Official Discussion thread for "Clockwork City and Update 16 Preview"

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

This is the official discussion thread for the Clockwork City and Update 16 Preview blog article.

Step into Sotha Sil's realm with the Clockwork City DLC game pack, coming this Fall as part of ESO Plus membership and available in the Crown Store. Find out everything you need to know about this new zone and Update 16 with our preview article!

MyNameIsElias

I'm really excited for this, also hope there will be a fishing achivement in this new zone, or maybe mechanical constructs and water don't mix well Really awesome stuff, hope we get a PTS date soon

lpfan678

Is the Transmutation system exclusive to crafted weapons/armor? The obvious question is, can you transmute out the many useless and disappointing traits of vMA weapons?

Mojmir

Yay,gotta grind vet content for the crystals.gauranteed drop? they account bound too? Seriously,wtf does everything have to involve grinding? Can no developer come up with a better system?

Cinbri

Pts date? Is it after IC event?

Gan Xing

lpfan678 wrote: »

Is the Transmutation system exclusive to crafted weapons/armor? The obvious question is, can you transmute out the many useless and disappointing traits of vMA weapons?

I think this is what is gonna happen, otherwise, transmutation would be pointless, just go and make your own gear if it only works with crafted items.

That said, transmutation came quickly after they announced it.... but will make getting BIS gear that much easier expect prices for items that are less useful (like invigorating) to increase, people gonna be changing useless traits to useful traits real quick.


Also, collect all the transmutation crystals... those things are gonna sell for a ton of gold...

"In addition to the crafting skill requirement, Transmutation requires a special new resource called Transmutation Crystals that you'll need to collect and save. You'll be able to earn Transmutation Crystals by completing veteran level content (such as Veteran Mode Dungeons or Trials)"

or not

Altyrann

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Any chance we can get clarification on whether any items will be excluded from transmutation?

Specifically, will we be able to change the traits of dungeon set items, trial set items and vDSA / vMA weapons?

Thanks

Asardes

Well, some of the vet dungeons can be run in as little as 10 minutes so I don't think those mats will be that expensive. Think of CoA 1 for example.

olsborg

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

BenevolentBowd

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ,

To confirm, the Transmutation crystals will not drop in the arenas (Maelstorm, Dragonstar, etc.)

Cinbri

And where is September crownstore preview

starlizard70ub17_ESO

olsborg wrote: »

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

Good idea, and while they're at it they should make it possible to get AP outside PVP. After all, why should those of us who only want to PVE be forced to PVP in order to get PVP rewards.

mad0ni0n

Asardes wrote: »

Well, some of the vet dungeons can be run in as little as 10 minutes so I don't think those mats will be that expensive. Think of CoA 1 for example.

Fungal Grotto 1 is another good example, pretty sure it takes less than 10 minutes because you can skip a big section of it.

Horowonnoe

Question: With the retraiting system, will we be able to re-trait vMA weapons, Master weapons and trial/dungeon set drops? Please say yes, please say yes...

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

dpencil1

BenevolentBowd wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ,

To confirm, the Transmutation crystals will not drop in the arenas (Maelstorm, Dragonstar, etc.)

I don't see why they wouldn't if they are Vet content.

MythicEmperor

I only wish these crystals were available in the normal difficulty to allow new players to catch up.

LonePirate

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

Good idea, and while they're at it they should make it possible to get AP outside PVP. After all, why should those of us who only want to PVE be forced to PVP in order to get PVP rewards.

What PVP rewards do PVE players want? All of the PVP gear is sub-standard for PVE. Could it be the Akaviri and Militant Ordinator motifs?

Regardless of that, the transmutation crystals need to be made available for PVPers as well, be it from the end of campaign rewards or from The Golden vendor on weekends.

BenevolentBowd

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Also, can you confirm the Transmutation Shards will be tradeable?

kylewwefan

Looks Great! When does it come out?

CavalryPK

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the Clockwork City and Update 16 Preview blog article.

Step into Sotha Sil's realm with the Clockwork City DLC game pack, coming this Fall as part of ESO Plus membership and available in the Crown Store. Find out everything you need to know about this new zone and Update 16 with our preview article!

yay I am sort of excited:

QUESTION: Lets say your buddy has BOUND spinners fire staff that has crap trait. and you are the master crafter. how are you going to change his weapon's trait?

Based on what I am reading .. people can only re-trait their own weapons if only "they" have the traits researched. you cannot re-trait someone's bound armor/weapons.

So crafters making money on this sounds like not going to happen. unless I am missing something.

VelociousLegend

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

Good idea, and while they're at it they should make it possible to get AP outside PVP. After all, why should those of us who only want to PVE be forced to PVP in order to get PVP rewards.

Except item traits are not exclusive to PvE or PvP. Grinding for the transmutation crystals shouldn't be obtainable only through PvE.

ZOS, Please don't make PvPers grind PvE to change traits... Make them a rare drop in PvP rewards, campaign rewards, or even an purchasable with AP. Make it accessible to both playstyles.

rhapsodious

CavalryPK wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the Clockwork City and Update 16 Preview blog article.

Step into Sotha Sil's realm with the Clockwork City DLC game pack, coming this Fall as part of ESO Plus membership and available in the Crown Store. Find out everything you need to know about this new zone and Update 16 with our preview article!

yay I am sort of excited:

QUESTION: Lets say your buddy has BOUND spinners fire staff that has crap trait. and you are the master crafter. how are you going to change his weapon's trait?

Based on what I am reading .. people can only re-trait their own weapons if only "they" have the traits researched. you cannot re-trait someone's bound armor/weapons.

So crafters making money on this sounds like not going to happen. unless I am missing something.

Can always have your buddy buy a crap spinner inferno off a guild store and pay you to retrait it. Makes sense to me that coveted items like vMA weapons would require investment from the player themselves.

CavalryPK

rhapsodious wrote: »

CavalryPK wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the Clockwork City and Update 16 Preview blog article.

Step into Sotha Sil's realm with the Clockwork City DLC game pack, coming this Fall as part of ESO Plus membership and available in the Crown Store. Find out everything you need to know about this new zone and Update 16 with our preview article!

yay I am sort of excited:

QUESTION: Lets say your buddy has BOUND spinners fire staff that has crap trait. and you are the master crafter. how are you going to change his weapon's trait?

Based on what I am reading .. people can only re-trait their own weapons if only "they" have the traits researched. you cannot re-trait someone's bound armor/weapons.

So crafters making money on this sounds like not going to happen. unless I am missing something.

Can always have your buddy buy a crap spinner inferno off a guild store and pay you to retrait it. Makes sense to me that coveted items like vMA weapons would require investment from the player themselves.

good point. Now lets say the weapons is a drop from a dungeon. what then ?

Ilsabet

CavalryPK wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the Clockwork City and Update 16 Preview blog article.

Step into Sotha Sil's realm with the Clockwork City DLC game pack, coming this Fall as part of ESO Plus membership and available in the Crown Store. Find out everything you need to know about this new zone and Update 16 with our preview article!

yay I am sort of excited:

QUESTION: Lets say your buddy has BOUND spinners fire staff that has crap trait. and you are the master crafter. how are you going to change his weapon's trait?

Based on what I am reading .. people can only re-trait their own weapons if only "they" have the traits researched. you cannot re-trait someone's bound armor/weapons.

So crafters making money on this sounds like not going to happen. unless I am missing something.

Your buddy should probably spend the 6 hours to research the trait he wants, and then (unless they pull out some other requirement) he'll be good to go.

BenevolentBowd

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

Good idea, and while they're at it they should make it possible to get AP outside PVP. After all, why should those of us who only want to PVE be forced to PVP in order to get PVP rewards.

In addition to earning AP for motifs and style items to be used in crafting orders or master writs, but non-crafters want unlock PvP skills like rapid maneuvers, vigor, warhorn, etc. which are useful in PvE.

Actually, you can earn AP outside of PvP (see http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-cyrodiil-do-you-know-about-the-pve-daily-quests/) however the number of dailies you can do is capped. However, it would be very time consuming to do so and there is no guarantee your faction will control the town when you do them.

I would like to see more ways to earn AP via PvE, perhaps special Cyrodiil Crafting Writs that reward motifs, style items, and/or AP. My suggestion would be make any AP earned in this way to just go to the bank so that it wouldn't affect a characters PvP Rank. However, this would not help players needing to unlock PvP skills.

Rex-Umbra

@ZOS_GinaBruno Question; Does the transmutation system include changing the style of the gear?

Rustyfish101

hypeeee

starlizard70ub17_ESO

BenevolentBowd wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

Good idea, and while they're at it they should make it possible to get AP outside PVP. After all, why should those of us who only want to PVE be forced to PVP in order to get PVP rewards.

In addition to earning AP for motifs and style items to be used in crafting orders or master writs, but non-crafters want unlock PvP skills like rapid maneuvers, vigor, warhorn, etc. which are useful in PvE.

Actually, you can earn AP outside of PvP (see http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-cyrodiil-do-you-know-about-the-pve-daily-quests/) however the number of dailies you can do is capped. However, it would be very time consuming to do so and there is no guarantee your faction will control the town when you do them.

I would like to see more ways to earn AP via PvE, perhaps special Cyrodiil Crafting Writs that reward motifs, style items, and/or AP. My suggestion would be make any AP earned in this way to just go to the bank so that it wouldn't affect a characters PvP Rank. However, this would not help players needing to unlock PvP skills.

I was only thinking of the PVP motifs and other craft like items. If you want the PVP skills, vigor, etc and ranks. you'd still need to go PVP for those.
Anyone can show up at their PVP home base and buy items off the Golden for gold, lots of gold, they could do the same for other craft type items.

pieratsos

BenevolentBowd wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

For the love of god, make it possible to get some of these crystals in pvp rewards. Why do we HAVE to do all this pve if we just want to pvp.

Good idea, and while they're at it they should make it possible to get AP outside PVP. After all, why should those of us who only want to PVE be forced to PVP in order to get PVP rewards.

In addition to earning AP for motifs and style items to be used in crafting orders or master writs, but non-crafters want unlock PvP skills like rapid maneuvers, vigor, warhorn, etc. which are useful in PvE.

Actually, you can earn AP outside of PvP (see http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-cyrodiil-do-you-know-about-the-pve-daily-quests/) however the number of dailies you can do is capped. However, it would be very time consuming to do so and there is no guarantee your faction will control the town when you do them.

I would like to see more ways to earn AP via PvE, perhaps special Cyrodiil Crafting Writs that reward motifs, style items, and/or AP. My suggestion would be make any AP earned in this way to just go to the bank so that it wouldn't affect a characters PvP Rank. However, this would not help players needing to unlock PvP skills.

You can get rapid maneuvers in literally the first minute you enter cyrodiil at lvl 10.
You can get vigor and warhorn in 2-3 hours without having to kill a single person in PVP.

There is a difference between the game giving you motivation to do both PVP/PVE and forcing to grind a specific content over and over again even if you dont like it.

PVP skills are a motivation for people to give PVP a try and see if they like it. Its not forcing you to do it for countless hours. If you dont like it feel free to not do it again after those couple of hours you spent to get the skills. But locking things behind countless of dungeon runs isnt a motivation to try PVE. Its a stupid grind. And that comes from someone who doesnt even have a problem with doing PVE.

Jhalin

I don't understand the QQ from PvPers. There's plenty of vet dungeons that are braindead easy. You can farm this stuff just as fast as everyone else, just join the PvE hype trains like you would a PvP zerg.

Evil_Rurouni

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Question; Does the transmutation system include changing the style of the gear?

Judging by the phrasing of the announcement I'm guessing not.
This displeases me.

If the work to alter traits has been done already, adding style change shouldn't really need much additional work.

Can we please get style change added in @ZOS_GinaBruno?