Worst open world class [HomeStead]

arkansas_ESO

Mageblade

LeifErickson wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

I'd have to say MagDK just because they're damage is garbage in open world. They do not make good 1vxers, my friend plays stamina dragonknight and I keep telling him that MagDK is not good open world but he always has to say "Oh but Deltias said this, or SypherPk said that", I made him a build for his stamdk, he is poor as hell, this build is successful, then guess what he does? He switches builds 4 times in one week which really pisses me off because the one that I told him to wear was working, and also because he is always begging me for materials. I'm getting kind of tired of it.

MagDK > stamDK in every aspect

Sorry but what? Stam dk is one of the best classes in the game.

How so? I haven't played stam DK in a long time, but from the perspective of a magblade stam DK is probably the easiest stam class to fight.

Also lol @ magblade having almost 50% of the votes. GG ZOS

Emmagoldman

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

MagSorc so underpowered atm. I think mSorc needs even more pet and class damage and defensive buffs. Those nasy mDKs, and stamblades keep touching me in places I never knew I had till now.

Put defensive rune on your third bar. It helps between movements from location to location. It's a great skill! You'll get hit with an arrow then see an encased ganker

zuto40

Stamblade

nb's have 66% of votes currently, 100%balanced am i right?

Strider_Roshin

Stam dk

zuto40 wrote: »

nb's have 66% of votes currently, 100%balanced am i right?

Lol yeah Nightblades as a whole need some love.

Lucky28

Mageblade

Magblade.

Favorite class but cloak still doesn't work well, soul harvest got nerfed twice because Incap is OP our heals kinda got screwed over as well.

would be nice if our heals could double dip again (i mean it's not like we have Templar level heals so it's not that big a deal for our heals to be a little bit stronger) and funnel health should get un-nerfed, funnel health used to be so fun in groups.

FearlessOne_2014

Mag sorc

Emmagoldman wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

MagSorc so underpowered atm. I think mSorc needs even more pet and class damage and defensive buffs. Those nasy mDKs, and stamblades keep touching me in places I never knew I had till now.

Put defensive rune on your third bar. It helps between movements from location to location. It's a great skill! You'll get hit with an arrow then see an encased ganker

Yeah however my new sorc is only level 39 now

https://youtu.be/yLVCIUJsyfU?t=2s

As seen here mage sorc needs the most immediate buffs out of the group. Please @Wrobel buff mag sorcs.

Torbschka

Stam sorc

Stamina sorc, please buff (make dark deal instant PLZ, thank you)

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xD

CatchMeTrolling

Magplar

I rather play on my magblade rather than my magplar for solo pvp. Magplars still lack mobility which plays a big part in 1vxing, on my magblade I can reposition & control the fight the way I want it to be.

Feel like magblade has the highest skill cap in the game but I don't feel like they're the worst solo class.

Magplar is still arguably the worst solo class, it's why you rarely see a predominantly solo magplar in-game or in streams. While the worst small group class is pretty relative.

Plus people's opinions is bias in this game, everyone wants to be a jack of all trades & that's how they judge a class. So you have NBs expecting to face tank like a stam dk.

Izaki

Depends on how good you are with each class.

Nightblades are the hardest by far.

UppGRAYxDD

Magplar

For Solo 1vX: magplar lacks good cc and slow mobility; and Magblade(non bomber)

small group: could be any class

Isellskooma

Mageblade

MagNb needs some help, not Magdk like buffs, that was over buffed. But in my opinion all it needs is more survivability. Damage is fine, sustain fine. Oh and StamNb, that's just harder now, but i would love if there was a stam path of darkness with the healing.

Cadbury

Mageblade

Actually, NB in general need help. Sad to see as magblade is such a fun class

Emmagoldman

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Emmagoldman wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

MagSorc so underpowered atm. I think mSorc needs even more pet and class damage and defensive buffs. Those nasy mDKs, and stamblades keep touching me in places I never knew I had till now.

Put defensive rune on your third bar. It helps between movements from location to location. It's a great skill! You'll get hit with an arrow then see an encased ganker

Yeah however my new sorc is only level 39 now

As seen here mage sorc needs the most immediate buffs out of the group. Please @Wrobel buff mag sorcs.

TBH: I don't think we need to be buffed, but to be decent at magsorc takes a lot of work. There's a big learning curve and big difference between mag sorcs. You'll be focused more then anyone because we can be an "easy kill". I think a lot of stamblades where/are very use to the last several months of being able to one shot everything in this game with proc sets that crit and hit hard as a trunk and now that this isn't as easy to do, they are pretty salty.

I suggest putting hardened ward on bar one and harness on bar two. I didn't see any shields on your set up and that's a big big no no for mag sorc. You could use some heavy armor sets and you may be able to get away with one shield. You will also need to get use to using your buffs on third bar.

Chair

Mageblade

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Strider_Roshin

Stam dk

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Chair

Mageblade

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Stamblade is perfectly fine ATM im enjoying mine and feel no difference between my pre homestead one at all.

zuto40

Stamblade

Chair wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Stamblade is perfectly fine ATM im enjoying mine and feel no difference between my pre homestead one at all.

idk about you but i wouldnt mind my cloak working

Chair

Mageblade

zuto40 wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Stamblade is perfectly fine ATM im enjoying mine and feel no difference between my pre homestead one at all.

idk about you but i wouldnt mind my cloak working

My cloak is actually fine :c

Hutch679

Mdk

Where you going magdk? No where. You ain't going NO WHEREEEEEE! Where you goin?

Solariken

Magplar

Magplar is the least effective solo open world class, but that is totally fine because they are OPAF in a group.

alexj4596b14_ESO

Mageblade

Mageblade period, fix our heals...PLEASE right now we are just too squishy

NBrookus

Mdk

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Nellzer wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

I'd have to say MagDK just because they're damage is garbage in open world. They do not make good 1vxers, my friend plays stamina dragonknight and I keep telling him that MagDK is not good open world but he always has to say "Oh but Deltias said this, or SypherPk said that", I made him a build for his stamdk, he is poor as hell, this build is successful, then guess what he does? He switches builds 4 times in one week which really pisses me off because the one that I told him to wear was working, and also because he is always begging me for materials. I'm getting kind of tired of it.

MagDK > stamDK in every aspect

Sometimes I wonder if we're all playing the same game.

Open world, by definition, implies you're rarely/never fighting 1v1, almost always 1vX or small group.

1vX, stamDK is worlds better than mDK, like...not even remotely close. Even 1v1 is close, but stamDK imo is superior here as well.

mDKs are very strong in small groups, but probably marginally ahead of stamDK.

mDKs got a nice buff but overall they're still just 'meh.' Very little burst and any decent player will proactively heal through all of your DoT damage.

So you think a tanking proc set stamDK is more effective at 1vX than a tanky Destro Ult + Enhale + Talons spamming magDK? Yeah there's a world of a difference alright, and it's in the magDKs favor.

If a stam DK is sitting there block spamming Ransack with Tremorscale, they are just going to die slower in 1vX and usually 1v1. That kind of build doesn't begin to utilize what stamDK is capable of.

zuto40

Stamblade

Chair wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Stamblade is perfectly fine ATM im enjoying mine and feel no difference between my pre homestead one at all.

idk about you but i wouldnt mind my cloak working

My cloak is actually fine :c

ive had mine broken by: poison arrow, ransack, dizzying swing, incap, surprise attack, executioner, and radiant destruction. Just this week, idk if its cause im laggy, or if its broken, but i dont like it

Strider_Roshin

Stam dk

Chair wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Stamblade is perfectly fine ATM im enjoying mine and feel no difference between my pre homestead one at all.

We've been nerfed since homestead (evasion, unchained, and cost increase for Incap). Whereas all of magicka got buffed, and Stamplars got a strong buff. Stamblades were comparable to the other classes pre-homestead, but when everyone else got buffed, stamblades became subpar in comparison.

thankyourat

Mageblade

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Nellzer wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

I'd have to say MagDK just because they're damage is garbage in open world. They do not make good 1vxers, my friend plays stamina dragonknight and I keep telling him that MagDK is not good open world but he always has to say "Oh but Deltias said this, or SypherPk said that", I made him a build for his stamdk, he is poor as hell, this build is successful, then guess what he does? He switches builds 4 times in one week which really pisses me off because the one that I told him to wear was working, and also because he is always begging me for materials. I'm getting kind of tired of it.

MagDK > stamDK in every aspect

Sometimes I wonder if we're all playing the same game.

Open world, by definition, implies you're rarely/never fighting 1v1, almost always 1vX or small group.

1vX, stamDK is worlds better than mDK, like...not even remotely close. Even 1v1 is close, but stamDK imo is superior here as well.

mDKs are very strong in small groups, but probably marginally ahead of stamDK.

mDKs got a nice buff but overall they're still just 'meh.' Very little burst and any decent player will proactively heal through all of your DoT damage.

So you think a tanking proc set stamDK is more effective at 1vX than a tanky Destro Ult + Enhale + Talons spamming magDK? Yeah there's a world of a difference alright, and it's in the magDKs favor.

I think stam dk is better than mag dk. Every Stam class will be better than their magicka counterpart for solo PvP because the dynamics of solo PvP better fit the stamina playstyle. It's easier for stamina builds to reposition and they have better more easily accessible burst damage. Which are two of the most important things when playing solo PvP. As for what makes Stam dk better than mag dk for solo PvP is it hits twice as hard while being just as tanky and has acsess to a gap closer and a execute. This is just for solo play I feel group play is the complete opposite with magicka being much better

Strider_Roshin

Stam dk

thankyourat wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Nellzer wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

I'd have to say MagDK just because they're damage is garbage in open world. They do not make good 1vxers, my friend plays stamina dragonknight and I keep telling him that MagDK is not good open world but he always has to say "Oh but Deltias said this, or SypherPk said that", I made him a build for his stamdk, he is poor as hell, this build is successful, then guess what he does? He switches builds 4 times in one week which really pisses me off because the one that I told him to wear was working, and also because he is always begging me for materials. I'm getting kind of tired of it.

MagDK > stamDK in every aspect

Sometimes I wonder if we're all playing the same game.

Open world, by definition, implies you're rarely/never fighting 1v1, almost always 1vX or small group.

1vX, stamDK is worlds better than mDK, like...not even remotely close. Even 1v1 is close, but stamDK imo is superior here as well.

mDKs are very strong in small groups, but probably marginally ahead of stamDK.

mDKs got a nice buff but overall they're still just 'meh.' Very little burst and any decent player will proactively heal through all of your DoT damage.

So you think a tanking proc set stamDK is more effective at 1vX than a tanky Destro Ult + Enhale + Talons spamming magDK? Yeah there's a world of a difference alright, and it's in the magDKs favor.

I think stam dk is better than mag dk. Every Stam class will be better than their magicka counterpart for solo PvP because the dynamics of solo PvP better fit the stamina playstyle. It's easier for stamina builds to reposition and they have better more easily accessible burst damage. Which are two of the most important things when playing solo PvP. As for what makes Stam dk better than mag dk for solo PvP is it hits twice as hard while being just as tanky and has acsess to a gap closer and a execute. This is just for solo play I feel group play is the complete opposite with magicka being much better

You are either incredibly bias or ignorant. The magDK is stupid OP and the stamDK is garbage in comparison.

thankyourat

Mageblade

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Nellzer wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

I'd have to say MagDK just because they're damage is garbage in open world. They do not make good 1vxers, my friend plays stamina dragonknight and I keep telling him that MagDK is not good open world but he always has to say "Oh but Deltias said this, or SypherPk said that", I made him a build for his stamdk, he is poor as hell, this build is successful, then guess what he does? He switches builds 4 times in one week which really pisses me off because the one that I told him to wear was working, and also because he is always begging me for materials. I'm getting kind of tired of it.

MagDK > stamDK in every aspect

Sometimes I wonder if we're all playing the same game.

Open world, by definition, implies you're rarely/never fighting 1v1, almost always 1vX or small group.

1vX, stamDK is worlds better than mDK, like...not even remotely close. Even 1v1 is close, but stamDK imo is superior here as well.

mDKs are very strong in small groups, but probably marginally ahead of stamDK.

mDKs got a nice buff but overall they're still just 'meh.' Very little burst and any decent player will proactively heal through all of your DoT damage.

So you think a tanking proc set stamDK is more effective at 1vX than a tanky Destro Ult + Enhale + Talons spamming magDK? Yeah there's a world of a difference alright, and it's in the magDKs favor.

I think stam dk is better than mag dk. Every Stam class will be better than their magicka counterpart for solo PvP because the dynamics of solo PvP better fit the stamina playstyle. It's easier for stamina builds to reposition and they have better more easily accessible burst damage. Which are two of the most important things when playing solo PvP. As for what makes Stam dk better than mag dk for solo PvP is it hits twice as hard while being just as tanky and has acsess to a gap closer and a execute. This is just for solo play I feel group play is the complete opposite with magicka being much better

You are either incredibly bias or ignorant. The magDK is stupid OP and the stamDK is garbage in comparison.

I think stam dk is the best class in the game. I can kite a mag dk all day. Mag dk still has open world problems it's op in duels and great in group play but it's not all that great for solo play. But I agree mag dk is op. I been thought it was op before the buffs. I just think stam dk is on another level than the rest of the classes it's just so solid. it also has twice the burst damage as a mag dk, better healing and mobility, and an execute. The only thing mag dk had over Stam is crowd control. Both classes are op. But there is no way to counter a stam dk it literally has everything

kaithuzar

Mageblade

Magblade does need help, however, I think most people are getting the wrong idea.
It doesn't need extra heals, it doesn't even need cloak to be perfect, although it should be, it needs damage increase on things like concealed strike. It needs double take to better than shuffle, it needs major expedition to be faster than sprinting.
It needs a reason to be duel wield again in this destro meta.

-Kai

Strider_Roshin

Stam dk

thankyourat wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Nellzer wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kidz_BeAstx wrote: »

I'd have to say MagDK just because they're damage is garbage in open world. They do not make good 1vxers, my friend plays stamina dragonknight and I keep telling him that MagDK is not good open world but he always has to say "Oh but Deltias said this, or SypherPk said that", I made him a build for his stamdk, he is poor as hell, this build is successful, then guess what he does? He switches builds 4 times in one week which really pisses me off because the one that I told him to wear was working, and also because he is always begging me for materials. I'm getting kind of tired of it.

MagDK > stamDK in every aspect

Sometimes I wonder if we're all playing the same game.

Open world, by definition, implies you're rarely/never fighting 1v1, almost always 1vX or small group.

1vX, stamDK is worlds better than mDK, like...not even remotely close. Even 1v1 is close, but stamDK imo is superior here as well.

mDKs are very strong in small groups, but probably marginally ahead of stamDK.

mDKs got a nice buff but overall they're still just 'meh.' Very little burst and any decent player will proactively heal through all of your DoT damage.

So you think a tanking proc set stamDK is more effective at 1vX than a tanky Destro Ult + Enhale + Talons spamming magDK? Yeah there's a world of a difference alright, and it's in the magDKs favor.

I think stam dk is better than mag dk. Every Stam class will be better than their magicka counterpart for solo PvP because the dynamics of solo PvP better fit the stamina playstyle. It's easier for stamina builds to reposition and they have better more easily accessible burst damage. Which are two of the most important things when playing solo PvP. As for what makes Stam dk better than mag dk for solo PvP is it hits twice as hard while being just as tanky and has acsess to a gap closer and a execute. This is just for solo play I feel group play is the complete opposite with magicka being much better

You are either incredibly bias or ignorant. The magDK is stupid OP and the stamDK is garbage in comparison.

I think stam dk is the best class in the game. I can kite a mag dk all day. Mag dk still has open world problems it's op in duels and great in group play but it's not all that great for solo play. But I agree mag dk is op. I been thought it was op before the buffs. I just think stam dk is on another level than the rest of the classes it's just so solid. it also has twice the burst damage as a mag dk, better healing and mobility, and an execute. The only thing mag dk had over Stam is crowd control. Both classes are op. But there is no way to counter a stam dk it literally has everything

Alright I can agree with this for the most part.

Chair

Mageblade

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Chair wrote: »

llololol @ everyone voting for stamblade as worst XD

Nah it's not the worst but I'd put it down there with magblade, and stamDK.

Stamblade is perfectly fine ATM im enjoying mine and feel no difference between my pre homestead one at all.

We've been nerfed since homestead (evasion, unchained, and cost increase for Incap). Whereas all of magicka got buffed, and Stamplars got a strong buff. Stamblades were comparable to the other classes pre-homestead, but when everyone else got buffed, stamblades became subpar in comparison.

In no means stamblade is still extremely strong :P I have no issues with stamplars now or pre hoemstead at all neither mag sorcs no issue at all.

Yes we saw some nerfs but they barely impacted us @Grumble_and_Grunt Can back me up on this one.