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The Skill which shall not be named

utb99
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Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.
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  • Minno
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Solar Barage- the skill that does less range and costs more than impulse, that shares an empower buff you get similar to using inner light (which pulls nightblades out of stealth+ add max mag+mag rec....) And does 1.5k dmg before dmg reduction/armor in cyro..



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  • RajinPVP
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    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.
  • Koolio
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    I absolutely love this move. Loved it before then it got needed but now it's back and better. After getting used to it the utility is amazing and satisfying.

  • Derra
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    How can you put tomb over crystal blast for sorc :open_mouth:
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  • Tryxus
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    I'd have thought Leeching Strikes to be the most unused skill of the NB. Manifestion is rather decent, would've been better with 1 or 2 more traps tho... (3 around the NB, 1 freely placed)
    Edited by Tryxus on 3 April 2017 21:00
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  • technohic
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    For solar barrage; the dame for the magic cost is mediocre, the radius is pathetic and if you are close enough to use it, you surely are also going to use sweeps and the empower solar barrage gives you does not apply to the entire sweep follow up.


    Last time I saw it used effectively was long before 1.6 and before shield nerfs. Blazing shields burst would get buffed by it. It's probably been over 2 years
  • GilGalad
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    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    Soul trap has one morph that gives back 10% of each ressource when killing a mob during the dot duration and it hits 3 targets. If you use it to pull mobs when grinding it's extremely useful especially on lower levels. It's like a magicka version of vicious ophidian or the dominion axes, so you don't need to worry about sustain and heals if you are killing stuff fast enough.
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  • Joy_Division
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Speaking for myself, I stopped bringing up craptastic morphs because I got tired of being told by players with far less experience than I that I had no idea of what I was talking about and failed to appreciate its nuanced virtues.

    With Solar Barrage specifically, I had a PvE tank tell me that it was a good spell to grab aggro .. apparently because Caltops, a spell with a much wider and longer lasting AoE, is worse?

    But if you are looking for bad morphs, Solar Barrage I'm not sure is in the top 3. Crystal Blast. From the Templar's own skilline, Total Dark is probably the most inefficient skill in the entire game. Power Slam is terrible in comparison to reverb bash. Blessing of Restoration will get you kicked out of raids. The worst is probably Elemental Susceptibility. Who can't keep up a 20 second buff?
  • Cathexis
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    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    Right now blood alter is one of the most OP PVP abilities in the game.

    I'm not kidding. It just has nothing to do with what it actually does.


    As for soul trap, it used to be an amazing pvp ability, you could use it to kill deer/other animals to drain back an instant 9% health/mag/stam.
    Edited by Cathexis on 3 April 2017 22:34
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  • EmEm_Oh
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    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    Which brings up the subject of empty soul gems. I have over 100 of them (sold and/or destroyed countless more), waiting to become something. Too bad we can't deconstruct 10 of them to become 1 soul gem.
    Edited by EmEm_Oh on 3 April 2017 22:51
  • Waffennacht
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    The Original Daedric Tomb was OP

    Insta cast, spammable usually could hit someone with two mines at once dealing over 10k dmg, with roots.
    Gees I miss it.
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  • Ahzek
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    Derra wrote: »
    How can you put tomb over crystal blast for sorc :open_mouth:


    You stole my comment.
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    Ahzek wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    How can you put tomb over crystal blast for sorc :open_mouth:


    You stole my comment.

    Nobody complains about crystal blast because ZOS' backwards idea of 'fixing' that will likely give frags/blast the 'wrecking blow' treatment: One morph get the CC, the other gets the proc and extra damage.

    I'd rather the designers not touch it at all because I don't trust them.
    Edited by Minalan on 3 April 2017 23:15
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    EmEm_Oh wrote: »
    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    Which brings up the subject of empty soul gems. I have over 100 of them (sold and/or destroyed countless more), waiting to become something. Too bad we can't deconstruct 10 of them to become 1 soul gem.



    Just go to a dolmen farm and tag as many things as you can. They'll fill up in a hurry.
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    I'm glad someone took the time to criticize Leeching Strikes, lol. What does the morph give as a buff? The skill becomes a toggle, so you don't have to hit square every 21 seconds. The cost? A 20% reduction to weapon AND spell power.

    What a dip[poop] ability. In exchange for a single button mash every 21 seconds you give up power that requires 144 champion points to recoup.

    Er...let me weight this...do I want 144 CPs, or do I want to bypass a button push every 21'seconds? This is a hard choice! Can someone tag Wroebel and the dev team?? I need internal performance numbers before I can figure out the math on whether giving up 144 champion points to save a few button mashes makes sense.


    @EmEm_Oh For empty soul gems I spend a point in the passivemthe has a 10% chance to fill it when you kill an enemy. It's a skill point...but skill points are cheap. I sell my stacks of filled soul gems for $10k/200 in the stores.
    Edited by davey1107 on 4 April 2017 02:45
  • Runschei
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    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    I use blood altar on my tank when we do no healer runs. It is great
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    Sturdy Warhorn much? It's not a class skill, but I haven't actually heard anyone pick that morph :D
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Sturdy Warhorn much? It's not a class skill, but I haven't actually heard anyone pick that morph :D

    Oh that one I see quite often when I do nMoL farming with pugs
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    Runschei wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    Sturdy Warhorn much? It's not a class skill, but I haven't actually heard anyone pick that morph :D

    Oh that one I see quite often when I do nMoL farming with pugs

    Probably because healers don't have a spot on their bar for Blessing of Restoration - Combat Prayer is just meta, and using it labels you as "elitist" from the outset - because they have to slot that strong solar barrage to boost group DPS. I bet they also put blue ribbons around everyone, and the melee DDs leave green little runes every time they roll dodge ;)
    Edited by Asardes on 4 April 2017 10:38
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  • Draxys
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    Ugh fragmented shield.... I miss frag shield spam meta
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  • Eweroun
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Runschei wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    Sturdy Warhorn much? It's not a class skill, but I haven't actually heard anyone pick that morph :D

    Oh that one I see quite often when I do nMoL farming with pugs

    Probably because healers don't have a spot on their bar for Blessing of Restoration - Combat Prayer is just meta, and using it labels you as "elitist" from the outset - because they have to slot that strong solar barrage to boost group DPS. I bet they also put blue ribbons around everyone, and the melee DDs leave green little runes every time they roll dodge ;)

    You know how much DPS thos little runes do? Man... why shouldn't you use them?... :D
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  • utb99
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    Derra wrote: »
    How can you put tomb over crystal blast for sorc :open_mouth:

    I see Crystal Blast pretty often when I'm being zerged. Not saying its good, just saying its not as rare as Daedric Tomb

    I didn't include "bad morphs" just morphs that I almost never see (so they're pretty much bad by default)
    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Speaking for myself, I stopped bringing up craptastic morphs because I got tired of being told by players with far less experience than I that I had no idea of what I was talking about and failed to appreciate its nuanced virtues.

    With Solar Barrage specifically, I had a PvE tank tell me that it was a good spell to grab aggro .. apparently because Caltops, a spell with a much wider and longer lasting AoE, is worse?

    But if you are looking for bad morphs, Solar Barrage I'm not sure is in the top 3. Crystal Blast. From the Templar's own skilline, Total Dark is probably the most inefficient skill in the entire game. Power Slam is terrible in comparison to reverb bash. Blessing of Restoration will get you kicked out of raids. The worst is probably Elemental Susceptibility. Who can't keep up a 20 second buff?

    I see people use Total Dark. The only situation where its good is in a duel with a Magicka Sorcerer or Nightblade, even then its meh.
    Solar Barrage is useless in every situation.
    Edited by utb99 on 4 April 2017 11:11
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  • SirCritical
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    EmEm_Oh wrote: »
    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    Which brings up the subject of empty soul gems. I have over 100 of them (sold and/or destroyed countless more), waiting to become something. Too bad we can't deconstruct 10 of them to become 1 soul gem.

    Then here comes that useless Oblivion set to mind :)
  • NBrookus
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    Runschei wrote: »
    b4nn3d7337 wrote: »
    Donteven get me started with blood altar and soul trap... i mean ... they can take those 2 skils out of the game and no one would even noticed.

    I use blood altar on my tank when we do no healer runs. It is great

    Combine Blood Altar with Path and it's quite a lot of healing. I had a spot on my bars on my sap tank, added it as a joke one day and went "hmmm."
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Speaking for myself, I stopped bringing up craptastic morphs because I got tired of being told by players with far less experience than I that I had no idea of what I was talking about and failed to appreciate its nuanced virtues.

    With Solar Barrage specifically, I had a PvE tank tell me that it was a good spell to grab aggro .. apparently because Caltops, a spell with a much wider and longer lasting AoE, is worse?

    But if you are looking for bad morphs, Solar Barrage I'm not sure is in the top 3. Crystal Blast. From the Templar's own skilline, Total Dark is probably the most inefficient skill in the entire game. Power Slam is terrible in comparison to reverb bash. Blessing of Restoration will get you kicked out of raids. The worst is probably Elemental Susceptibility. Who can't keep up a 20 second buff?

    I murdered myself to Total Dark once. Only time I've ever seen it used, I was wondering how the guy bursted me so fast, then on the recap it showed my heavy attack, poison injection(tick), draining shot. That skill is so freaking niche that its ignored by everyone. It shuts down any true ranged builds though entirely.
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  • Joy_Division
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Speaking for myself, I stopped bringing up craptastic morphs because I got tired of being told by players with far less experience than I that I had no idea of what I was talking about and failed to appreciate its nuanced virtues.

    With Solar Barrage specifically, I had a PvE tank tell me that it was a good spell to grab aggro .. apparently because Caltops, a spell with a much wider and longer lasting AoE, is worse?

    But if you are looking for bad morphs, Solar Barrage I'm not sure is in the top 3. Crystal Blast. From the Templar's own skilline, Total Dark is probably the most inefficient skill in the entire game. Power Slam is terrible in comparison to reverb bash. Blessing of Restoration will get you kicked out of raids. The worst is probably Elemental Susceptibility. Who can't keep up a 20 second buff?

    I murdered myself to Total Dark once. Only time I've ever seen it used, I was wondering how the guy bursted me so fast, then on the recap it showed my heavy attack, poison injection(tick), draining shot. That skill is so freaking niche that its ignored by everyone. It shuts down any true ranged builds though entirely.

    All you have to do is CC break and then you gain immunity from it and all CC effects for 7 seconds.
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Speaking for myself, I stopped bringing up craptastic morphs because I got tired of being told by players with far less experience than I that I had no idea of what I was talking about and failed to appreciate its nuanced virtues.

    With Solar Barrage specifically, I had a PvE tank tell me that it was a good spell to grab aggro .. apparently because Caltops, a spell with a much wider and longer lasting AoE, is worse?

    But if you are looking for bad morphs, Solar Barrage I'm not sure is in the top 3. Crystal Blast. From the Templar's own skilline, Total Dark is probably the most inefficient skill in the entire game. Power Slam is terrible in comparison to reverb bash. Blessing of Restoration will get you kicked out of raids. The worst is probably Elemental Susceptibility. Who can't keep up a 20 second buff?

    I murdered myself to Total Dark once. Only time I've ever seen it used, I was wondering how the guy bursted me so fast, then on the recap it showed my heavy attack, poison injection(tick), draining shot. That skill is so freaking niche that its ignored by everyone. It shuts down any true ranged builds though entirely.

    All you have to do is CC break and then you gain immunity from it and all CC effects for 7 seconds.

    Aha I see, good to know, never encountered it in combat before, never needed to know it. After I encountered it I read the tooltip and thought it was ridiculously OP versus any ranged build, did not know it could be negated with CC break.
    Edited by Toc de Malsvi on 5 April 2017 14:11
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    Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Templar's are evil..
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    DPS skill morphs that no one uses:
    2H: Forward momentum
    2W: Whirling Blades
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Asardes wrote: »
    DPS skill morphs that no one uses:
    2H: Forward momentum
    2W: Whirling Blades

    Forward Momentum is amazing for pvp if you've got a stam build that doesn't need the burst heal from rally. If you've got vigor, forward momentum, blood craze, and troll king that's enough HoTs that you can probably not need rally(in heavy).

    Huge snare immunity on a heavy armor build? yes please
    Edited by Lexxypwns on 5 April 2017 15:02
  • technohic
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    utb99 wrote: »
    Every class has that one skill or morph that almost never sees the light of day
    Sorcs have Daedric Tomb (I see this every now and then but its rare)
    DKs have Fragmented Shield (tbh both morphs look the same so I can't really tell them apart in the chaos of Cyrodiil but I'm certain Obsidian is far more popular)
    Nightblades have Manifestation of Terror (I see this maybe half a dozen times each patch and its always amusing)
    But there is one morph which is all elusive, one which draws confusion even among veterans upon seeing this skill.
    This is.... Solar Barrage. I showed this skills to some of my friends who like I have played for a while (we have around 800 CP to put in some perspective) and they had no idea what move that was.
    I've played ESO since 1.6, I have NEVER seen any templar uses this morph. Hell I've seen unmorphed Solar Flare a couple of times. Even Healing Ritual and its subpar morphs see more use than SB. Maybe I saw a lvl 12 Templar in a zerg using Solar Barrage, but thats probably only because he chose the wrong morph and he didn't have the gold to respec...
    Literally the only other class ability I think is worse and less used is Leeching Strikes! Honestly both these skills are so under the radar I don't see any mention of them on the forums lol.

    Speaking for myself, I stopped bringing up craptastic morphs because I got tired of being told by players with far less experience than I that I had no idea of what I was talking about and failed to appreciate its nuanced virtues.

    With Solar Barrage specifically, I had a PvE tank tell me that it was a good spell to grab aggro .. apparently because Caltops, a spell with a much wider and longer lasting AoE, is worse?

    But if you are looking for bad morphs, Solar Barrage I'm not sure is in the top 3. Crystal Blast. From the Templar's own skilline, Total Dark is probably the most inefficient skill in the entire game. Power Slam is terrible in comparison to reverb bash. Blessing of Restoration will get you kicked out of raids. The worst is probably Elemental Susceptibility. Who can't keep up a 20 second buff?

    I murdered myself to Total Dark once. Only time I've ever seen it used, I was wondering how the guy bursted me so fast, then on the recap it showed my heavy attack, poison injection(tick), draining shot. That skill is so freaking niche that its ignored by everyone. It shuts down any true ranged builds though entirely.

    All you have to do is CC break and then you gain immunity from it and all CC effects for 7 seconds.

    Aha I see, good to know, never encountered it in combat before, never needed to know it. After I encountered it I read the tooltip and thought it was ridiculously OP versus any ranged build, did not know it could be negated with CC break.

    You're going to get Joy started. OP if you couldn't break free; garbage when you learn you can. Because we all need OP tools at fighting players that dont know.
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