless

Ragnarock41

Girl_Number8 wrote: »

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Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Girl_Number8 wrote: »

I think they are fine.

Lightning form you are a living sparkler and with hurricane I don't have a problem seeing the players at all or hearing them.

Dragon blood that beating heart is so bright, never been an issue. Also, Stamdks after some kiting if that is their thing are known as skillful brawlers.

Shuffle has that misty outline and plus the players fraction color is right above their head, as every player has this

There is one exception only but it was not listed so no reason to discuss it.

Except stamDKs don't actually slot dragon blood, Its the magicka and tanks that do, please learn the difference.

I know the difference just an off day

Just wanted to remind

LMar

I like unique looking skills. Please don't take animations away

JusticeSouldier

LMar wrote: »

I like unique looking skills. Please don't take animations away

its not about removing iniquiness, it's about it's improvement with better usability and visual result.

Solariken

I don't like any of them, I'd rather see my character. I especially hate Hurricane when fighting a 2h stamsorc because it's so hard to see the D Swing.

JusticeSouldier

yesterday in hel ra citadel i coudn't see tank because he used dragon blood and was almost invisible an all that aoe around...

Gnortranermara

I really hate them. So much that I actively avoid slotting the skills, even if I want to run it. The transparency conceals other important visual cues, so really not worth it.

Gnozo

Everytime i play my magicka DK and need a burst heal i struggle deep inside me to use dragonblood cause it will completly destroy all the time/Money i spend on my outfit and character.....

Its ugly af and i really wish they would change it. Maybe give it some heat aura around you instead making your whole character transparent. That would be more dragon like....

Vapirko

I thought the shuffle effect used to make sense now though not at all. And I don’t really like having to be half invisible at all. I hate the dragons blood visuals entirely. The annoying thing about shuffle though is that it needs to be up almost 100% of the time.

Merlin13KAGL

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

yesterday in hel ra citadel i coudn't see tank because he used dragon blood and was almost invisible an all that aoe around...

Crown + healthbar...the rest is bonus.

Zenis

I hate hurricane animation and is reason why I main Templar instead of Sorc. Hurricane has huge aoe animation with flying rocks around you so I don't see why it should make you transparent and blue a swell. If it was on spell that is occasionally used I would not mind but in most cases you have that thing on you all the time.