PS4 N/A Battleground Team Prep

Hatoreehanzo

A few of us on AD Scourge were debating makeups of 4 man teams for the upcoming battlegrounds last night while resource farming. I know everyone has their close group of friends, but has anyone else put together their all star line ups or considered other options?

Waffennacht

It's difficult when you can't find any enemies to test against

geonsocal

@Hatoreehanzo ...good question, not sure the typical tank/healer/2 dps will work best...

is a tank really even effective in pvp small scale group?

were you thinking more in line with group class/resource focus makeup?

Hatoreehanzo

Waffennacht wrote: »

It's difficult when you can't find any enemies to test against

Yeah Scourge for AD has been overwhelmed by people. I still do alright farming solo or in a small group though. Just have to find the right spots. Debated making a red just to help them but my 8 slots are all AD with the 4 classes stam/mag and justifying slot purchases will be two for Warden.

Hatoreehanzo

geonsocal wrote: »

@Hatoreehanzo ...good question, not sure the typical tank/healer/2 dps will work best...

is a tank really even effective in pvp small scale group?

were you thinking more in line with group class/resource focus makeup?

I have no idea what to expect. I could see 4 magplars being tough, but not sure if zos is limiting anything like class choices. As for a tank, I wouldn't role one unless it's a healer. Tanks might distract in open world and take some pressure, but in small groups I always find myself wanting self sufficient dps. I'm thinking 1 healer 3 dps might be best.

Moglijuana

All the main players in my guild are all suited up and ready to go on multiple characters . Should be fun.

Top consensus atm in guild chat has been 1 healer/3 dps will get the most work done.

Hatoreehanzo

Moglijuana wrote: »

All the main players in my guild are all suited up and ready to go on multiple characters . Should be fun.

Top consensus atm in guild chat has been 1 healer/3 dps will get the most work done.

That's what I'm thinking. Maybe even four do if everyone can hold their own.

geonsocal

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

Hutch679

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they are non-champion point, then I doubt people would wear heavy. Light and medium realllllllllly shine with out champion points.

geonsocal

Hutch679 wrote: »

If they are non-champion point, then I doubt people would wear heavy. Light and medium realllllllllly shine with out champion points.

good stuff @Hutch679 ...i didn't know that...man, it's getting to the point were each character needs to have at least 3 or 4 different sets to use (including monster and jewelry sets)...sustain, damage, defense with a mixture of armor types...

this thread has me even more hyped for jumping into action...

KingJ

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

Hutch679

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

Idk about "best". I'm 100% positive that we won't know what works best until people get to really try some things out. Sustain is going to be very important, so is CC. I can magical dks being EXTREMELY powerful using sustain sets because they can CC the cap out if everything.

RebornV3x

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

Hutch679

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

4 tanks is a terrible idea.... it's not 4v4... it's 4v4v4, if there are 4 tanks on one team, you can bet that the two other teams will gang up on you or just completely not even worry about you considering the damage output will be pathetic. I have a feeling scoring will be kill based. No kills means you lose. 4 tanks won't be viable. Way to think inside the box smdh....

Hutch679

A balanced group will be the best. High sustain tank healer probably a templar, a magical dk for CC, a stamp dps and a magical dps most likely. Magicka and stamina sorcerer will be very well off, templar of all kinds will be useful, the new warden class will for sure be useful, and even Nightblades have their purpose. Any combination can work depending on who is holding the keyboard or controller

Metemsycosis

Dk, Stam nb, magicka Templar, magicka sorc.

Stam nb plus sorc = unstoppable force
Magicka Templar plus dk = immovable object

Hatoreehanzo

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Dk, Stam nb, magicka Templar, magicka sorc.

Stam nb plus sorc = unstoppable force
Magicka Templar plus dk = immovable object

I'm thinking something in line with this.

Magplar: Pirate 2p, Transmutation 5p, Hvy Kag 5p, Master Resto.
Sorc: Amberplasm 5p, Necro 5p, Maelstrom Destroyed/Resto.
Stamblade: Med Eternal/BonePirate 5p, Krag 1p, Veli/Kena 1p, Agility 3p, Maelstrom 2h, Master Bow
StamDK: Fasalla 5p, TrollKing/BS 2p, Agility 3p, Maelstrom 2h, SnB 2p Max Stam.

This all depends if they're cutting down reduction. If so, I'd opt for a little more sustain.

Moglijuana

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

KingJ

Moglijuana wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

@Moglijuana I don't really see NB in general being good in BG. They are to squishy if they don't Nerf stam sorc they probably be better off running that in there Place or at the very least stamplar. Rest of the point I agree with you with.

Also haven't fought many good magic dk who run only light and not instant bursted.

Moglijuana

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

@Moglijuana I don't really see NB in general being good in BG. They are to squishy if they don't Nerf stam sorc they probably be better off running that in there Place or at the very least stamplar. Rest of the point I agree with you with.

Also haven't fought many good magic dk who run only light and not instant bursted.

Good stamblades will be key for that incap. I only know of two stamblades in the whole Ps4/NA server that I will end up taking, and they are very tanky.

I honestly don't know any other light armor mag dks either besides myself lolol. But I don't get bursted

Strider_Roshin

My guild is doing 1 tank, 3 DPS. An optimal setup IMO.

KingJ

Moglijuana wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

@Moglijuana I don't really see NB in general being good in BG. They are to squishy if they don't Nerf stam sorc they probably be better off running that in there Place or at the very least stamplar. Rest of the point I agree with you with.

Also haven't fought many good magic dk who run only light and not instant bursted.

Good stamblades will be key for that incap. I only know of two stamblades in the whole Ps4/NA server that I will end up taking, and they are very tanky.

I honestly don't know any other light armor mag dks either besides myself lolol. But I don't get bursted

It depends against another StamNb I will only get hit with 1 maybe 2 incap the entire fight and we will be fighting for a while. Are those NB running medium or heavy?

Most NB on Xbox don't duel if they know there going against a lot of good players near or equal to there skill level they go another class. For example tournament they will switch to there magsorc,stamdk or sorc.

Yea NB i see will probably have the lowest NB of people using in competitive groups .

Moglijuana

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

@Moglijuana I don't really see NB in general being good in BG. They are to squishy if they don't Nerf stam sorc they probably be better off running that in there Place or at the very least stamplar. Rest of the point I agree with you with.

Also haven't fought many good magic dk who run only light and not instant bursted.

Good stamblades will be key for that incap. I only know of two stamblades in the whole Ps4/NA server that I will end up taking, and they are very tanky.

I honestly don't know any other light armor mag dks either besides myself lolol. But I don't get bursted

It depends against another StamNb I will only get hit with 1 maybe 2 incap the entire fight and we will be fighting for a while. Are those NB running medium or heavy?

Most NB on Xbox don't duel if they know there going against a lot of good players near or equal to there skill level they go another class. For example tournament they will switch to there magsorc,stamdk or sorc.

Yea NB i see will probably have the lowest NB of people using in competitive groups .

The two that I know run medium armor. And they will only duel on stamblade. Anthonymike1 & Junebuggey , you can look em up on YT.

But yes I will agree that Stam NB will probably be an unpopular class for BG's. I'm curious to see if ZOS will implement some changes in their skills to help groups out more with the upcoming balance changes.

Hatoreehanzo

Moglijuana wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

@Moglijuana I don't really see NB in general being good in BG. They are to squishy if they don't Nerf stam sorc they probably be better off running that in there Place or at the very least stamplar. Rest of the point I agree with you with.

Also haven't fought many good magic dk who run only light and not instant bursted.

Good stamblades will be key for that incap. I only know of two stamblades in the whole Ps4/NA server that I will end up taking, and they are very tanky.

I honestly don't know any other light armor mag dks either besides myself lolol. But I don't get bursted

It depends against another StamNb I will only get hit with 1 maybe 2 incap the entire fight and we will be fighting for a while. Are those NB running medium or heavy?

Most NB on Xbox don't duel if they know there going against a lot of good players near or equal to there skill level they go another class. For example tournament they will switch to there magsorc,stamdk or sorc.

Yea NB i see will probably have the lowest NB of people using in competitive groups .

The two that I know run medium armor. And they will only duel on stamblade. Anthonymike1 & Junebuggey , you can look em up on YT.

But yes I will agree that Stam NB will probably be an unpopular class for BG's. I'm curious to see if ZOS will implement some changes in their skills to help groups out more with the upcoming balance changes.

You're leaving out a hell of a lot of other good stamblades. June I know and enjoy fighting, not sure who Anthony is.

Hutch679

4 vicious death/clever alchemist magicka sorcs.

Moglijuana

Hatoreehanzo wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

I'm guessing sustain sets will be an absolute must...i wonder if everyone will be wearing mostly heavy...

If they actually get rid of the cost reduction champion point passives, then yes, people will either wear sustainable heavy sets with low damage, or go back to light/medium. I prefer the light alternative as it is what I play with now on live anyways

KingJ wrote: »

Best setup would be 1 magplar dps off healer 1 magsorc (Destro ultimate) and either 2 stamplar or 1 stamplar 1 stamdk.I would say magic DK but not sure how they will be with the cost reduction removal with their reliance on heavy armor they might be in trouble.

I haven't run heavy armor since One Tamriel =P.

Popular groups will be Magplar, Magsorc, Stamblade, DK (Mag or Stam). I would say warden has a place, but they can go either way it seems.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I got you 4 blazing shield templar tanks with 70k+ health casting guard on one another you can't be killed easily this will be amazing im CTF and other game modes

For tdm 4 mag Nightblades with destro ults you could go with a mag templar and 3 nbs if you need more heal if anything goes wrong just cloak away and regroup

Even 3 sorc 1 temp will be really strong too

Something close to this will probably end up being the meta

None of those comps would last against competent groups doe lol.

@Moglijuana I don't really see NB in general being good in BG. They are to squishy if they don't Nerf stam sorc they probably be better off running that in there Place or at the very least stamplar. Rest of the point I agree with you with.

Also haven't fought many good magic dk who run only light and not instant bursted.

Good stamblades will be key for that incap. I only know of two stamblades in the whole Ps4/NA server that I will end up taking, and they are very tanky.

I honestly don't know any other light armor mag dks either besides myself lolol. But I don't get bursted

It depends against another StamNb I will only get hit with 1 maybe 2 incap the entire fight and we will be fighting for a while. Are those NB running medium or heavy?

Most NB on Xbox don't duel if they know there going against a lot of good players near or equal to there skill level they go another class. For example tournament they will switch to there magsorc,stamdk or sorc.

Yea NB i see will probably have the lowest NB of people using in competitive groups .

The two that I know run medium armor. And they will only duel on stamblade. Anthonymike1 & Junebuggey , you can look em up on YT.

But yes I will agree that Stam NB will probably be an unpopular class for BG's. I'm curious to see if ZOS will implement some changes in their skills to help groups out more with the upcoming balance changes.

You're leaving out a hell of a lot of other good stamblades. June I know and enjoy fighting, not sure who Anthony is.

Anthonymike1 is basically the same NB as June. Just on AD. I haven't really run into any other good stamblades unfortunately =/

Hatoreehanzo

What faction are you on?

Moglijuana

Hatoreehanzo wrote: »

What faction are you on?

AD mainly. I play DC every now and then since my crafter is on there.

Hatoreehanzo

In game name?

Moglijuana

Hatoreehanzo wrote: »

In game name?

It's in my signature lol. As is the guild I'm VP in.

Hatoreehanzo

Ah ok I was in mobile view. Hit me up if you enjoy small group AP farming.