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Heavy gear and magplars
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LordSlif✭✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
I see lot of people talking nonsense about templars and im sure they never played with magplars. BoL and heavy only... please the silence is the most beautiful poetry.
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✭✭✭✭✭So many things are broken and exploitable in this game I hardly think a heavy magplar is an issue or overpowered... especially since once you run circles around them they lose like all dps since they cannot sweep you.
It's incredibly annoying to fight someone running around you as a Templar. Unless they running soulstrike or destro ult you should be fine.
Finally someone realized that PvP damage dealing on magplar is the worst among classes, especially in snares and roots. Funny thing that fine damage is coming only with group play - when mates charge your Backlash and drop target's health allowing you to beam it.
I hardly solo on my magplar and if I do it's with troll king, I use soulshine so I take advantage of that 85k soul assault, that's what u get for not allowing me to get off my sweeps.
Tip: remove that toppling charge. If you really must use a gap closer use explosive charge.
Here's why, as templar you need to play to ur biggest strength - radiant glory. The cc immunity from toppling lets them block and defend while beaming, to be effective you javelin before you beam, very little counter play. So all you really got to do is get em down a little, javelin then beam.
What do you use with soul shine though? I find lich ineffective because you constantly need mist.
Oh I don't use mist, dropped vampire since homestead coz of all the mag dk(25% is a lot to give them). I use SnB reflect now as well as dawnbreaker/ empowering sweep/ Spell wall instead of bats. Gonna look into other stuff like harness or blazing shield and infernal guardian
I dropped vampire as well. You need HA to make it work and mist form is too much of a crutch. Made a build that lets me run around while still having 38k mag, 10k pen, and 2k min sd. And I dropped BoL; I'm tired of pretending it's a Templar class defining ability.
Currently got my dampen magic ward at 9k in PvP too
. My Regen takes a hit, but I have a few tricks up my sleeve. Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Reefo✭✭✭So many things are broken and exploitable in this game I hardly think a heavy magplar is an issue or overpowered... especially since once you run circles around them they lose like all dps since they cannot sweep you.
It's incredibly annoying to fight someone running around you as a Templar. Unless they running soulstrike or destro ult you should be fine.
Finally someone realized that PvP damage dealing on magplar is the worst among classes, especially in snares and roots. Funny thing that fine damage is coming only with group play - when mates charge your Backlash and drop target's health allowing you to beam it.
I hardly solo on my magplar and if I do it's with troll king, I use soulshine so I take advantage of that 85k soul assault, that's what u get for not allowing me to get off my sweeps.
Tip: remove that toppling charge. If you really must use a gap closer use explosive charge.
Here's why, as templar you need to play to ur biggest strength - radiant glory. The cc immunity from toppling lets them block and defend while beaming, to be effective you javelin before you beam, very little counter play. So all you really got to do is get em down a little, javelin then beam.
What do you use with soul shine though? I find lich ineffective because you constantly need mist.
Oh I don't use mist, dropped vampire since homestead coz of all the mag dk(25% is a lot to give them). I use SnB reflect now as well as dawnbreaker/ empowering sweep/ Spell wall instead of bats. Gonna look into other stuff like harness or blazing shield and infernal guardian
I dropped vampire as well. You need HA to make it work and mist form is too much of a crutch. Made a build that lets me run around while still having 38k mag, 10k pen, and 2k min sd. And I dropped BoL; I'm tired of pretending it's a Templar class defining ability.
Currently got my dampen magic ward at 9k in PvP too. My Regen takes a hit, but I have a few tricks up my sleeve.
It is a Templar defining ability lol
I have 2 slots but too many abilities to add
Defensive stance(love that reflect)
Harness magicka(love that shield/sustain)
Purifying light(love that boom)
Entropy(don't use in group with dk)
Shards(love that 10% crit heal + utility)
So difficult
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LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭Hopefully the cp nerfs, which I see as a blessing and a curse at the same time, may discourage many to use heavy armor, especially cheeseplars0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So many things are broken and exploitable in this game I hardly think a heavy magplar is an issue or overpowered... especially since once you run circles around them they lose like all dps since they cannot sweep you.
It's incredibly annoying to fight someone running around you as a Templar. Unless they running soulstrike or destro ult you should be fine.
Finally someone realized that PvP damage dealing on magplar is the worst among classes, especially in snares and roots. Funny thing that fine damage is coming only with group play - when mates charge your Backlash and drop target's health allowing you to beam it.
I hardly solo on my magplar and if I do it's with troll king, I use soulshine so I take advantage of that 85k soul assault, that's what u get for not allowing me to get off my sweeps.
Tip: remove that toppling charge. If you really must use a gap closer use explosive charge.
Here's why, as templar you need to play to ur biggest strength - radiant glory. The cc immunity from toppling lets them block and defend while beaming, to be effective you javelin before you beam, very little counter play. So all you really got to do is get em down a little, javelin then beam.
What do you use with soul shine though? I find lich ineffective because you constantly need mist.
Oh I don't use mist, dropped vampire since homestead coz of all the mag dk(25% is a lot to give them). I use SnB reflect now as well as dawnbreaker/ empowering sweep/ Spell wall instead of bats. Gonna look into other stuff like harness or blazing shield and infernal guardian
I dropped vampire as well. You need HA to make it work and mist form is too much of a crutch. Made a build that lets me run around while still having 38k mag, 10k pen, and 2k min sd. And I dropped BoL; I'm tired of pretending it's a Templar class defining ability.
Currently got my dampen magic ward at 9k in PvP too. My Regen takes a hit, but I have a few tricks up my sleeve.
It is a Templar defining ability lol
I have 2 slots but too many abilities to add
Defensive stance(love that reflect)
Harness magicka(love that shield/sustain)
Purifying light(love that boom)
Entropy(don't use in group with dk)
Shards(love that 10% crit heal + utility)
So difficult
The BoL is not the defining ability, purge & skills that give teammates stamina/resources are the defining abilities. Not to mention a group wide minor spell dmg buff with a dmg ability that teammates can add dmg to which will also heal after the effect ends.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
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THEDKEXPERIENCE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So many things are broken and exploitable in this game I hardly think a heavy magplar is an issue or overpowered... especially since once you run circles around them they lose like all dps since they cannot sweep you.
It's incredibly annoying to fight someone running around you as a Templar. Unless they running soulstrike or destro ult you should be fine.
Finally someone realized that PvP damage dealing on magplar is the worst among classes, especially in snares and roots. Funny thing that fine damage is coming only with group play - when mates charge your Backlash and drop target's health allowing you to beam it.
I hardly solo on my magplar and if I do it's with troll king, I use soulshine so I take advantage of that 85k soul assault, that's what u get for not allowing me to get off my sweeps.
Tip: remove that toppling charge. If you really must use a gap closer use explosive charge.
Here's why, as templar you need to play to ur biggest strength - radiant glory. The cc immunity from toppling lets them block and defend while beaming, to be effective you javelin before you beam, very little counter play. So all you really got to do is get em down a little, javelin then beam.
What do you use with soul shine though? I find lich ineffective because you constantly need mist.
Oh I don't use mist, dropped vampire since homestead coz of all the mag dk(25% is a lot to give them). I use SnB reflect now as well as dawnbreaker/ empowering sweep/ Spell wall instead of bats. Gonna look into other stuff like harness or blazing shield and infernal guardian
I dropped vampire as well. You need HA to make it work and mist form is too much of a crutch. Made a build that lets me run around while still having 38k mag, 10k pen, and 2k min sd. And I dropped BoL; I'm tired of pretending it's a Templar class defining ability.
Currently got my dampen magic ward at 9k in PvP too. My Regen takes a hit, but I have a few tricks up my sleeve.
It is a Templar defining ability lol
I have 2 slots but too many abilities to add
Defensive stance(love that reflect)
Harness magicka(love that shield/sustain)
Purifying light(love that boom)
Entropy(don't use in group with dk)
Shards(love that 10% crit heal + utility)
So difficult
The BoL is not the defining ability, purge & skills that give teammates stamina/resources are the defining abilities. Not to mention a group wide minor spell dmg buff with a dmg ability that teammates can add dmg to which will also heal after the effect ends.
You PVE guys are so cute. Especially when you venture into Cyrodiil and get melted by Radiant Oppression.
If BoL isn't the "defining skill" then it's certainly RO.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »So many things are broken and exploitable in this game I hardly think a heavy magplar is an issue or overpowered... especially since once you run circles around them they lose like all dps since they cannot sweep you.
It's incredibly annoying to fight someone running around you as a Templar. Unless they running soulstrike or destro ult you should be fine.
Finally someone realized that PvP damage dealing on magplar is the worst among classes, especially in snares and roots. Funny thing that fine damage is coming only with group play - when mates charge your Backlash and drop target's health allowing you to beam it.
I hardly solo on my magplar and if I do it's with troll king, I use soulshine so I take advantage of that 85k soul assault, that's what u get for not allowing me to get off my sweeps.
Tip: remove that toppling charge. If you really must use a gap closer use explosive charge.
Here's why, as templar you need to play to ur biggest strength - radiant glory. The cc immunity from toppling lets them block and defend while beaming, to be effective you javelin before you beam, very little counter play. So all you really got to do is get em down a little, javelin then beam.
What do you use with soul shine though? I find lich ineffective because you constantly need mist.
Oh I don't use mist, dropped vampire since homestead coz of all the mag dk(25% is a lot to give them). I use SnB reflect now as well as dawnbreaker/ empowering sweep/ Spell wall instead of bats. Gonna look into other stuff like harness or blazing shield and infernal guardian
I dropped vampire as well. You need HA to make it work and mist form is too much of a crutch. Made a build that lets me run around while still having 38k mag, 10k pen, and 2k min sd. And I dropped BoL; I'm tired of pretending it's a Templar class defining ability.
Currently got my dampen magic ward at 9k in PvP too. My Regen takes a hit, but I have a few tricks up my sleeve.
It is a Templar defining ability lol
I have 2 slots but too many abilities to add
Defensive stance(love that reflect)
Harness magicka(love that shield/sustain)
Purifying light(love that boom)
Entropy(don't use in group with dk)
Shards(love that 10% crit heal + utility)
So difficult
The BoL is not the defining ability, purge & skills that give teammates stamina/resources are the defining abilities. Not to mention a group wide minor spell dmg buff with a dmg ability that teammates can add dmg to which will also heal after the effect ends.
You PVE guys are so cute. Especially when you venture into Cyrodiil and get melted by Radiant Oppression.
If BoL isn't the "defining skill" then it's certainly RO.
Lol the amusement park salt is real.
If another class/weapon line has the same spell/effects, it's not class defining. And mostly you need to use it to declare you are of the class you play.
DK have the same instant heal. BoL is not CD since you can use other spells for healing and still be considered a templar (healing ward for example).
Templar having a healing tree his class defining. But even the passives themselves are kinda in the resto tree (low health, Major mending from potions/other class skills, etc.)
Repentance is CD. Free Stam/health on dead people.
Shards is CD. Only spamable Stam return for other players. Though mostly for pve.
RO is templar specific. It's the only ranged execute channel in the game that does extra dmg based on how much magicka you have when you cast it.
Purifying light is specific to the temps; no other class has access to a burst spell that other classes can add dmg to.
Purifying Ritual is CD.
Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid0 -
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Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trollsWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]4 -
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✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Then they better do that for Vigor too, in that case.Edited by Idinuse on 2 April 2017 19:11Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?1 -
Methariorn✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Yes just BoL and Heavy Armor, plus rune of focus, ritual or purge, cast entropy to boost spell power, be rdt with radian for finisher, trow some javeling to shake pressure from a friend, be rdy to mist form when hell is on your ass...yes just BoF monoskill.Methariorn sorc EU server AD
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Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭Methariorn wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Yes just BoL and Heavy Armor, plus rune of focus, ritual or purge, cast entropy to boost spell power, be rdt with radian for finisher, trow some javeling to shake pressure from a friend, be rdy to mist form when hell is on your ass...yes just BoF monoskill.
Yep. With just bol they can be. Plus all those skills make it a ubfair fight pmsl. Tenplars shouldnt be able to do it. There's no way any class should be able to be a tank dps healer all in 10 -
Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Then they better do that for Vigor too, in that case.
I wouldnt say vigir because its not a burst heal and it doesnt heal much in pvp anyway0 -
Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭
Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trolls
Sorcs got no heals exept healing ward. Most sorcs use light gear . Theyr shield are easily overcome. Cloak you can counter so easily. And with dk you can just kill his friend then go for him. Bol he can heal his friends aswell and you need to press a botton once or twice. You must like the templar lol0 -
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Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trolls
And as for rally. It takes a while beforenyou can burst heal with it. Why do temllars act stupid ? Is it to keep your op class0 -
Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »
Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trolls
And as for rally. It takes a while beforenyou can burst heal with it. Why do temllars act stupid ? Is it to keep your op class
Why do you keep posting ignorance? Is it to spread a false message when all we're hearing is "git gud?"Edited by Ron_Burgundy_79 on 5 April 2017 13:332 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Methariorn wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Yes just BoL and Heavy Armor, plus rune of focus, ritual or purge, cast entropy to boost spell power, be rdt with radian for finisher, trow some javeling to shake pressure from a friend, be rdy to mist form when hell is on your ass...yes just BoF monoskill.
Yep. With just bol they can be. Plus all those skills make it a ubfair fight pmsl. Tenplars shouldnt be able to do it. There's no way any class should be able to be a tank dps healer all in 1
If they are a combination of the 3, they are not great in any. I can't remember the last time I said to myself "Wow. I got nuked by that templar." The ones that are tanky, don't hit very hard. The ones that can really heal at annoying levels, can be burst down pretty quick or worn out of resources. Unless you are in a CP campaign; but then you have all sorts of issues beyond Templar or heavy armor.0 -
LordSlif✭✭✭✭Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »
Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trolls
And as for rally. It takes a while beforenyou can burst heal with it. Why do temllars act stupid ? Is it to keep your op class
Why do you keep posting ignorance? Is it to spread a false message when all we're hearing is "git gud?"
im sure he dn't have a magplar1 -
Reefo✭✭✭The funny thing is that I feel Stam dk is easy mode pvp so I don't play it. Mag dk is super strong this patch i dunno whether it's battle leveling or what but I wreck with my 44 in duels and CP pvp. Dk with the built in tripot I'm not sure how that is not OP.0
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Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »
Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trolls
And as for rally. It takes a while beforenyou can burst heal with it. Why do temllars act stupid ? Is it to keep your op class
Why do you keep posting ignorance? Is it to spread a false message when all we're hearing is "git gud?"
Btw yes i have a magplar. And its super easy to make a healer tank dps. Im not sending false messages and i did say originaly this is not a rage post. Anyway with the coat reduction getting a nurf using heavy isnt gonna be as easy or the meta anymore. If your on ps4 eu come for a duel il show you get gud. And i do not use meta0 -
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✭Honestly there are light armor setups currently that outperform the heavy ones. You dont have to be in hvy armor to run malubeth and reactive. In the end we will have to see what the cp implementations do to resource management come Morrowind release."Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."0 -
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✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
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AAbrigo✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »Honestly there are light armor setups currently that outperform the heavy ones. You dont have to be in hvy armor to run malubeth and reactive. In the end we will have to see what the cp implementations do to resource management come Morrowind release.
Yes, but PVP is all about survival. You cant do any dps as a dead person and magplars dont have the same benefits like sorcs with shields..0 -
Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »
Streak + shield stack = back to full healthDk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »There should be something with breath of life that decreases the healing done if the user is wearing heavy gear. That way healers and still be healers but templars cant be a tank healer and dps
Have you checked the latest patch notes for Dragon's Blood by chance? Your DK can wear heavy too you know.
Everything you are complaining about templars applies to DKs this patch ... because ZoS (finally) listened to you forum name.
Not complaining. And my name is from many months ago when dk was crap. Bol is to good fot pvp and allows the healer dps wixh shouldnt be there
I find your argument funny because;
1- healers don't really have any means of dps
2- you claim that they have and it should't be possible... Well by the same logic, then all other builds should have crap heals because they have damage!
Don't say me that every single meta build isn't a 3in1 tank dps and healer of himself already.
Dude all they need is breath of life and heavy gear. There we go we have a dps healer tank templar. You probobly play magplar and will be a trash player when its nurfed
Only BoL and heavy, really? Here we have a guy who has no clue how to play magplar.
Yes really pmsl. 1 or 2 bol health at full. Then comes the big dps. Eavryone has seen it dony act stupid
Cloak + shield stack = back to full health
Block/dodge/cloak/streak + rally + vigor = back to full health
Block + searing strike + dragon blood = back to full health
What is your point again?
All classes have ways to achieve big fat heals as BoL and have same level of tankiness. Purify is way better than BoL btw just saying. So if you target that, you may have some supporters at least.
But yeah trolls gonna be trolls
And as for rally. It takes a while beforenyou can burst heal with it. Why do temllars act stupid ? Is it to keep your op class
Why do you keep posting ignorance? Is it to spread a false message when all we're hearing is "git gud?"
Btw yes i have a magplar. And its super easy to make a healer tank dps. Im not sending false messages and i did say originaly this is not a rage post. Anyway with the coat reduction getting a nurf using heavy isnt gonna be as easy or the meta anymore. If your on ps4 eu come for a duel il show you get gud. And i do not use meta
Unfortunately I'm on Xbox NA. Otherwise I'd be happy to take you up on that offer.0
