Nerf the StamBlades's already, they only got small nerfs one after another, bring the big nerf now!!

Sosderosii

This is getting out of hand, I've been playing with all other classes and every time I meet a stamina NB I can't help but feel inferior by their sheer overpowerment.
Here are just two examples:

I was casually walking in Cyrodill like I own it(I deserve to, duh) with my High Elf Sorcerer when a pesky NB attacked me from the shadow and nearly got me to half HP by the time I stretched and pressed q and e, my damage shield shortcuts. But that wasn't the only OVERPOWERED trick up the NB's sleeve, soon as I remembered the button for my crystal shards, the OP NB started dodging each one of them with his OP dodge roll(luckily it was ninja-nerfed so that he was unable to use abilities or attacks inbetween dodges) I was growing impatient when he finally made a mistake and tried attacking me but my so underpowered crystal shard killed him as he didn't dodge roll. Good thing I am a pro player else that noob would have killed me with his OP Nightblade.

But this is not all, in another ocasion, while I was travelling with my much underpowered imperial Dragonknight, I was harassed by an OP Nightblade who attacked me for 5 minutes straight while I was forced to use my dragon blood once in a while to heal my wounds. If I only knew, I would have had my proc items to instakill that OP nightmare that was following me attacking and making me unable to mount my cool flaming horse. I was finally saved when a Templar from an opposing faction came into the play and chose him as his first target, killing the OP beast with ONE holy jesus beam, and then he left me alone after seeing we both couldn't even *** our health bars. Fun times, fun times indeed.


To summarize, these are the problems with this OP class in pvp, the stamina Nightblade:

-Too OP at most average burst damage
-The stealth ( it's not fair that they can have stealth ability and I can't, please nerf it some more even though it's already interrupted by everything intended and not intended but please don't make it useful to them by adding a remove negative effects again)
-Too average OP self healing, Vigor heals them too much, adding two full seconds to their infinite two second survivability in PVP. But I don't know about that, please nerf Vigor just for Nightblades, that would fix the problem better.
-Dodge Roll (Even with the fatigue and the 1 second+ disability from using any attacks or abilities after the roll animation is finished, this it faaar more than OP, please ninja-nerf it some more to add a 1 second unremovable root after the 1 second when the NB can't cast any abilities or even light attacks, that would balance things up, because I don't use it that much and I wouldn't care for those who do anyway).


Thank you Zenimax for reading this and I know you will listen and and don't listen to all those Nightblade lovers, so what if they quit ESO, it's not like I would get any money if they stay, just nerf this OP class to it's right place, the Rusty Argonian Nightblade, that class that is only good as a crafting alt and for thieves guild quests.

Brrrofski

I... don't even....

Runschei

I don't know where to start

Kodrac

Wait, what? In the other thread they said stamblades were so useless that they're only good for RPing the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So which is it? Useless or OP?

m2super_ESO

Brrrofski wrote: »

I... don't even....

I see your sarcasm detector is broken...

Sosderosii

Kodrac wrote: »

Wait, what? In the other thread they said stamblades were so useless that they're only good for RPing the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So which is it? Useless or OP?

They are OP, it's revolting that five of them can kill a tank DK with only 3 of them dying.

Brrrofski

m2super_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I... don't even....

I see your sarcasm detector is broken...

Nah, it works fine.

I just don't understand why people think stamblade is weak. In PvP it's been top 3 for well over a year.

Healing is a key complaint. Why you playing like a dk? You're not supposed to tank and outheal damage. Play your class like it's supposed to be played.

Sosderosii

Brrrofski wrote: »

m2super_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I... don't even....

I see your sarcasm detector is broken...

Nah, it works fine.

I just don't understand why people think stamblade is weak. In PvP it's been top 3 for well over a year.

Healing is a key complaint. Why you playing like a dk? You're not supposed to tank and outheal damage. Play your class like it's supposed to be played.

Brrrofski wrote: »

m2super_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I... don't even....

I see your sarcasm detector is broken...

Nah, it works fine.

I just don't understand why people think stamblade is weak. In PvP it's been top 3 for well over a year.

Healing is a key complaint. Why you playing like a dk? You're not supposed to tank and outheal damage. Play your class like it's supposed to be played.

Sadly I can't play it as it's supposed to be played because it is not able to burst down a weakened enemy and then get out alive. It doesn't work good for solo either, the enemy player, even in case is defeatable, the fight would take long enough for his allies to arrive. For big fights it's really useless, you rush to an enemy which self heals/uses shieds and then you're dead in the water as a Nightblade, with no realiable way to get out of there(your allies are fighting there also but you're the squishy target so you're focused). Honestly it's only good for chasing enemies after the fight is won or burning the enemy field camp if you're lucky enough that they don't pay attention.
I would be happy if they would just give NB's a high burst, expensive ultimate to assasinate the enemy's healer or other important but squishy and a way to survive while getting out of the kill zone.

Qbiken

Unless this post is ironicly written....

Sosderosii

Qbiken wrote: »

Unless this post is ironicly written....

It is, I guess not many people take time to read the wall of text after seeing the outrageous title.

LegacyDM

Hey can you post your experience with magicka nb? I mean at least stamina nb gets burst...

Zoner

Top kek

Galwylin

Two things need to be removed before that. Stealth and medium armor. There's no other use except to harass people. That's it. Nothing good comes from having a class whose sole ability is the harassment of players. Its griefing and it needs to stop. ZOS needs to stop listening to these parasites and just toss them. Don't get me started on dual weld and bow. Just so happen to be the nightblades chosen weapons. And why is that? Ask yourself, does this accomplish anything other than making other classes have to put up with a flurry in their face or chase down someone on the other side of the map? That's its. Stop encouraging grief players. Just stop it.

DHale

I must laugh now, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Done now... not funny. Most interesting learn to play post possibly ever.

mrdankles

Stamblade sucks. Bad. But yet so OP to the other classes...hella self heals, damage shields... Nice..

Sosderosii

LegacyDM wrote: »

Hey can you post your experience with magicka nb? I mean at least stamina nb gets burst...

My experience with magika NB is pretty good in terms of balance but I could not have no fun with it, it just seemed weird and unrelated to what the class should be. The survivability was good as I was anargonian and I used funnel health, light armor ability and three resto skills on a bar and on the other bar I used dot's and as ultimate, the vampire morph that allowed me to burst down players while teleporting to them multiple times
If it was too dangerous I could always stay back and heal my allies. Also I had enough magika to spam the stealth ability enough times that it would eventually work when in need of escape. Only thing I had to worry about is being focused by too many players or DK's that used reflecting scales.

That being said, I couldn't bring myself to see that class as a nightblade so I changed it back to stamina, that is when I discovered that after I dodge roll, I no longer was able to use any ability for about a second, in my opinion, that is the final nail in the coffin for the stamina nightblade.

Chibs

DHale wrote: »

I must laugh now, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Done now... not funny. Most interesting learn to play post possibly ever.

You hear that? Thats the sound of the joke going over your head.

Shadow_Viper_vX

Whenever someone is about to create a "nerf" thread, please pause and remember these three simple things. ;-)

It's Fine, Learn to Play

Adapt and Overcome

Stop Crying

deepseamk20b14_ESO

It's funny how many people are commenting based on reading the title and not the actual post. It goes to show you why ZoS doesn't bother listening to the playerbase.

nordickittyhawk

"I was casually walking in Cyrodill like I own it(I deserve to, duh) with my High Elf Sorcerer "

RealHeadhonchoe

I think we all know what's it's like when ZOS decided to do a big change...

SydneyGrey

If this post is serious, then, well, here's the thing ...
Nightblades are more powerful in PvP than in PvE, which means if you nerf them for PvP, you're pretty much destroying them and making them useless for PvE. They're already the weakest PvE class. (Debatable ...)

If this post is not serious, then LOL I guess.

mb10

Only thing that needs to be nerfed is your mouth

laksikus

LegacyDM wrote: »

Hey can you post your experience with magicka nb? I mean at least stamina nb gets burst...

mag nbs get buffed next patch.
we will be able to burst ourselfs down, once a templar uses eclipse on us and reflects every ability we can use

SneaK

Galwylin wrote: »

Two things need to be removed before that. Stealth and medium armor. There's no other use except to harass people. That's it. Nothing good comes from having a class whose sole ability is the harassment of players. Its griefing and it needs to stop. ZOS needs to stop listening to these parasites and just toss them. Don't get me started on dual weld and bow. Just so happen to be the nightblades chosen weapons. And why is that? Ask yourself, does this accomplish anything other than making other classes have to put up with a flurry in their face or chase down someone on the other side of the map? That's its. Stop encouraging grief players. Just stop it.

Wait, you are complaining about NBs "griefing" people with Flurry?

JinMori

Sosderosii wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Wait, what? In the other thread they said stamblades were so useless that they're only good for RPing the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So which is it? Useless or OP?

They are OP, it's revolting that five of them can kill a tank DK with only 3 of them dying.

Nb is a subpar class, what's revolting is the damage bonus from stealth (the 250 % damage bonus from crouch).

max_only

So much satire just gap closing over people's heads!

chaserstorm16909

Sosderosii wrote: »

This is getting out of hand, I've been playing with all other classes and every time I meet a stamina NB I can't help but feel inferior by their sheer overpowerment.
Here are just two examples:

I was casually walking in Cyrodill like I own it(I deserve to, duh) with my High Elf Sorcerer when a pesky NB attacked me from the shadow and nearly got me to half HP by the time I stretched and pressed q and e, my damage shield shortcuts. But that wasn't the only OVERPOWERED trick up the NB's sleeve, soon as I remembered the button for my crystal shards, the OP NB started dodging each one of them with his OP dodge roll(luckily it was ninja-nerfed so that he was unable to use abilities or attacks inbetween dodges) I was growing impatient when he finally made a mistake and tried attacking me but my so underpowered crystal shard killed him as he didn't dodge roll. Good thing I am a pro player else that noob would have killed me with his OP Nightblade.

But this is not all, in another ocasion, while I was travelling with my much underpowered imperial Dragonknight, I was harassed by an OP Nightblade who attacked me for 5 minutes straight while I was forced to use my dragon blood once in a while to heal my wounds. If I only knew, I would have had my proc items to instakill that OP nightmare that was following me attacking and making me unable to mount my cool flaming horse. I was finally saved when a Templar from an opposing faction came into the play and chose him as his first target, killing the OP beast with ONE holy jesus beam, and then he left me alone after seeing we both couldn't even *** our health bars. Fun times, fun times indeed.


To summarize, these are the problems with this OP class in pvp, the stamina Nightblade:

-Too OP at most average burst damage
-The stealth ( it's not fair that they can have stealth ability and I can't, please nerf it some more even though it's already interrupted by everything intended and not intended but please don't make it useful to them by adding a remove negative effects again)
-Too average OP self healing, Vigor heals them too much, adding two full seconds to their infinite two second survivability in PVP. But I don't know about that, please nerf Vigor just for Nightblades, that would fix the problem better.
-Dodge Roll (Even with the fatigue and the 1 second+ disability from using any attacks or abilities after the roll animation is finished, this it faaar more than OP, please ninja-nerf it some more to add a 1 second unremovable root after the 1 second when the NB can't cast any abilities or even light attacks, that would balance things up, because I don't use it that much and I wouldn't care for those who do anyway).


Thank you Zenimax for reading this and I know you will listen and and don't listen to all those Nightblade lovers, so what if they quit ESO, it's not like I would get any money if they stay, just nerf this OP class to it's right place, the Rusty Argonian Nightblade, that class that is only good as a crafting alt and for thieves guild quests.

Great post!. Check out mine from a few weeks ago. Clearly we have similar complaints.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/330141/in-regards-to-magblades#latest

a1i3nz

Is this a troll post or is OP another whiney pleb like everyone else responsible for all the nerfs?

LadyDestiny

<SIGH>

Sosderosii

chaserstorm16909 wrote: »

Sosderosii wrote: »

This is getting out of hand, I've been playing with all other classes and every time I meet a stamina NB I can't help but feel inferior by their sheer overpowerment.
Here are just two examples:

I was casually walking in Cyrodill like I own it(I deserve to, duh) with my High Elf Sorcerer when a pesky NB attacked me from the shadow and nearly got me to half HP by the time I stretched and pressed q and e, my damage shield shortcuts. But that wasn't the only OVERPOWERED trick up the NB's sleeve, soon as I remembered the button for my crystal shards, the OP NB started dodging each one of them with his OP dodge roll(luckily it was ninja-nerfed so that he was unable to use abilities or attacks inbetween dodges) I was growing impatient when he finally made a mistake and tried attacking me but my so underpowered crystal shard killed him as he didn't dodge roll. Good thing I am a pro player else that noob would have killed me with his OP Nightblade.

But this is not all, in another ocasion, while I was travelling with my much underpowered imperial Dragonknight, I was harassed by an OP Nightblade who attacked me for 5 minutes straight while I was forced to use my dragon blood once in a while to heal my wounds. If I only knew, I would have had my proc items to instakill that OP nightmare that was following me attacking and making me unable to mount my cool flaming horse. I was finally saved when a Templar from an opposing faction came into the play and chose him as his first target, killing the OP beast with ONE holy jesus beam, and then he left me alone after seeing we both couldn't even *** our health bars. Fun times, fun times indeed.


To summarize, these are the problems with this OP class in pvp, the stamina Nightblade:

-Too OP at most average burst damage
-The stealth ( it's not fair that they can have stealth ability and I can't, please nerf it some more even though it's already interrupted by everything intended and not intended but please don't make it useful to them by adding a remove negative effects again)
-Too average OP self healing, Vigor heals them too much, adding two full seconds to their infinite two second survivability in PVP. But I don't know about that, please nerf Vigor just for Nightblades, that would fix the problem better.
-Dodge Roll (Even with the fatigue and the 1 second+ disability from using any attacks or abilities after the roll animation is finished, this it faaar more than OP, please ninja-nerf it some more to add a 1 second unremovable root after the 1 second when the NB can't cast any abilities or even light attacks, that would balance things up, because I don't use it that much and I wouldn't care for those who do anyway).


Thank you Zenimax for reading this and I know you will listen and and don't listen to all those Nightblade lovers, so what if they quit ESO, it's not like I would get any money if they stay, just nerf this OP class to it's right place, the Rusty Argonian Nightblade, that class that is only good as a crafting alt and for thieves guild quests.

Great post!. Check out mine from a few weeks ago. Clearly we have similar complaints.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/330141/in-regards-to-magblades#latest

Just the thought that an army of magblades can always be near, hidden in their OP infinite cloaks, making plans on when and how to scare me and my poor DK and then run away like cowards makes my bones chill.

Those sneaky *** just wait for you to go AFK a few minutes so they can cheat their way into unjust victory!