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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

Learning blueprint are tied to the player level ?!? i am lv 22 and keep saying my level is too low

  • Danikat
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    Wolfborn wrote: »
    With your low level crafter characters. Cant you have a work around just by power leveling them up to 50 in an hour or two ?

    I suppose so. The problem for me is that I've never power levelled a character and apart from it having something to do with grind spots which players seem very protective of (keeping them secret and yelling at anyone else who shows up there) I have no idea what's involved.

    I suppose I probably could find out, but I'd much prefer that ZOS fix the bug than require everyone with a dedicated crafter to grind up to level 50. Or potentially the CP cap since we don't know yet if CP levels affect this as well.
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  • Slurg
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    heaven13 wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    Disabling plans from being traded at all will generate a lot of animosity from players with high level crafters who are not having any problem at all and want to be able to continue selling the plans we don't want in order to buy the ones we do want.

    But I'm all for the development team giving this problem their attention and fixing it asap (hotfix if possible) so low level crafters can actually use the plans they purchase, or if there is a level attached to the plan, display it so you know before you buy it.

    At least some kind of notice should be posted about this being a known issue in the meantime so you guys don't spend gold on something you can't use yet.

    That's true too. I actually saw a plan I wanted earlier and would have bought it, but the seller had over 200 CP and I haven't even hit 50, so I held off. If I at least know the bug and can work around it with that knowledge, okay.

    Then you get the jerks that give 0 ****. Someone was trying to sell a plan for over 30k in one of the zone chats. I mentioned the bug and his response was "not my problem, selling isn't bugged".

    I'd be fine with some sort of warning or something so the above doesn't happen. Hopefully most of the lower level crafters don't have enough money yet to be dropping 30 and 50k on a single plan that they can't use.

    Well to be fair to the guy who was trying to sell his, despite his flippant response, for a lot of us, this isn't bugged and most people aren't going to voluntarily stop trading things upon hearing a few people are having this issue when it works just fine for them. I have used at least 10 plans I obtained from at least half a dozen other players of different levels so far with no problems. I have not tried farming on one character and passing it to another character yet, though. I surely will submit a ticket if I experience that or any other problem, and I hope everyone is submitting tickets and bug reports.
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  • Iron_Butterfly
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm afraid I have to shoot the current theory down. Tonight, my thief (level 19) *ahem* acquired at least two recipes that my crafter (level 31) was unable to learn, receiving the same "Your level isn't high enough" message.

    So, it is not necessarily tied to higher level characters passing recipes to lower.

    That's exactly what I found too - with lvl 38 and 48 characters - the lvl 38 couldn't learn the recipes found by my lvl 48.


    That's why I posted that level seems to be irrelevant my the original post. We really need to hear from Zenimax on this issue - I have submitted a request to support.

    No, that's exactly the same problem other people reported. Your crafter is a lower level than the character who found the recipe.

    Basically the way it seems to be working is that when you pick up a recipe it's assigned a hidden level requirement at that characters level. So when your level 48 character picked up a recipe it became a level 48 recipe. When you tried to give it to a level 38 character (10 levels lower) they were unable to use it.

    The only report so far which is different is BlackSparrow's.

    Well that's really silly - hidden levels on recipes makes it impossible to buy and sell them on the AH.
  • Iron_Butterfly
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Wolfborn wrote: »
    With your low level crafter characters. Cant you have a work around just by power leveling them up to 50 in an hour or two ?

    I suppose so. The problem for me is that I've never power levelled a character and apart from it having something to do with grind spots which players seem very protective of (keeping them secret and yelling at anyone else who shows up there) I have no idea what's involved.

    I suppose I probably could find out, but I'd much prefer that ZOS fix the bug than require everyone with a dedicated crafter to grind up to level 50. Or potentially the CP cap since we don't know yet if CP levels affect this as well.

    Agree - rather silly to make everyone level their lower level crafters to 50 just so they can use a recipe...Zenimax needs to fix it so that the level of the recipe is visible.
  • BlackSparrow
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm afraid I have to shoot the current theory down. Tonight, my thief (level 19) *ahem* acquired at least two recipes that my crafter (level 31) was unable to learn, receiving the same "Your level isn't high enough" message.

    So, it is not necessarily tied to higher level characters passing recipes to lower.

    That's exactly what I found too - with lvl 38 and 48 characters - the lvl 38 couldn't learn the recipes found by my lvl 48.


    That's why I posted that level seems to be irrelevant my the original post. We really need to hear from Zenimax on this issue - I have submitted a request to support.

    No, that's exactly the same problem other people reported. Your crafter is a lower level than the character who found the recipe.

    Basically the way it seems to be working is that when you pick up a recipe it's assigned a hidden level requirement at that characters level. So when your level 48 character picked up a recipe it became a level 48 recipe. When you tried to give it to a level 38 character (10 levels lower) they were unable to use it.

    The only report so far which is different is BlackSparrow's.

    :/

    I don't think I'm mistaken, but the fact that I'm the only one who experienced this is off-putting. Thing is, I specifically remember pickpocketing one of my broken patterns on my level 19, because it was a Nord pattern found in Daggerfall, so I looked up to see that the NPC I'd taken it from was a Nord and thought "Ah, that makes sense." I am 95% sure this pattern was taken by my level 19 and yet is still telling my 31 she wasn't high enough level... but alas, human memory isn't perfect, so I suppose we should continue with the prevailing theory for now.

    I think I'll start tracking what level the finder is when I pick up a pattern, at least for the duration of this bug.

    I hope I'm not the only one reporting this. I'm on the third auto-reply to my ticket. Eventually, someone has to get through to an actual person. XP
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    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
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    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
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  • ohaphazardo
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    I am having the same issue. Please get it sorted as I have a nearly empty mansion
  • Lauranae
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    The problem is still there, and worst it happens even between 2 high characters :smile:

    I am CP 385, my husband is CP 378, I send him a recipe that i looted, and .... says he is too low to learn it .......

    So, my lv 22 crafter can not learn any of the recipes i loot with my main, i can not give the double to my husband ....

    i was so tired to wait that i am leveling all craftings on my main ..... thanks so much for the trouble ........
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Lauranae wrote: »
    I am CP 385, my husband is CP 378, I send him a recipe that i looted, and .... says he is too low to learn it .......

    O_o

    How is that a thing? If this is based off Provisioning in the back-end, you'd think it would cap at CP160. Blaaaaargh. :s

    I'm beginning to think this is account-based. Like, once you get this message once, other recipes start bugging out regardless of level. *throws theories wildly at the wall*
    Edited by BlackSparrow on 9 February 2017 17:50
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    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

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  • RogueDM
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    I have had the same trouble, seems the level of the character looting the recipe is the bug. I have a 50 NB that looted several furnishing plans, I went to learn them on the appropriate crafter and was unable to, though I qualified according to the blueprint requirements. I played some on a lvl 13 character, and found a copy of the same exact plan. I gave it to my crafter, tried once again to learn the previously found plan, still a no go. Tried to learn the recipe found by my lvl 13 and learned it easily.

    Repeated the experiment on my provisioner as well. A maxed provisioner, only level 28 could not learn one provisoner plan requirement 2 (looted by a lvl 50), but the second one (looted by a lvl 13) was easily learned.

    Not sure if this proves the finding character level is the bug, but its pretty damning evidence of such.

    I have reported this problem, but have yet to receive an answer other than the automatic acknowledgement.

    Hope this is of assistance to you all.
  • Serelir
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    I'm having the same issue. Found plans with my level 21 character and passed them to my level 10 who has the required woodworking skill, but I couldn't use the recipe even though it showed green for the crafting skill level (Woodworking 4).
  • Shadowshire
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    Wolfborn wrote: »
    With your low level crafter characters. Cant you have a work around just by power leveling them up to 50 in an hour or two?
    Basically, that is not feasible to do in the amount of time that you believe it can be done -- that is, the PC's Experience Level is just one aspect of whether a PC can learn a Diagram, Pattern, or Blueprint to craft furnishings. (Which is not to say that the effect of a PC's Experience Level with regard to learning them is working as it was intended to work in the course of play.)

    "Power leveling the PC to 50", does not also increase the PC's experience level with any crafting skill(s). Gaining "Inspiration Points" to increase the PC's experience level with a craft requires acquiring crafting materials to make items and/or deconstructing items to "learn" how to make them. (I don't recall seeing any way to deconstruct furnishing items to increase the PC's experience level with any of the six crafts, and I don't know whether crafting a furnishing item will increase the PC's experience level with any of the six crafts.)

    Also, the player must invest Skill Points in the primary passive(s) for each crafting skill line to increase the Rank, in order to enable the PC to craft any but the most basic furnishings. A player should invest Skill Points in a Hireling, when possible, to obtain crafting materials for the PC while the player is not playing the game. Some of them can be used in crafting furnishings, but the Hirelings of my PCs have not obtained any Regulus, Bast, or Heartwood.

    As far as I know, learning the Traits for Blacksmithing, Clothing, and Woodworking items is not required to craft furnishings. However, it is necessary to learn them in order to fulfill Master Crafting Writs, and the Research will require at least three months to learn all nine for each of those three crafts.

    Last, but not least, a PC can craft furnishings in any Style without having learned that Style by acquiring and using Motifs. Again, though, if a player wants to acquire furnishing plans with vouchers obtained by fulfilling Master Crafting Writs, then the PC also must acquire and use Crafting Motifs to learn most, if not all, of the numerous Styles in which armor and weapons can be crafted. Doing that can be time-consuming and expensive, whether the PC obtains the Motifs in the course of play, or the player buys them with Gold Pieces from a Guild Store / Guild Trader. Crafting Motifs also can be bought via the Crown Store for each of the Styles that were in the game prior to the Homestead patch. Some Motifs are sold individually, others in packages, but none of them are low-cost.

    That said, as far as I know, the Experience Bonus food buff does not stack with any other, and two or more Experience Bonus scrolls do not "stack". Nonetheless, apparently, their bonus is added to the Experience Point bonus from having the Training trait on the PC's gear. Aside from that, personally, enough caffeine, ginseng, or other stimulants to keep me awake during such a grind would probably kill me.

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  • Iron_Butterfly
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    I've reported this to Zenimax but no reply yet.
  • BlackSparrow
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    And I can confirm that this can happen when passing plans from lower level to higher level as well.

    This evening, I found two plans (Orcish Table, Block, and Wood Elf Stool, Leather) on my level 19 thief that my level 32 crafter (she gained a level, yay) was not able to learn. I was very careful this time to write down who found what, so I know 100% that this is a case of a higher level not being able to learn patterns found by a lower level.

    It seems more common that this happens from higher to lower, but it's not exclusive to it. I did happen to have double of a particular pattern (a Formal Orc Table), one found by a lower level and one found by a higher level, and the lower level one worked where the higher didn't.

    But it's not exclusive to that. So. Yay. More patterns my crafter can't read. :/
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    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Vudokan
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    Yep, it's based on the level of the character that found it. Really frustrating issue that I hope gets fixed soon.
  • Danikat
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    I've reported this in-game as well. I haven't received a reply, but I don't mind that as long as the bug does get fixed (and hopefully soon).

    So far it's been very consistent for me: patterns picked up by my level 27-29 character (she's levelled up) cannot be learned by my level 11 crafter. Patterns he picked up himself, or ones found by other characters (levels 10, 7 and 4) he can learn.

    But then my testing of it has been pretty consistent too so I don't know if I'm missing some important factors. But hopefully that doesn't matter because between all of us (and other people who have submitted bug reports but not posted here) ZOS will have enough data to identify the problem.
    Lauranae wrote: »
    I am CP 385, my husband is CP 378, I send him a recipe that i looted, and .... says he is too low to learn it .......

    O_o

    How is that a thing? If this is based off Provisioning in the back-end, you'd think it would cap at CP160. Blaaaaargh. :s

    I'm beginning to think this is account-based. Like, once you get this message once, other recipes start bugging out regardless of level. *throws theories wildly at the wall*

    My guess, based on experience with other games since I don't know the code in ESO, is that it's basically a conflict between a few different systems and an over-sight.

    I suspect they used an existing item (or a generic template) as a basis for the furniture patterns, which allows them to have a level requirement. Because that wasn't set manually it's being filled in automatically by One Tamriel's scaling system - which means all patterns are scaled to the level of the character who picks them up (and there's no cap since I suspect that has to be set manually too), and because there isn't supposed to be a level requirement it was never set to show on the item's info.

    There might be more to it of course, or other gaps where there's an option to add requirements that weren't filled in and the game is filling in automatically when the item is picked up, which would explain some of the inconsistencies. Or I might be completely wrong.
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Just got what I think is an actual human reply to my ticket. At least, I think that's what this means:
    Hello,
    Thank you for bringing this to our attention. . I will be glad to forward this along to the Development team for you at this time. Please keep an eye on our Patch Notes forum for any updates at http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes.

    So my fingers are crossed that it will be addressed in next week's patch. :)
    Living vicariously through my characters.

    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Andarne
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    Pestered Richard Lambert about it before tonight's livestream on Twitch. He says there's a bugfix in testing.

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  • Iron_Butterfly
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    Andarne wrote: »
    Pestered Richard Lambert about it before tonight's livestream on Twitch. He says there's a bugfix in testing.

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    Cool - ty for the update! I never believed the "hidden level" thing was the answer as it made absolutely no sense to implement such a thing. Besides, people had tested it and it made no difference to their issue.


  • Danikat
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    Glad to know there's a fix being worked on! I've been saving all the unuseable blueprints and it will be great to be able to give them all to my crafter (especially since several of them are furnishings I want in my house).
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Glad to know there's a fix being worked on! I've been saving all the unuseable blueprints and it will be great to be able to give them all to my crafter (especially since several of them are furnishings I want in my house).

    Me too. I now have 17 of the buggers just filling up space right now. And after a weekend to farm up the mats, I'm so ready to craft some of them :)
    Living vicariously through my characters.

    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Danikat
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    According to the patch notes this has been fixed now.

    I can't check until I get home (so about 4 hours time) but I'm really hoping it has actually been fixed and it's retroactive. It will be great to clear out some space on my mule and have all those recipes available to craft.
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  • barduck
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    Danikat wrote: »
    According to the patch notes this has been fixed now.

    I can't check until I get home (so about 4 hours time) but I'm really hoping it has actually been fixed and it's retroactive. It will be great to clear out some space on my mule and have all those recipes available to craft.

    Yeah, this is now fixed. My lower level crafting alts can now learn all the blueprints/patterns they couldn't before.

    Good thing it's fixed although how such bug can pass QA and PTS is beyond me.

  • YummyYeti
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    I know this is an old thread, however I am having this issue, seems to mainly be Alinor prints, my MC is 39 and cannot learn any prints looted by my higher level characters or cp characters, I always get the not high enough level error. I'm on Xbox/ EU

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  • Lakhitia
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    I keep having this issue as well, is there anything going on in regards to this problem or have I just missed something/am I doing something wrong? I can't find any information on the blueprint/design regarding the necessary character level at all. I have the required skills (for example, woodworking 3, recipe improvement 4), yet I can't even consume the diagram for alinor sconce, candles tall. It keeps saying: "Your level isn't high enough to use this item." Is there a catch somewhere or is it actually an unresoved bug?
  • Logaritmio
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    I believe this bug has been reintroduced with Summerset chapter with its associated furnishing plans. I have Alinor recipes that my crafter cannot learn due to "level not high enough".

    Maybe the tool used to create these items during development was not fixed?

    It's a very annoying bug for us who prefer having crafters on separate characters not intended to level to cap.

    Perhaps the template class has a field for character level that isn't even initialized for these items thus containing random value? Just a theory from an old software developer.
    Edited by Logaritmio on 21 September 2018 12:11
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    Added a screenshot above.
  • BlackSparrow
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    Make sure to report it in-game if you haven't yet. Honestly, I'd submit both a /help and a /bug ticket. That's more likely to reach them than talking about it in a thread.
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    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Logaritmio
    I have found the culprit. The recipe will reflect the level of the character looting it. An indication of what level the plan has is its vendor value. If I loot with my cp level character the value will be 30g, if looted by a level 18 it's 18g. This way my lower level crafter can shop these and learn them based on the vendor value. I think lowest value is 9g. These are for green, blue adds 1g and purple 2g.

    It screws up TTC which separates the schematics by level.
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