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Performance Improved After Midyear Mayhem?

Ahtu
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I'm wondering if anyone has noticed improvement in regards to casting ultimate abilities after the patch that went through during Midyear Mayhem to fix performance isues now that the event has concluded?

Performance Improved After Midyear Mayhem? 76 votes

Yes
26%
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No
73%
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  • RMerlin
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    No
    My performance was actually better during the Event than before. Might be because AP moved to a different campaign.
  • Ruckly
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    I think population cap was lowered. Map seems empty.
  • Vapirko
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    Idk, haven't played enough yet. Although it will be hard to tell since the pops are just generally lower now and what you're feeling could just be the effects of that. Of course everything will work better now that the PvP pop has returned to normal for the most part.
  • zyk
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    You're the problem, Ahtu. Vivec was so much better without AOTP and it's slimy leaders who think it's funny when they break the server.

    I understand it's your dream to "unite the factions". Why don't you go to an empty server and do that?

    This isn't a joke, it's not an insult, it's not salt. *You* are one of the biggest problems PC/NA/Vivec has.
    Edited by zyk on 23 January 2019 04:46
  • SilverPaws
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    No
    Performance was better at midyear mayhem on 7 days campaings, now back to the laggy vivec at prime time.
  • Sandman929
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    No
    Voted "No" with an asterisk. On console it seemed less laggy, obviously, but in-game chat is still completely buggy and inaccessible at times for seemingly no reason.
  • Elong
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    No
    Not one bit and the OP is part of the problem. I've had to move campaigns.
  • Ahtu
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    Yes
    In the last three days in Vivec during prime time, I have had much less performance issues which I believe is thanks to the guild roster, friends list, and group member performance optimizations implemented last week. My ultimate abilities and ground-targeted abilities work the first time I try them with no delays whereas before I had to try a few times for them to work. This in addition to destructible milegates and bridges to spread the zerg out has fixed most if not all problems I was having, so I'm wondering if others were experiencing the same thing that I am.
    Edited by Ahtu on 24 January 2019 19:24
  • TBois
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    The destructible bridges and milecmgates don't seem to spread ppl out and there is still at least one ep guild who still stacks multiple raids on crown knowing full well how the server handles that stress. I believe you are one of the leads. Please split your group up. It will further reduce the lag and you will be able to hit multiple targets at once. You might actually see improvements in the individuals who run with you as they will learn how to work within the 24man grp structure
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  • Elong
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    Ahtu wrote: »
    In the last three days in Vivec during prime time, I have had much less performance issues which I believe is thanks to the guild roster, friends list, and group member performance optimizations implemented last week. My ultimate abilities and ground-targeted abilities work the first time I try them with no delays whereas before I had to try a few times for them to work. This in addition to destructible milegates and bridges to spread the zerg out has fixed most if not all problems I was having, so I'm wondering if others were experiencing the same thing that I am.

    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
  • zyk
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    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.
  • GeneralSezme
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    No
    It's hard to tell with your guild running around
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  • Elong
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    No
    zyk wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.

    Agreed. I've moved campaigns and I would recommend others to do so.
  • pzschrek
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    I noticed it was a lot better during the event hit now it’s in the toilet again.
    Elong wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.

    Agreed. I've moved campaigns and I would recommend others to do so.

    Problem with this is shor is that myself I’ve found shor a nightmare unless you have a partner or two and DC have *** up sotha well and good.

    “The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on.”
  • Derra
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    No
    Performance was better during the event when the groups were spread out across multiple servers because they couldn´t access their main due to 200+ queue.

    But ofc it´s not large groups at fault that the game is lagging :no_mouth:
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  • Crown
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    Elong wrote: »
    Ahtu wrote: »
    In the last three days in Vivec during prime time, I have had much less performance issues which I believe is thanks to the guild roster, friends list, and group member performance optimizations implemented last week. My ultimate abilities and ground-targeted abilities work the first time I try them with no delays whereas before I had to try a few times for them to work. This in addition to destructible milegates and bridges to spread the zerg out has fixed most if not all problems I was having, so I'm wondering if others were experiencing the same thing that I am.

    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.

    That's if the game even lets you get close to that many players. The number of times we had someone desync getting close to a fight was insanely high.

    Desync = When all of a sudden everyone else freezes on the screen, but you can still move around - though your skills won't go off. You can still type in chat until you get booted from the game after about 2 minutes. You then get error messages when trying to get back in for about 8-10 minutes, and pray to the Daedra that you won't be in PvE land when you get back into the game. I like to take these opportunities to try and swim to the centre of the map - as if you're mounted when it desyncs you keep the horse movement speed and slaughter fish won't hurt you.
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  • frozywozy
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    No
    SilverPaws wrote: »
    Performance was better at midyear mayhem on 7 days campaings, now back to the laggy vivec at prime time.

    For me it was the other way around. Vivec was flawless except Saturday night of the last weekend.
    When I went to Shor, I experienced the most terrible lag spikes I have seen in the past year.

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  • frozywozy
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    No
    zyk wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.

    Actually to be fair, AotP doesn't day cap. It's mainly The Dawning and Justice League that play at that time.
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    “Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt
    • Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
    • Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
    • Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
    • Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
    • Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
    • Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
    • Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
    • Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
    • Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
    • Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
    • Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
    • Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
    • Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
    • Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
    • Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
    • Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
    • Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
    • Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
    • Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
    • Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
    • Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
    • Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
    • Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
    • Introduce dynamic population
    • Lower population cap by 20%
    • Add Snare Immunity potions
    • Bring resurrection sickness
    • Fix character desync
    • Fix cc breaking bug
    • Fix gap closer bug
    • Fix health desync
    • Fix combat bug
    • Fix streak bug
    • Fix server lag
  • Zodiac_
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    No
    No improvement, it is just that the servers are not so packed now..........

    Try play at sotha Friday and Saturday peak time and you will see nothing changed :(
  • Elong
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    No
    Crown wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    Ahtu wrote: »
    In the last three days in Vivec during prime time, I have had much less performance issues which I believe is thanks to the guild roster, friends list, and group member performance optimizations implemented last week. My ultimate abilities and ground-targeted abilities work the first time I try them with no delays whereas before I had to try a few times for them to work. This in addition to destructible milegates and bridges to spread the zerg out has fixed most if not all problems I was having, so I'm wondering if others were experiencing the same thing that I am.

    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.

    That's if the game even lets you get close to that many players. The number of times we had someone desync getting close to a fight was insanely high.

    Desync = When all of a sudden everyone else freezes on the screen, but you can still move around - though your skills won't go off. You can still type in chat until you get booted from the game after about 2 minutes. You then get error messages when trying to get back in for about 8-10 minutes, and pray to the Daedra that you won't be in PvE land when you get back into the game. I like to take these opportunities to try and swim to the centre of the map - as if you're mounted when it desyncs you keep the horse movement speed and slaughter fish won't hurt you.

    Yep that's the worst bit about it, riding up to a keep they're stacked in. You have to Walk as slow as possible and pray to Talos.
  • Elong
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    No
    pzschrek wrote: »
    I noticed it was a lot better during the event hit now it’s in the toilet again.
    Elong wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.

    Agreed. I've moved campaigns and I would recommend others to do so.

    Problem with this is shor is that myself I’ve found shor a nightmare unless you have a partner or two and DC have *** up sotha well and good.

    Sotha has been a blast. I was against the idea originally because of not being able to use my CP I had earned over the years, but at this stage I would take performance over anything. The laggiest it gets is a normal Vivec fight. Some fights may not be as challenging as Vivec, but if you can't do anything in lag then what is the point anyway? I'm having fun.
  • pzschrek
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    Elong wrote: »
    pzschrek wrote: »
    I noticed it was a lot better during the event hit now it’s in the toilet again.
    Elong wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.

    Agreed. I've moved campaigns and I would recommend others to do so.

    Problem with this is shor is that myself I’ve found shor a nightmare unless you have a partner or two and DC have *** up sotha well and good.

    Sotha has been a blast. I was against the idea originally because of not being able to use my CP I had earned over the years, but at this stage I would take performance over anything. The laggiest it gets is a normal Vivec fight. Some fights may not be as challenging as Vivec, but if you can't do anything in lag then what is the point anyway? I'm having fun.

    Well if you’re playing on blue, I’m sure you are. The other factions seem to have it pretty rough in there from what I’ve heard.

    I just don’t play until after 10c when the main guilds start logging. Gets better rapidly after then.

    “The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on.”
  • Elong
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    No
    pzschrek wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    pzschrek wrote: »
    I noticed it was a lot better during the event hit now it’s in the toilet again.
    Elong wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Elong wrote: »
    You have a better performance than us because you're 60 players you're stacked with are already rendered, and when you approach the enemy we have to render you all, it gives you a jump and creates lag for us.
    They improve performance by sapping the will of their opponents to play -- just like the Zerg lord legend, Daniel.

    Personally, I'm not playing AOTP's daycap the map and turtle during prime time game. Fighting the constantly stacked EP faction is just miserable.

    The event made me love ESO PVP again and AOTP's return to Vivec has made hate it.

    Agreed. I've moved campaigns and I would recommend others to do so.

    Problem with this is shor is that myself I’ve found shor a nightmare unless you have a partner or two and DC have *** up sotha well and good.

    Sotha has been a blast. I was against the idea originally because of not being able to use my CP I had earned over the years, but at this stage I would take performance over anything. The laggiest it gets is a normal Vivec fight. Some fights may not be as challenging as Vivec, but if you can't do anything in lag then what is the point anyway? I'm having fun.

    Well if you’re playing on blue, I’m sure you are. The other factions seem to have it pretty rough in there from what I’ve heard.

    I just don’t play until after 10c when the main guilds start logging. Gets better rapidly after then.

    I know DC cap it during the day but I only play late night server time (I'm oceanic), and during that time there's usually only a 12 man pug group and a couple of 3-5 mans for DC, while they're (rightly) double teamed. It's a lot of fun and plenty of good fights.
  • Lord_Wrath
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    No
    You know I did think things seemed to be running a little better, but a few hours ago I noticed others as well as myself having a hard time with skills not firing off. Thats always been my biggest turn off since forever ago. Sometimes things run well, sometimes im tapping a skill 5 times before my prior bar flip kicks through and the wrong skill fires off instead.
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  • Nutshotz
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    No
    For everyone that states they had better improvement after midyear on PC na vivec please show your proof.

    From my PoV it's gotten worse. During the midyear I logged on mainly early AM or late night to avoid the large raids. Shor was a mess with AoTP running on that campaign
    Surprisingly vivec was very stable, but now vivec is back to the same old lagfest.

    Now my 2019 ESO wish is for anyone that runs more than 1 raid of 24 players. The other group goes to another campaign. I can almost be certain that the performance will be 10x better.
  • Ixtyr
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    Game's been virtually unplayable for me in Vivec for the past week. Crippling skill lag and always hard crashing anytime I approach a large fight at a keep - in line with what Crown and Elong have mentioned above.

    I'll derp around on Shor a little bit here and there but it's pretty depressing to not be able to stay connected to the game just because X group is stacking massive numbers that I'm somehow unable to render with a beefy PC, gigabit internet and all settings dropped to Low with addons disabled.

    As much as I'd like to hate on guilds for this - and guilds *are* part of the problem, particularly those stacking multiple raids in the same spot - fact is the game was designed and marketed as being able to support 2,000 people on a server with fights 3-5x larger than what we're dealing with right now, and the fact that 60 people being in the same spot being loosely coordinated is gamebreaking is 100%, unequivocably, Zenimax's fault and they need to fix it.
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  • SKYICE01
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    No
    Mine is worse :( PC EU servers are literally unplayable sometimes.
    Edited by SKYICE01 on 2 February 2019 15:06
  • nckg84
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    No
    Performance is terrible and they have no clue what they are doing.
  • clocksstoppe
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    No
    I'm still dying at full HP due to lag sometimes
  • WitchyWarrior
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    No
    Crown wrote: »

    Desync = When all of a sudden everyone else freezes on the screen, but you can still move around - though your skills won't go off. You can still type in chat until you get booted from the game after about 2 minutes. You then get error messages when trying to get back in for about 8-10 minutes, and pray to the Daedra that you won't be in PvE land when you get back into the game. I like to take these opportunities to try and swim to the centre of the map - as if you're mounted when it desyncs you keep the horse movement speed and slaughter fish won't hurt you.

    Thank you! This is EXACTLY what has been happening to me so much more since the mayhem event. I am glad there is a name for it. The past two days have been the worse.
    I am actually typing this while waiting to log back in after it happening within 10 minutes of me getting into Vivec. It happens the most when a outpost is called out in zone as being under attack, but it's not flagged yet so I port in. But when I get there, no one is moving. Just me.
    It also happens every time I die and rez at an FC during a big battle. During the fight, everything is fine. But if I rez at the FC, it happens.
    But last night it happened at least 5 times over only a few hours.
    I was loving the Midyear event! I was even in Vivec the whole time & it was a HUGE difference. It was nice.
    Now its worse than ever.
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