Official Discussion Thread for "Dragon Bones and Update 17 Preview"

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

This is the official discussion thread for the "Dragon Bones and Update 17 Preview" blog article.

An ancient power re-awakens and threatens all of Tamriel in The Elder Scrolls Online's newest DLC game pack, Dragon Bones. This February, you can discover two exciting new dungeons and enjoy a host of base-game additions and improvements with Update 17.

Darkheart

Will our dye station we currently have at our homes be changed to the outfit station?

And can we dye armor/clothing at the outfit station?

BigBadVolk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnRQJxanVM

Cool wish the skeletal dragon would be a trial boss, looking forward to these dungeons

JamieAubrey

With the Level Up Advisor, every time one of your characters gains a level, you will receive gameplay tips and useful rewards

So what about people that are already at max lvl ? will they get the rewards etc via mail or auto added to inv/craft bag

casparian

In addition to Mor Khazgur, we're introducing the dark caverns of the Deeping Drome. In this long-forgotten Dwarven ruin, you'll carefully navigate claustrophobic pathways filled with the bones of would-be champions. This new arena is built for deadly ambushes and stealthy playstyles, so watch your back!

I can't decide if this is a chance to rek more wannabe gankers, or just one more reason not to be interested in BGs.

Whether you're a veteran dungeon delver looking for a challenge, a PvP warrior longing for new Battlegrounds to conquer, or a role-player seeking a stylish new look for every occasion, there's something for everyone in this latest update.

Of all the things PVPers "long for" out of BGs, I can assure you new maps are not anywhere near the top of the list.

Edit: oh snap, they're going back to non-CP. Excited to try them out again!

Left4Daud

Very exciting stuff @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , very much looking forward to the new Dungeons and of course the quality of life improvements. Something that caught my eye from the article regarding the new level up advisor

"With the Level Up Advisor, every time one of your characters gains a level, you will receive gameplay tips and useful rewards. These rewards will include gold, crafting materials, and consumables, and certain key leveling milestones will even reward you with a new mount or a Crown Crate!"

Will the key leveling milestone mount apply retroactively to players with all max level characters? If not can we still earn the mount by leveling up a new character? Will the possible crown crate rewarded for leveling up be restricted in quantity per account or will users be able to essentially farm these crown crates by deleting and re-leveling characters?

SantieClaws

So no increase in furnishing slots in this update - is this planned perhaps?

This is requested at least as much, maybe even more, than home storage.

Khajiit wants to build a roof garden.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Darkheart wrote: »

Will our dye station we currently have at our homes be changed to the outfit station?

And can we dye armor/clothing at the outfit station?

Yes and yes! The Outfit station includes all the functionality of the previous Dye Stations. The Outfit Stations quite literally replace the Dye Stations, including where they appear in the world. We look forward to having you try them out on the PTS very soon.

SorataArisugawa

SantieClaws wrote: »

So no increase in furnishing slots in this update - is this planned perhaps?

This is requested at least as much, maybe even more, than home storage.

Khajiit wants to build a roof garden.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

@ZOS_GinaBruno Gina please!!! Listen to Santie and pass this to the Devs for us!

Darkheart

Will armor be bound when changing the style of a item?

This will work for ugly helms and shoulders of the undaunted right?

Will it need something extra to change the style? (Simular like transmute crystals.)

MyNameIsElias

"This update will allow you to acquire unique collectibles that you can use to store items in your homes, freeing up valuable inventory and bank space. You'll be able to acquire these new items in game or from the Crown Store."

I'm a bit confused by this, does this mean we only get to store unique new items being added next patch? We won't be able to store any inventory items we want?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

ManwithBeard9

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

"This update will allow you to acquire unique collectibles that you can use to store items in your homes, freeing up valuable inventory and bank space. You'll be able to acquire these new items in game or from the Crown Store."

I'm a bit confused by this, does this mean we only get to store unique new items being added next patch? We won't be able to store any inventory items we want?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

The unique collectibles are the storage. LET THE GRIND BEGIN

casparian

Okay, another question. The Outfit System section says:

With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles by visiting an Outfit Station. [...] You will have access to one unique outfit that you can customize using gold, but you will also be able to acquire Outfit Change Tokens and additional Outfit Slots from the Crown Store, allowing you to have a variety of outfits ready to go at a moment's notice.

I don't understand this. Does this mean I only get to customize my appearance once without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or can I re-customize my appearance multiple times without spending Crowns? What is an Outfit Slot? Is this the same as the costume slot we currently have? When I use an Outfit Station, am I changing the style of the actual gear I have equipped, and if so, can I change it again without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or am I changing the appearance of a costume (the "one unique outfit" mentioned in the article)?

Symposium56

Does the new outfit system apply to weapon s as well?

SantieClaws

casparian wrote: »

Okay, another question. The Outfit System section says:

With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles by visiting an Outfit Station. [...] You will have access to one unique outfit that you can customize using gold, but you will also be able to acquire Outfit Change Tokens and additional Outfit Slots from the Crown Store, allowing you to have a variety of outfits ready to go at a moment's notice.

I don't understand this. Does this mean I only get to customize my appearance once without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or can I re-customize my appearance multiple times without spending Crowns? What is an Outfit Slot? Is this the same as the costume slot we currently have? When I use an Outfit Station, am I changing the style of the actual gear I have equipped, and if so, can I change it again without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or am I changing the appearance of a costume (the "one unique outfit" mentioned in the article)?

Khajiit assumes this might work a little like a system she once encountered in her travels to Middle Earth. Basically you put bits together in slots and they become a costume - so you can wear that cosmetic armour sort of over your real one.

Possibly.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

MissBizz

With the new level up rewards, will rewards be retroactively given to players? Or will players need to level up a new character (which for some will mean deleting a character) to gain the mount?

Tyrion87

casparian wrote: »

Okay, another question. The Outfit System section says:

With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles by visiting an Outfit Station. [...] You will have access to one unique outfit that you can customize using gold, but you will also be able to acquire Outfit Change Tokens and additional Outfit Slots from the Crown Store, allowing you to have a variety of outfits ready to go at a moment's notice.

I don't understand this. Does this mean I only get to customize my appearance once without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or can I re-customize my appearance multiple times without spending Crowns? What is an Outfit Slot? Is this the same as the costume slot we currently have? When I use an Outfit Station, am I changing the style of the actual gear I have equipped, and if so, can I change it again without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or am I changing the appearance of a costume (the "one unique outfit" mentioned in the article)?

I have exactly the same doubts/worries! Some clarification is needed here.

Symposium56

casparian wrote: »

Okay, another question. The Outfit System section says:

With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles by visiting an Outfit Station. [...] You will have access to one unique outfit that you can customize using gold, but you will also be able to acquire Outfit Change Tokens and additional Outfit Slots from the Crown Store, allowing you to have a variety of outfits ready to go at a moment's notice.

I don't understand this. Does this mean I only get to customize my appearance once without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or can I re-customize my appearance multiple times without spending Crowns? What is an Outfit Slot? Is this the same as the costume slot we currently have? When I use an Outfit Station, am I changing the style of the actual gear I have equipped, and if so, can I change it again without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or am I changing the appearance of a costume (the "one unique outfit" mentioned in the article)?

I think it means that you get 1 outfit slot for free. You can alter that slot however many times you want. But if you want extra outfit slots you have to buy them with crowns.

MissBizz

On a scale of Argonian Style Stone to 50 Transmute Crystals to the Mythical Cipher.... how rare are these storage collectibles in game?

MissBizz

Symposium56 wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Okay, another question. The Outfit System section says:

With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles by visiting an Outfit Station. [...] You will have access to one unique outfit that you can customize using gold, but you will also be able to acquire Outfit Change Tokens and additional Outfit Slots from the Crown Store, allowing you to have a variety of outfits ready to go at a moment's notice.

I don't understand this. Does this mean I only get to customize my appearance once without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or can I re-customize my appearance multiple times without spending Crowns? What is an Outfit Slot? Is this the same as the costume slot we currently have? When I use an Outfit Station, am I changing the style of the actual gear I have equipped, and if so, can I change it again without buying tokens from the Crown Store? Or am I changing the appearance of a costume (the "one unique outfit" mentioned in the article)?

I think it means that you get 1 outfit slot for free. You can alter that slot however many times you want. But if you want extra outfit slots you have to buy them with crowns.

^ This is exactly how I understand it. By the sounds of it, you are not changing the look of your actual gear. More like a custom costume.

If I have my Mending/SPC on and go create an "outfit" and put it on... the game will still keep my in that outfit if I change out my mending for worm for example.

I don't actually know. I just think that is how it sounds.

mikemacon

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!

{{throws credit card at screen}}

MyNameIsElias

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

"This update will allow you to acquire unique collectibles that you can use to store items in your homes, freeing up valuable inventory and bank space. You'll be able to acquire these new items in game or from the Crown Store."

I'm a bit confused by this, does this mean we only get to store unique new items being added next patch? We won't be able to store any inventory items we want?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

The unique collectibles are the storage. LET THE GRIND BEGIN

Ooooooo ok, the unique items are the items we use for storage. Thank you for the clarification, my english can fail me sometimes lol

Phaedrathallassa

The update looks great! Except for one thing... Lots of shinies for new players leveling up, but what about those of us that have been around forever and already leveled up our characters? Are we to be forgotten yet again?

For me it's not that big a deal since I still have more alts to level, but I know at least one person that has 14 max level characters. Is she out of luck for the rewards or will they be rewarded retroactively? (Or perhaps more character slots to buy...)

One other question: Is the unique outfit per-character or account-wide?

My suspicion is that you get a single account-wide outfit... that you can set up on your character that knows all the motifs... but then of course your alts all look the same... is this indeed how it works?

One last question:

WHEN ARE WE GETTING WEAPON TRANSMOG/SKINS? I'm sick of these blood-red weapons. Can we at least dye them?! That was 60% of the excitement about transmog and now it seems that weapons once again are stuck looking the way they dropped!

MissBizz

@Phaedrathallassa @Symposium56

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4751578/#Comment_4751578

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Weapons are included in the Outfit System, so you'll be able to not only change how your weapon looks, but also... dye it! Cool, right?

Now we know!

Delpi

But... if the transmog system is an outfit... can we dye it without eso plus ??? I don't like the idea of an outfit system at all...what if we only want to change a piece of the armor?

RaddlemanNumber7

Looks like a lot of people have totally misjudged what Transmog will allow. Let the *** storm begin! LOL

mmogamerperson

This isn't Transmog. It's a costume system.

mmogamerperson

(stupid double post)

Phaedrathallassa

MissBizz wrote: »

@Phaedrathallassa @Symposium56

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4751578/#Comment_4751578

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Weapons are included in the Outfit System, so you'll be able to not only change how your weapon looks, but also... dye it! Cool, right?

Now we know!

Eyyyyyyyy. That's a big relief. I'm excited to be able to get my tanks looking proper paladin-ey! No more bloodspawn and blood-red weapons for them! Thank you for the link MissBizz

Cinbri

No new modes for bgs

casparian

Cinbri wrote: »

No new modes for bgs

Think of it this way: the mode pool has not been further diluted making Deathmatch even rarer.