validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Can we get some more "Revealing" chest pieces
ESO has some amazing artists, I know you can do us proud!
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.
One of my many characters is modeled after Conan the Destroyer. Last time I checked Conan was half naked killing everything in his way. You know some of us like to see our Male characters flex those pecs.
Everything isn't about wanting to see our female characters half naked you know, wish people would stop with that nonsense, especially since they have zero issue with seeing half naked males.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.
One of my many characters is modeled after Conan the Destroyer. Last time I checked Conan was half naked killing everything in his way. You know some of us like to see our Male characters flex those pecs.
Everything isn't about wanting to see our female characters half naked you know, wish people would stop with that nonsense, especially since they have zero issue with seeing half naked males.
You make a good point, I suppose.
Maybe it's just the fantasy material I grew up with.
Women wore long dresses with sleeves, and if wearing armour, the armour was no different in coverage to male armour.
I suppose I'm okay with styles such as the Minotaur motif. Actually I'm working on getting it because I reckon it'll make a great BG outfit.
What I fear, and what I think a lot of people are asking for, is the examples of "armour" on display in many popular Skyrim mods and Far Eastern MMOs.
Skin can be tasteful, but the line between tasteful and provocative concerns me.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.
One of my many characters is modeled after Conan the Destroyer. Last time I checked Conan was half naked killing everything in his way. You know some of us like to see our Male characters flex those pecs.
Everything isn't about wanting to see our female characters half naked you know, wish people would stop with that nonsense, especially since they have zero issue with seeing half naked males.
You make a good point, I suppose.
Maybe it's just the fantasy material I grew up with.
Women wore long dresses with sleeves, and if wearing armour, the armour was no different in coverage to male armour.
I suppose I'm okay with styles such as the Minotaur motif. Actually I'm working on getting it because I reckon it'll make a great BG outfit.
What I fear, and what I think a lot of people are asking for, is the examples of "armour" on display in many popular Skyrim mods and Far Eastern MMOs.
Skin can be tasteful, but the line between tasteful and provocative concerns me.
I'm basing my opinion on my life experiences as well. I grew up watching He-Man run around in briefs being a bad ass. I watched all of the Conan movies where he was dressed similar. Hercules and damn near every Greek God or Goddess were dressed in less than full armor. Red Sonya was another. Xena princess warrior.
I could go on and on. There are plenty of examples in past media where mighty heroes are not fully armored and kicking ass. Both male and female. It's absurd to pretend otherwise.
Edit- I should clarify that I am not implying that you personally are dismissing those types of images in past fantasy media.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.
One of my many characters is modeled after Conan the Destroyer. Last time I checked Conan was half naked killing everything in his way. You know some of us like to see our Male characters flex those pecs.
Everything isn't about wanting to see our female characters half naked you know, wish people would stop with that nonsense, especially since they have zero issue with seeing half naked males.
You make a good point, I suppose.
Maybe it's just the fantasy material I grew up with.
Women wore long dresses with sleeves, and if wearing armour, the armour was no different in coverage to male armour.
I suppose I'm okay with styles such as the Minotaur motif. Actually I'm working on getting it because I reckon it'll make a great BG outfit.
What I fear, and what I think a lot of people are asking for, is the examples of "armour" on display in many popular Skyrim mods and Far Eastern MMOs.
Skin can be tasteful, but the line between tasteful and provocative concerns me.
I'm basing my opinion on my life experiences as well. I grew up watching He-Man run around in briefs being a bad ass. I watched all of the Conan movies where he was dressed similar. Hercules and damn near every Greek God or Goddess were dressed in less than full armor. Red Sonya was another. Xena princess warrior.
I could go on and on. There are plenty of examples in past media where mighty heroes are not fully armored and kicking ass. Both male and female. It's absurd to pretend otherwise.
Edit- I should clarify that I am not implying that you personally are dismissing those types of images in past fantasy media.
No problem dude.
The fantasy I grew up with was all pretty mature, but also "realistic".
So armour designs were made as such by the artists and costume makers to provide full coverage, regardless of gender. And outside of combat, clothing was also not at all revealing. A leg, at most, for appropriate scenes.
As you can tell I'm fairly conservative in this regard.
ApostateHobo wrote: »I honestly want more that show skin for my male characters. Don't know why people automatically go "NO WE DON'T NEED SLUTTY BIKINI ARMOR REEEEE" when people ask for something that just shows an ankle or knee. There's lots of nice tattoos and stuff in the game yet so few motifs and costumes show them off.
I wrote a whole big rant on this as well.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/474764/on-motifs-and-modesty
don't get me wrong; I love the (mostly) practical armour designs that we have slews and slews of. but when you've got more items that leave the vitals hanging out than items that reveal something as "scandalous" as the knees, calves, or thighs... it makes me wonder if one of the lead designers is a Victorian-era prude or something.
I definitely don't need JRPG/Korean MMO-level stuff in this game, but with all the cool skins and tattoos, it'd be nice to have a few extra options to show a little leg to see what they look like, yeah?
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »I don't really understand the appeal of skimpy armour myself.
If I were to delve into a deep dungeon, filled with giant beasts who want to eat you alive, I'd want to be protected.
At most my character wears no helmet, (read - hide helmet), and might have short sleeves.
That's just me though. My Skyrim adds things to armour, not take away.