Your Favorite Tribunal

Dont_do_drugs

Bilbo Baggins

down with the fake gods.

VaranisArano

Almalexia- Mother Morrowind (Lady Light Bulb)

ghastley wrote: »

Well the original five companions were these three, plus Indoril Nerevar, and Voryn Dagoth. Where have we seen five companions before? Must be a recurring theme somewhere. Or lack of originality. Does one of those five betray the others?

If you played TES III, then the only choice is "none of the above", which is what Bilbo represents, I assume.

In the case of Nerevar and Dagoth Ur, which one betrayed the other is up for debate, depending on your interpretation of the legends and whether or not you think Dagoth Ur is lying, mistaken or telling the truth.

Its what I love about Morrowind. You get all the pieces, but its up to you to decide what you think really happened at Red Mountain.

Dont_do_drugs

Bilbo Baggins

VaranisArano wrote: »

ghastley wrote: »

Well the original five companions were these three, plus Indoril Nerevar, and Voryn Dagoth. Where have we seen five companions before? Must be a recurring theme somewhere. Or lack of originality. Does one of those five betray the others?

If you played TES III, then the only choice is "none of the above", which is what Bilbo represents, I assume.

In the case of Nerevar and Dagoth Ur, which one betrayed the other is up for debate, depending on your interpretation of the legends and whether or not you think Dagoth Ur is lying, mistaken or telling the truth.

Its what I love about Morrowind. You get all the pieces, but its up to you to decide what you think really happened at Red Mountain.

u know the 36 vivec books and what they suppose to mean? almalexia is one of the betrayers. i cant imagine anything worse, then getting betrayed/murdered like that from your wife/husband.

VaranisArano

Almalexia- Mother Morrowind (Lady Light Bulb)

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

ghastley wrote: »

Well the original five companions were these three, plus Indoril Nerevar, and Voryn Dagoth. Where have we seen five companions before? Must be a recurring theme somewhere. Or lack of originality. Does one of those five betray the others?

If you played TES III, then the only choice is "none of the above", which is what Bilbo represents, I assume.

In the case of Nerevar and Dagoth Ur, which one betrayed the other is up for debate, depending on your interpretation of the legends and whether or not you think Dagoth Ur is lying, mistaken or telling the truth.

Its what I love about Morrowind. You get all the pieces, but its up to you to decide what you think really happened at Red Mountain.

u know the 36 vivec books and what they suppose to mean? almalexia is one of the betrayers. i cant imagine anything worse, then getting betrayed/murdered like that from your wife/husband.

That's why I like Almalexia. By the time I met her in Tribunal, she's one of the more interesting characters. She was not the least bit happy to see my female Dunmer Nerevarine show up claiming to be the reincarnation of her dead husband. So she did her best to get rid of my Nerevarine, and nearly managed it too (Clockwork City and its traps was kinda painful).

So she's my favorite of the Tribunal because she's a pretty awesome, yet messed up, villain.

Shadow_Akula

Almalexia- Mother Morrowind (Lady Light Bulb)

Cardthief wrote: »

Well, if we are talking from a lore standpoint then the Vestige specifically will be around forever, unless there is a point in which they are removed from Nirn.

The Vestige has a body made out of Azure Plasm, which makes them immortal like the Daedra, however unlike Lesser Daedra, the Vestige cannot be permanently killed even if they were slain within Coldharbour. The only speculated way to permanently kill the Vestige would be to bring them to Aetherius and kill them there (such an event would probably never occur), or perhaps a Daedric Prince could kill the Vestige. Until one of those 2 things happens (which again is pure speculation, we do not know if those options would permanently kill the Vestige) then the Vestige will live forever, unable to die, unable to age, for the rest of eternity.

Sure there’s nothing lore-wise saying the vestige can be killed, however we are also the characters, it is up to us what happens after the events of eso, maybe mine went to aetherius and died, maybe he didn’t, perhaps our vestiges are reincarnated into the heroes of the other elder scrolls games.

Also at the end of the main quest your character gets their soul back - not sure what that would mean for the vestige whether they’d become mortal or not, but it would still have some effect on the character wouldn’t it?

As far as the story goes for my vestiges, they’re all either dead (most I chose to make mortal) or hiding from mortals (my immortal vampire vestige)by the events of TES 3

Dont_do_drugs

Bilbo Baggins

VaranisArano wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

ghastley wrote: »

Well the original five companions were these three, plus Indoril Nerevar, and Voryn Dagoth. Where have we seen five companions before? Must be a recurring theme somewhere. Or lack of originality. Does one of those five betray the others?

If you played TES III, then the only choice is "none of the above", which is what Bilbo represents, I assume.

In the case of Nerevar and Dagoth Ur, which one betrayed the other is up for debate, depending on your interpretation of the legends and whether or not you think Dagoth Ur is lying, mistaken or telling the truth.

Its what I love about Morrowind. You get all the pieces, but its up to you to decide what you think really happened at Red Mountain.

u know the 36 vivec books and what they suppose to mean? almalexia is one of the betrayers. i cant imagine anything worse, then getting betrayed/murdered like that from your wife/husband.

That's why I like Almalexia. By the time I met her in Tribunal, she's one of the more interesting characters. She was not the least bit happy to see my female Dunmer Nerevarine show up claiming to be the reincarnation of her dead husband. So she did her best to get rid of my Nerevarine, and nearly managed it too (Clockwork City and its traps was kinda painful).

So she's my favorite of the Tribunal because she's a pretty awesome, yet messed up, villain.

i hated her, i could say sotha sil was the one i really wanted to meet, the one i wanted to have some talks to. and then i entered the room....heartbreaking. she deserved every punch i gave her.

Cardthief

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

Shadow_Akula wrote: »

Cardthief wrote: »

Well, if we are talking from a lore standpoint then the Vestige specifically will be around forever, unless there is a point in which they are removed from Nirn.

The Vestige has a body made out of Azure Plasm, which makes them immortal like the Daedra, however unlike Lesser Daedra, the Vestige cannot be permanently killed even if they were slain within Coldharbour. The only speculated way to permanently kill the Vestige would be to bring them to Aetherius and kill them there (such an event would probably never occur), or perhaps a Daedric Prince could kill the Vestige. Until one of those 2 things happens (which again is pure speculation, we do not know if those options would permanently kill the Vestige) then the Vestige will live forever, unable to die, unable to age, for the rest of eternity.

Sure there’s nothing lore-wise saying the vestige can be killed, however we are also the characters, it is up to us what happens after the events of eso, maybe mine went to aetherius and died, maybe he didn’t, perhaps our vestiges are reincarnated into the heroes of the other elder scrolls games.

Also at the end of the main quest your character gets their soul back - not sure what that would mean for the vestige whether they’d become mortal or not, but it would still have some effect on the character wouldn’t it?

As far as the story goes for my vestiges, they’re all either dead (most I chose to make mortal) or hiding from mortals (my immortal vampire vestige)by the events of TES 3

When you get your soul back at the end of the main storyline, you still have a body made out of Azure Plasm, your original mortal body is either rotting away somewhere or is being used as an undead minion. When Mannimarco kills the Vestige the soul was transferred to Coldharbour, under the ownership of Molag Bal, in which he gives you a new body made out of Azure Plasm for the purpose of torturing you for eternity, your real body though is long gone.

Loves_guars

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

Sotha for sure, although, Vivec always makes me smile when trying to insert a poetic line, I wish we could talk more with him, same with Almalexia, I get that she makes a great villain.

ESO_Nightingale

Vivec- The Warrior Poet (The Glowing Floating Hippy)

Vivec because his lore is...... interesting....

Axmalexia

Almalexia- Mother Morrowind (Lady Light Bulb)

I don't usually give these second thought before voting because each time I chose Almalexia.

Reason being is that I believe she has great potential but it's the lack of progress in her writing specifically in game that drives me up a wall, and I'm sure others would agree with me. She's so much more than what we got, and this lack of actually seeking to improve her is just....disheartening? I just a differentiation from her Tribunal counterpart where then she's at the end of her rope. Where is this Mother Morrowind? Where is this kind and compassionate Goddess who walks amongst her people? Where is the Warden who defends her people? She's not here, and many just jump to 'crazy psycho that don't need anything'.

The way it is, to me at least, she's still portrayed as a stereotypical woman in power who does not know how to handle it and goes crazy when she starts to lose it. Compared to Vivec and Sotha Sil, both of them got so much love in their writing and focus meanwhile in Deshaan there's TES III: Tribunal Almalexia except in 2014. Bringing up Deshaan, I'm sure there will be the argument of "Oh well she got Deshaan while we got Vivec and Sotha Sil in DLCs, she doesn't need anything more." And that's where I'll have to disagree, she needs something new and fresh (That is not Sotha Sil's conversation we have which in theory nullifies what she tells us in Deshaan when you think about it).

Now I'm not going to ignore the prospect of her being the master gardener sowing lies because that is at least interesting in how she crafts a story that people will believe and might come true in the end. But alas, we are stuck with murderous woman who kills anyone in her conquest to stay in power.

Long story short, she's my favorite of the Tribunal and I wish that she'd get more love in writing.

Post thought edit:

She doesn't get the credit she deserves either. While VIvec and Sotha Sil are off thinking of matters of the universe, who is really making sure Morrowind doesn't end up in a ditch? in my opinion she is.

Rake

hague tribunal

Ash_In_My_Sujamma

Vivec- The Warrior Poet (The Glowing Floating Hippy)

It seems to me that Sotha sil and Almalexia are two extreme ideas and Vivec is the one balancing them both. A dedicated pragmatist on one side, an obsessed religious on the other. Vivec is a character that understands that a society with strong foundations needs both. He doesn't miss a chance to remind his people that he is a magnifiscent and powerfull divine being but at the same time he is aproachable by everyone who wants an audience with him. Also google muatra

Asardes

Bilbo Baggins

They are false gods using magic & some ancient Dwemer tech to make themselves appear as such.

They are in fact mortal and all 3 of them perish in the later TES timeline, at the turn of the 3rd/4th Era: Almalexia kills Sotha Sil, then she is killed by the Nerevarine to save Mournhold from the creations she has unleashed, then a few years down the road Vivec is taken by Merunes Dagon and the city destroyed by Bar Dau meteor that is no longer held in the sky by Vivec's powers.

HappyLittleTree

Bilbo Baggins

The tribunal is a lie!

notimetocare

Bilbo Baggins

The only good false god is a dead one

deleted220717-003304

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

It's definitely Sotha Sil for me. He also has his failings as a person, but he tries to do good, he's not stuck in the past or obsessed with his own legend, he continues to do his work even knowing his power and life will come to an end, and they just made him extremely likeable in ESO. The conversations with him are great.
Vivec and Almalexia are both interesting characters, but both are too occupied with their image and power at the detriment of actually caring about things or their people for their own sake. What remains is mostly two murderers and liars.

vivapadomay

I want to love Vivec so much, but every time he opens his arrogant damn mouth I lose it. Your city is so beautiful man why can't you just ZIP IT for ONE SECOND!?

Super fake gods. Very magical elves, sure. Passively holding up a meteor and constructing a clockwork dollhouse, pretty impressive 9th-level spells, there boyos.

rabidmyers

Vivec- The Warrior Poet (The Glowing Floating Hippy)

hippies are outta sight man

ProudImperial

Vivec- The Warrior Poet (The Glowing Floating Hippy)

For me its Vivec because I have only being exposed to him, I havent met the other two and probably never will since I dont have any of the DLCs.
So its Vivec.

Momocchii

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

Sotha Sil hands down. Super fascinating dude. Would love to talk to him about lots of topics. He also needs a hug. Like for real. Every time i do the quest in the Mnemonic Planisphere and hear the voice bits i get super depressed.

Hope we'll see him again in future DLC.

Korah_Eaglecry

Bilbo Baggins

Never really been a fan of any of them. Vivec is a narcissist that needs all the attention to be on him, Almalexia is absolutely obsessed with power and control over others and Sotha Sil is so caught up with his experiments that hes never free to actually apply those advances in technology to actually better his peoples lives.

RaddlemanNumber7

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

He talks sense. He isn't annoying. He's not a fake or a poseur. I've never had to kill him.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

ProudImperial wrote: »

For me its Vivec because I have only being exposed to him, I havent met the other two and probably never will since I dont have any of the DLCs.
So its Vivec.

@ProudImperial You can actually meet Almalexia in the vanilla game, she's in the Ebonheart Pact zone of Deshaan. She's involved in a couple of the story quests there.

Claudman

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

Sotha Sil is better and hotter than the other two.

Vrienda

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

Vivec needs to lay off the skooma.

Almalexia is crazy and vain.

Sotha Sil is just depressed.

I'd say Sotha Sil.

Dystopia2020

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

Seht, cause he is hot and mysterious.

AllegraLionheart

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Vivec because his lore is...... interesting....

You mean weirdly sexy.
Except for when it's not.
._.

TelvanniWizard

Bilbo Baggins

All hail the true tribunal, not those impostors.

themaddaedra

Sortha Sil- Father of Mysteries (Father of Loose Screws)

I think forum rules don't let me to say what i think about Almalexia.

Also, why does the poll say Sortha?

Haphazard.Crescentb14a_ESO

Vivec- The Warrior Poet (The Glowing Floating Hippy)

Vivec, because he stayed relevant the longest and actually does stuff to show he cares about his people and isn't just using his power for vanity. (He constantly kept that meteor up, he could have just said "lol bye guys" but didn't.)

Sotha Sil is a close second, but he doesn't really care about his people. I like his manner of philosophy, though.

Almalexia only cared about her godhood/image, which lead to her more or less going crazy (as much as I wanted to love her, I feel she let power corrupt her beyond reason.)