Seige damage

Pain In The Axe

So how does everyone like getting one banged by siege now? I hope this is fixed quickly or pvp will be reduced to people sitting on their walls shooting siege rather than, well you know... Actually going out to fight an enemy! Any devs care to comment? or is pvp going to continue to be something yall dont want to address because of how badly its been cared for

Vapirko

I’d youd bothered to do a quick search of the forums you’d know that there are other threads on this and yes the devs have already acknowledged it and are working on it. #searchbeforeyoupost

Pain In The Axe

we are working on it? Just like how they are working on performance right #emptydevresponses

Lucky28

at least i can cloak it now.... if i'm fast enough, 2 ticks of cold fire for 29K brutal.

Pain In The Axe

Lucky28 wrote: »

at least i can cloak it now.... if i'm fast enough, 2 ticks of cold fire for 29K brutal.

one step forward but then this makes it another two steps back again

barshemm

I'm pretty sure if you can find a way to exploit this in a trial it will get fixed in about 5 minutes

SippingPotions

@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you let us know if this siege damage is intended or not?

frozywozy

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5855594/#Comment_5855594

VaranisArano

barshemm wrote: »

I'm pretty sure if you can find a way to exploit this in a trial it will get fixed in about 5 minutes

I'm guessing you weren't paying attention back when ZOS started getting reports about Asylum Sanctorium exploits. Either the first or the second time...

Still, why is it that every single update seems to break something new in PVP?

Recremen

barshemm wrote: »

I'm pretty sure if you can find a way to exploit this in a trial it will get fixed in about 5 minutes

Yeah, and they'd also ban people for exploiting it.

usmcjdking

This is the greatest bug in the history of game bugs. It has solved far more issues than it created.

TBois

usmcjdking wrote: »

This is the greatest bug in the history of game bugs. It has solved far more issues than it created.

If it does stay at this damage it needs an appropriate increase in ap cost.

usmcjdking

TBois wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

This is the greatest bug in the history of game bugs. It has solved far more issues than it created.

If it does stay at this damage it needs an appropriate increase in ap cost.

I'd so be down for this. You could make it relative to what it used to cost, so about a quadruple price increase.

darkblue5

Mostly highly overpowered but actually is somewhat? balanced? in open fields? The area denial is actually worth anything and isn't just some cosmetic red coloring on the ground. There are interesting fights for positi---
(Killed in 1 second by invisible seige AOE)

Master_Kas

People are clearly used to dancing around in oils and siege while it tickles on their health. Reason why there is alot of crying about it.

IndorilArwynLlethran

Do not stand under oils, roll/jump out of red circles, purge. Learn to fight players, not only doors

mayasunrising

I'm for leaving it. The keep takes/defenses were some of the most exciting, and the tactics beings used to overcome seige some of the most interesting I've seen in Cyro since....like I don't know when. I'm personally also sick of seeing groups just dance about in oils under 30 seige shields. #MakeOurSeigeGreatAgain

@ZOS_GinaBruno please tell the devs not to fix this completely. I'd pay higher AP costs for more effective area denial.

DivineFirstYOLO

mayasunrising wrote: »

I'm for leaving it. The keep takes/defenses were some of the most exciting, and the tactics beings used to overcome seige some of the most interesting I've seen in Cyro since....like I don't know when. I'm personally also sick of seeing groups just dance about in oils under 30 seige shields. #MakeOurSeigeGreatAgain

@ZOS_GinaBruno please tell the devs not to fix this completely. I'd pay higher AP costs for more effective area denial.

Yeah right, they should even buff sieges so noobs can one shot decent players with one click, don't need to outnumber them any more, just put siege and click left mouse button once. Smart, good balance.

ruikkarikun

This must be fixed fast wtf, 28k+ dmg from one hit siege.

JamilaRaj

Absolutely. Decent players are dying at the hands of noobs, because meta has changed and trusty crutches like stacked up weapon/spell damage do not carry them anymore. ZOS help!

VaranisArano

So what we're saying is maybe we shouldn't have complained so much the last time ZOS buffed siege like scattershot?

Ahtu

In my opinion, it's extremely boring gameplay as it's nearly impossible to take a defended keep since people just sit there and shoot siege at each other. I ended up leaving two sieges during a stalemate and it seems like it will take hours to actually take a keep now. I'm not normally a siege person, but I am now reduced to firing siege at people, or else they will do it to us.

Pain In The Axe

This won’t be hotfixed and there won’t be an attempt to fix this until Monday lol.. looks like cryo is going to be screwed for a whole week or longer depending if they successfully patch it or not. I don’t know about you guys but I don’t find sitting on a wall shooting sieges at people an enjoyable pvp experience, id much rather use the skills and sets I worked for to fight people and I believe that’s what true pvp should be primarily be about. Some sieges may have needed a slight buff but this is obviously way to much lol. Also for those that say JuSt MoVe OuT Of ThE ReD.. it’s not always that simple espicaly in a fresh patch that removed a lot of ways to be mobile and the fact most encounters are not just one siege but multiple sieges/oils pouring onto you at one single time while being snared to all hell from an abundance of enemies that pile on you at any given time. Whether you’re being an idiot and standing in the seige or actively trying to avoid it as best as you can you’re going to be hit by it and it shouldn’t be as punishing as it currently stands

Minno

lol this is so far the arguments for/against the seiges:

- solo/small man crews "now you can feel our pain when we got zerged down by 24 light attacks and 15 sieges while fighting against a dedicated purge spammer/healrapidbot in Murkmire"
- opponents of siege changes "ug now I have to worry about siege even though I am in the PVP mode designed for use of siege yet complain even though there are two siegeless PVP modes?!"

Siege is fine. Spent 3 hours last night attacking the side of a zerg repositioning while watching bigger groups thinking they can sit in areas they shouldn't lol.

#adaptcauseitwasplayablelastnight

Elong

Ahtu wrote: »

In my opinion, it's extremely boring gameplay as it's nearly impossible to take a defended keep since people just sit there and shoot siege at each other. I ended up leaving two sieges during a stalemate and it seems like it will take hours to actually take a keep now. I'm not normally a siege person, but I am now reduced to firing siege at people, or else they will do it to us.

Shooting siege at eachother is more action than currently happens when your disgusting faction stack walks into a keep, as you can't use any skills at all, and you don't either other than just stand on the flag to flip them.

Akgurd

WTB ground oils back!

Vincelex

Let me know how it works against AP and if the lag is less. I’ll bet gold that it’ll make them faction stack even more rather than trying to split their raids up as was suggested by everyone not a week ago. But if everyone’s fine with faction stacks now that siege is as strong as they think it should be props to ZOS I guess.

Gankimus

Ahtu wrote: »

In my opinion, it's extremely boring gameplay as it's nearly impossible to take a defended keep since people just sit there and shoot siege at each other. I ended up leaving two sieges during a stalemate and it seems like it will take hours to actually take a keep now. I'm not normally a siege person, but I am now reduced to firing siege at people, or else they will do it to us.

Quite so. In a defensive situation a stalemate is a "win" for the defender. If you are defending, stay and win. If you are attacking... you lost. Go someplace else.

Eirella

Akgurd wrote: »

WTB ground oils back!

Omg yes! xD

Joy_Division

I don't quite get the logic that one-shoting players and wrecking entire groups with a piece of inventory can be considered exciting, compelling, and interesting game-play, yet killing a player too quickly with actual abilities is bad and ruins the game.

Sandman929

Joy_Division wrote: »

I don't quite get the logic that one-shoting players and wrecking entire groups with a piece of inventory can be considered exciting, compelling, and interesting game-play, yet killing a player too quickly with actual abilities is bad and ruins the game.

I don't get that people are saying to "adapt" to something ZOS has said they're going to fix.