As a new player Cyrodil is so confusing. How does it work?

Noyack

I am a level 27 Dragon Knight.
I am finally getting to understand combat. I run a tank sword and shield and I know how to taunt. I have smoothly completed several simple dungeons with pub groups.

I switch to a more Dps two hand and now I am even actively switching in combat between my tank and dps for best results.

I love the quests and am feeling like I am learning and understanding this game.

So I figured I would jump into pvp and give it a try. But when i went to Cyrodil i was so confused. i couldn't find anyone. I couldn't fast travel. I wasn't in a group. and I was all alone in a giant map. I saw no enemies and no friendlies. well a few players but they were doing nothing. I posted in chat, no one responded at all. no one was even talking.

I went into Cyrodil and ended up getting lost and I couldnt fast travel back. it took me an hour just to get back to the area I started in and fast travel back to vvardenfell. It was a total waste of time and a disaster. What gives?

geonsocal

oh man - choose your map well

if you're looking for action head to your platform/server's 30 day cp map...

make sure you complete the initial quest so the mission boards activate...

if you're looking for a social experience - type "lfg" in chat...

learn the map - most battles will occur at the six emperor keeps surrounding the lake (can't remember the name), which surrounds imperial city...

check the map for where your alliances color is close to an enemies color...look for cross swords also...

the outposts are great for finding fights...

once you find some zerg on zerg violence - you're home

Publius_Scipio

First, make sure you go into the "Kyne" campaign. It's for players level 10-49 only. And usually has a good population. Definitely do this because in the other campaigns (especially CP enabled ones) you will be mowed down very quickly by players on steroids (in game and most likely they are on it irl too) and get frustrated.

Second, what you wear in PvE won't really cut it in PvP. You will want to have impenetrable trait on your armor for sure.

Third, you can only fast travel to keeps or outposts your alliance owns (AD yellow, DC blue, EP red) and if at least one resource (mine, farm, lumber mill) surrounding the keep is owned by your alliance. You fast travel using the transitus stones (not to be confused with wayshrine). If fast travel is available to you to a keep, you will see the "lines" on map connecting each keep highlighted bright in your alliance color. Further, you can't fast travel or respawn at any keep that is "under attack".

In zone say you are looking for a group "lfg", say you are new and looking to learn. That's pretty much it. It seems intimidating at first but even though Cyrodiil is a massive zone you get the hang of things pretty quick.

S1ipperyJim

To fast travel, Cyrodiil uses transitus shrines. These connect alliance-controlled keeps, but cannot be used if the keep which the wayshrine is located at is under siege. If you look on the map you can use transitus shrines to travel between the keeps on your map which have a solid colour connecting them which corresponds with your alliance colour. For more info:

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Transitus_Network

If all else fails and you are miles from a transitus shrine, simply kill yourself to travel back to the starting keep, or allow yourself to be killed by another faction's guards to allow reviving at any alliance controlled keep/town etc. The good thing is in PVE there is hardly any penalty to your armour health from dying.

To find battles, look on your map and travel to places where there is currently a battle shown (crossed swords, keeps under siege) or you can anticipate where these will happen soon with experience and by looking for central keeps where two alliances are next to each other.

Keep in mind that there are some 'dead' periods in a campaign, typically if the entire map is one colour then you most likley won't find any battles.

If you keep posting in chat for a group and have no luck, start your own group! Often people keep on asking for a group when they could have invited all the other LFG's into a new group and got a decent sized squad happening.

RANKK7

Noyack wrote: »

I went into Cyrodil and ended up getting lost and I couldnt fast travel back. it took me an hour just to get back to the area I started in and fast travel back to vvardenfell. It was a total waste of time and a disaster. What gives?

This bought me good memories... first time I went in Cyrodiil I couldn't find the way back for the life of me, I kept running from Transitus to Transitus like a fool, really I couldn't see the wayshrine, I was truly new to the game, no addons, no minimap or any decent knowledge of map icons yet.
I was kind of desperate, looked 100 times at the Campaign tab and thought "damn, 7 days! I can't leave the zone for 7 days!" I was in Haderus. The only way to leave (seemed to me) was to abandon and pay 100k gold or 100k alliance points, I was like: LOL WTF?! 100k!
I really thought I was doomed to stay in there until the end of the campaign. I followed some people in combat, went to some keeps and outposts, had fun getting rekt very much, I don't even know what I was wearing, some random green/blue crap found in pve, then I made some friends and they showed me the wayshrine . It's good memories after all.

Anlace

You might want to google for PvP guides. There's a LOT of stuff to learn, and the game itself will teach you about three percent of it.

Reverb

Do the tutorial quest. Follow it through, and don't take the fast way out. It will explain how to navigate the transitus, and is the easiest 2 skill points you'll earn in game.

For everything else, Publius nailed it. Do what he said.

Edited to link Brian's old FAQ. It's a bit out of date, but everything here is still accurate, and helps explain some of what may be confusing to someone trying to figure out Cyrodiil for the first time:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/68593/alliance-war-faq#latest

Ihatenightblades

Lmaoooooooooo. I died at "i couldnt fast travel"

Olen_Mikko

You should be in Under level 50 campaign. It is usually quite popular.

Cyrodiil is huge, so fights are usually centered on emperor keeps (Blue road Keep, Alessia, Roebeck, Ash, Aleswell and Chalman)

Look for crossed swords. They indicate fights. Bigger swords, bigger fight. They also are in different colors, to tell you who's fighting who.

You can't fast travel in Cyrodiil. You can travel through wayshrines that are found in keeps and outposts. Keep needs to be linked, in order to travel through keeps / border

Hope this clarifies at least a bit.

LordNilloc

What platform and server are you on?
If xbox NA I'll invite you to a guild that can help you out.
If not, I'm sure someone else will be more than happy to do the same.

Glass

There are 3 ways that Cyrodiil works

You can queue in VIvec and get zerged between BRK and Sejanus, Nikel-Roebeck and Aleswell and Bleakers all day long

You can queue in Sotha join the alliance that has more people and wait for everyone to go to sleep or logout for being outnumbered and take the whole map killing a handful of players but a bunch full of guards



Or best feature in Horns of the Reach, join an empty campaign and get emperor in one alliance and then swap to the other and get emperor for a buddy straight after, killing all the guards that you can get with no enemy players to be spotted.

Jamascus

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Lmaoooooooooo. I died at "i couldnt fast travel"

C'mom man, that isn't helpful.

Reverb

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Lmaoooooooooo. I died at "i couldnt fast travel"

With you being dead now, I guess we can look forward to you not posting here anymore.

geonsocal

@Noyack ...i'm so jealous...i still remember how excited i was to first discover pvp...

couple of quick tips:
- buy plenty of stamina/magicka/health potions from siege merchant - quickslot and use them
- stay in stealth - as much as possible
- buy souls gems - rez your allies whenever possible
- slot vigor - you can make a ton of AP by healing allies
- slot rapid maneuvers when moving from keep to keep - offensive/"capture" ticks (AP rewards) are the way to go at the moment, you need to be able to move around quickly as soon as you see an enemy keep/outpost is "flagged"
- use siege equipment: flaming oil on tops of keeps/outposts, alliance ballistas for breaking down enemy doors and walls, fire ballistas for shooting at enemies
- pick your fights wisely

Sword and Board will work fine for melee combat - but, you need to also have either a bow or staff equipped for long range combat...a lot of zerg combat occurs with at least 20 meters or more distance from your enemies...

turtle up - make sure you go in wearing lots of heavy armor, get your shields and heals straight, block and roll dodge a bunch...the trick is to stay alive as long as possible so you can continue to accumulate AP at a decent pace...combat scaling will help make you naturally harder to kill...

forget the non-vet campaigns...they're just as, if not more so, competitive than the 30 day cp map - only thing - you won't have the combat scaling/leveling bonus for your lower level character to help give you an edge...

get out in to the deep water, you'll learn to swim a lot faster...you may not be able to 1v1 other players - but, hopefully in short time you'll learn to use your allies and surroundings to make plenty of kills...

geonsocal

Beardimus

Oh and upgrade dat horse speed oooh yeah.

HorseSim2017

AlnilamE

Everybody's first time in Cyrodiil: Sooo... how do I get out of here now?

Welcome to PvP, OP. If you follow the tips people have given you in this thread you will be on your way to having fun in no time.

SlinkySlack

Also when looking at map, click settings and make sure everything will display. I for on did not know you can set map settings for when you look at map and for when you travel by shrine/"tartus stone" resulting in different displays. Sometimes in groups that moves fast and far its easier for me to display less as to not clutter the map so I can see group. Sometimes doing delves its easier to display everything. Set for current need.

squidprojectb14_ESO

Welcome to Cyrodiil, the best part of ESO! All of the above advice is good. I would like to add that at first you will die all the time. You will think you're getting one-shotted, but you're not. Experienced players know how to line up heavy burst attacks to all land at more or less the same time. An example is snipe, heavy attack, poison injection, crit rush, execute. The bow abilities will all land at more or less the same time, and it feels like a one-shot but it isn't. Fortunately this only really works if they see you first. So learn not to be seen first.

Capsaica

Welcome to PvP! Good advice for the most part in the previous posts. I highly recommend doing the tutorial quest. It will teach you about siege, how to travel in Cyrodiil, and the basics. As Publius suggested, go for the level 10-49 campaign. This will put you on a more level playing field with others, and there are often a decent number of people who will invite anyone into a group. Look to zone chat for people advertising "Type x for group," with "x" being whatever invite string they are using to add people to their group.

If you are on PC, you will want to consider downloading teamspeak and/or discord if you don't already have them. Both are voice comms programs which will allow you to communicate with other people by talking rather than typing. Often times, groups will only invite players if they have one of these programs. You usually do not have to have a microphone, just the ability to listen to commands.

Buy some fire ballistas and firepot trebuchets from the siege merchants for gold. Those are good starter siege until you earn enough AP to buy the other siege engines.

Upgrade your character's riding ability. Mount speed is crucial in Cyrodiil. Mount stamina is also important.

Have fun and good luck!

W0lf_z13

as previously stated Kyne is a VERY good place for you to start learning PvP ... granted there are some people that reroll in kyne to stay in there ( i was one of them but im getting to the point where im going to move on ) but the low level campaign is the best place to start to learn the map and everything ... there is ALOT to learn and understand about PvP so it will take some time to grasp everything

W0lf_z13

also... keep in mind that PvP is a completely "different animal" than Pve ... things that work well in PvE might not work as well in PvP and vice versa ... for example ... a lot of people run 5H/2m(2L) in Cyro ... esp in Kyne ... in the CP campaigns you can get away easier with not running 5H

gabriebe

If you're a level 27 DK, start in Kyne. It's pretty active usually, and disadvantages like not having a speedy horse (or any horse at all) are mitigated. Just type X or LFG in zone chat, if nobody answers then just make a group yourself.

Use the blue shrine in the middle of the base to fast travel.

Buy siege from the vendors inside every keep. Stone is for walls, rams for the front door only and fire for players.

Siege keep walls and front doors only, not the ornamental postern houses. On the inner keep walls, siege the wall bits around the side doors, not the side door itself.

Don't be afraid to ask for help, very often people will offer to craft you some gear if you ask nicely.

geonsocal

well @Noyack ...we are all eagerly awaiting to hear of your pvp exploits...

any interesting deaths yet?

Sylianwe

Cyrodiil can be rather confusing.

Although I'm CP 298, it's my first time there as well.

I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm just running around and exploring the environment.

When I see a group from my faction, I ask to join them and follow their lead. It's a good learning curve.

geonsocal

Malfoy wrote: »

I've just read through this entire thread. This is my first time in Cyrodiil as well. I'm CP 298. I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm just crafting, shopping, and enjoying nature.

Help.

Sincerely, one lost Dunmer.

what would you like to accomplish?

p00tx

Getting lost and confused your first time into Cyrodil is kind of a rite of passage. We've all been there. I was stuck for a week before I finally figured it out. I would suggest joining a PvP guild (you can find them on here in the guilds section) that uses voice chat to communicate. They can help you out.

Theignson

It takes a long time to get comfortable in PvP , doesn't it! But it is worth the investment. There is no other gaming experience like it. Sieging an enemy keep and engaging in a huge battle with a good opponent force is unlike anything else. Taking a keep after multiple fails in a 45 minute battle-- amazing.

Now if only they could solve the lag issue...

John_1999

just leave Cyrodiil, leave this cancer chees contest before its too late my friend.

prototypefb

you can also quest in cyro but rng is against you for things like scroll quest from Dortene, whoever coded 'rng' is a tool.
you will get tired of abandoning quest you don't want jus tto get exact same quest over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over untill you give up xD

Mintaka5

Great =/

Another *** DK in Cyrodiil.