Help me build my magicka templar for PvP

ScooberSteve · January 2017

iseko wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

Yes you can but its a pain to cast every 12 seconds not to mention you need cast on an enemy. A lot of mageplars like it but its not for everyone. I would recommend it though.

The major sorc buff lasts for 20 seconds not 12. Still a pain the you have to cast it on other players though...

Personally I like (azura non-cp) 5kag, 5 lich (jewels + offbar), 2 magnus, 2 bloodspawn

5HA, 2LA

With kags you can pick armor traits easy peasy. Personally I went 2 divines, 3 impen, 2 sturdy (3sturdy with shield).

You have just shown how little you know about pvp. No real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil ever. If you do some research half of the mageplar streamers are using rattlecage. Stop trying to start arguments on forums

ScooberSteve · January 2017

alext89 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfv-S8aQfB4&t=184s

^^ check out kodi's magplar build, i tested it, its a very good balance of surstain, tankyness and damage. if your get your combo right, u can really melt people.

my self had a bit differend setup.

5 rattlecage
2 skoria
5 lich
2 torugs pact

@iseko check out this video and see what 5 piece he use. Also note what traits he uses.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · January 2017

ScooberSteve wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

Yes you can but its a pain to cast every 12 seconds not to mention you need cast on an enemy. A lot of mageplars like it but its not for everyone. I would recommend it though.

The major sorc buff lasts for 20 seconds not 12. Still a pain the you have to cast it on other players though...

Personally I like (azura non-cp) 5kag, 5 lich (jewels + offbar), 2 magnus, 2 bloodspawn

5HA, 2LA

With kags you can pick armor traits easy peasy. Personally I went 2 divines, 3 impen, 2 sturdy (3sturdy with shield).

You have just shown how little you know about pvp. No real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil ever. If you do some research half of the mageplar streamers are using rattlecage. Stop trying to start arguments on forums

Streamers are not always the best players. I know the good magplars on Xbox NA are still running light armor.

ScooberSteve · January 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

Yes you can but its a pain to cast every 12 seconds not to mention you need cast on an enemy. A lot of mageplars like it but its not for everyone. I would recommend it though.

The major sorc buff lasts for 20 seconds not 12. Still a pain the you have to cast it on other players though...

Personally I like (azura non-cp) 5kag, 5 lich (jewels + offbar), 2 magnus, 2 bloodspawn

5HA, 2LA

With kags you can pick armor traits easy peasy. Personally I went 2 divines, 3 impen, 2 sturdy (3sturdy with shield).

You have just shown how little you know about pvp. No real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil ever. If you do some research half of the mageplar streamers are using rattlecage. Stop trying to start arguments on forums

Streamers are not always the best players. I know the good magplars on Xbox NA are still running light armor.

still doesnt change the fact that Rattle cage is a good set for Templar. and if you are using devines in cyrodiil you dont know what your doing.

iseko · January 2017

ScooberSteve wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

Yes you can but its a pain to cast every 12 seconds not to mention you need cast on an enemy. A lot of mageplars like it but its not for everyone. I would recommend it though.

The major sorc buff lasts for 20 seconds not 12. Still a pain the you have to cast it on other players though...

Personally I like (azura non-cp) 5kag, 5 lich (jewels + offbar), 2 magnus, 2 bloodspawn

5HA, 2LA

With kags you can pick armor traits easy peasy. Personally I went 2 divines, 3 impen, 2 sturdy (3sturdy with shield).

You have just shown how little you know about pvp. No real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil ever. If you do some research half of the mageplar streamers are using rattlecage. Stop trying to start arguments on forums

Ive seen that video. Good build if you are maining a cp campaign. Terrible sustain in non cp (which I main). I found that kags works better since u lose 150 or so spell dmg but gain regen and max magicka. So the overall loss is not that high. Plus the resurrection speed bonus is awesome. Having to slot structured entropy can be a pain but the empower can be useful.

Secondly I run 2 devines on my monster set. Tired of farming that ***. I dont mind since I run atronach and helps with sustain. Maxing out my impen on azura was not to my liking. There are crit builds but a lot less so overall less need.

I do fine in pvp. Thank you very much and I will give my opinion if I like to. If you do not agree you are welcome to say so. [snip]

[Edit for baiting]

ScooberSteve · January 2017

Once again no real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil. The krags in azura makes sense sure but rattlecage is awesome too.

Calboy · January 2017

Rattlecage. It's a beast on magplar and also not having to find your target fo cast entropy is so so so so so so so good.

olivesforge · January 2017

Wow, a "no true Scotsman" from someone who got angry when someone disagrees a little bit.

I think as of U13 you can get away with 1 divines on small - but absolutely no more than that.

Rattlecage is popular right now, and for good reason. If your group comp can't keep you from taking hits constantly, use it, but at the slight risk of running into regen issues.

Alternatively, Heavy Kagernac's has been a strong set ever since release, and the rez speed buff will actually be more useful in group comps which follow a DPS-res meta. At first look, the difference is a loss of 137 in damage, but the bigger pool Kags grants offsets that a bit, and your Spell Damage number is completely irrelevant if you run out because of poor regen.

Obviously a decision between Rattle and Kags will depend upon what jewelry you have available and your other set selections.

And always remember that many streamers use different sets off-stream than they do on. Nobody wins in this game by broadcasting to the world their "special" builds.

ZOS_Bill · January 2017

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Ron_Burgundy_79 · January 2017

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Once again no real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil. The krags in azura makes sense sure but rattlecage is awesome too.

Both of the skoria pieces I use in duels are divines. I do just fine with 2500 impen.

Rattlecage isn't a bad set, I just prefer the light armor passives, the dot from entropy, and the empower from the mages guild passives.

Floki_Vilgerdarson · February 2017

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Once again no real pvper would use devines in cyrodiil. The krags in azura makes sense sure but rattlecage is awesome too.

What is the definition of a "real pvper"?? I am sorry I don't know.

Thanks,

Floki

Neoauspex · February 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Neoauspex · February 2017

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Sheuib · February 2017

I use 5 soulshine, chest, legs and jewelry, 5 spinner, and slimecraw. I use defensive weapons along with shield on back bar. The pen from 5 light and spinner is enough to allow defensive weapons plus they are cheap to buy if you don't want to farm them.

SneaK · February 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

I'm on Xbox NA if you need someone to run it with.

Waffennacht · February 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Now I know your name...

I personally prefer TK over Pirate. Though most people say TK is better on stam, but I've found combining TK with Wards is great.

TK + Vampire can be good apparently (from what I've read) sure there is a reduction, but the undeath passive is pretty keen in conjunction.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Now I know your name...

I personally prefer TK over Pirate. Though most people say TK is better on stam, but I've found combining TK with Wards is great.

TK + Vampire can be good apparently (from what I've read) sure there is a reduction, but the undeath passive is pretty keen in conjunction.

I'll have to try it out. I don't believe I have that helm either.

Waffennacht · February 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Now I know your name...

I personally prefer TK over Pirate. Though most people say TK is better on stam, but I've found combining TK with Wards is great.

TK + Vampire can be good apparently (from what I've read) sure there is a reduction, but the undeath passive is pretty keen in conjunction.

I'll have to try it out. I don't believe I have that helm either.

Blessed Crucible, one of the easier dungeons

Neoauspex · February 2017

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

SneaK · February 2017

Neoauspex wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

GT: LbN SneaK (I have 2 Templars hahaha, not on til tonight though..)

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

SneaK wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

GT: LbN SneaK (I have 2 Templars hahaha, not on til tonight though..)

I have 3

Rhaegar75 · February 2017

i'm working towards getting some decent equip: at the moment I have 5 soulshine (5 pieces of armour), Valkyn (1 medium and 1 light), 3 Willpower (a jewell and 2 weapons);

I'm finding it really hard to get 2 complete sets 5 and 5 cause in most sitations I'm missing weapons or jewels...so few on the market!! What would you suggest to improve my current setup....do bear in mind that money is tight?

In AvA my stats (including food but no buffs) are roughly as follows:
Mag:32600
Health: 26600
Spell Damage: 1600
Crit: 38%

Given that I'm just approaching AvA (noob alert) I'm not sure if the above numbers are ok or terribe...i'm also a bit stuck in the sense of not knowing what (and how) to boost. thanks for any help!!

SneaK · February 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

GT: LbN SneaK (I have 2 Templars hahaha, not on til tonight though..)

I have 3

Are they all dirty blues?
(JK, JK, Kinda, JK)

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

GT: LbN SneaK (I have 2 Templars hahaha, not on til tonight though..)

I have 3

Are they all dirty blues?
(JK, JK, Kinda, JK)

DC magplar & stamplar
AD magplar

SneaK · February 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

GT: LbN SneaK (I have 2 Templars hahaha, not on til tonight though..)

I have 3

Are they all dirty blues?
(JK, JK, Kinda, JK)

DC magplar & stamplar
AD magplar

Haha, nice. I'm like Rainman when it comes to gamertags man, I remember pretty much everyone I've come across in Cyro. I know you as a blue Templar.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · February 2017

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Props to

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

I didn't like BSW in PvP personally, I switched to Spinners. In PvE you can keep up the buff with a regular rotation, but PvP is too helter skelter. For me at least.

I wanna try Troll King, even with vamp, before I rule it out. That or Pirate Skeleton maybe instead of Malubeth/Skoria? I really hadn't considered Slimecraw.

Side note: props to those that point out logical fallacies.

I've been running spinners since the beginning of the OT patch. Thanks for the reply on bsw. Were you using a destro or just relying on reflective light to proc it in pvp? I still haven't farmed an impen set for pvp, but probably will for my magic dk at some point.

I really want to try out pirate skeleton, but don't have the helm yet. I've went back to bloodspawn in preparation for the housing patch (console pleb) and it does help my survivability while in light armor.

Ya I meant to mention this is with duel wield, not destro. Lot easier with destro but you're still relying on RNG, 20% chance. Sometimes you'll proc it but have to switch bars and go on defense and waste it, etc.

I'm on console too, tryin to farm all these before the patch drops. If you're on Xbox I'll gladly farm Pirate Skeleton with ya.

Always happy to add a fellow forum warrior.

Xbox NA GT: Ron Burgundy 79

Uhhhhh, hi, I kinda need that helm too

GT: Neoauspex. Got 3, we just need a... Wait, team of Templars we don't need $#*!

GT: LbN SneaK (I have 2 Templars hahaha, not on til tonight though..)

I have 3

Are they all dirty blues?
(JK, JK, Kinda, JK)

DC magplar & stamplar
AD magplar

Haha, nice. I'm like Rainman when it comes to gamertags man, I remember pretty much everyone I've come across in Cyro. I know you as a blue Templar.

Yeah I rarely play anything other than my DC magplar.

Sheuib · February 2017

I don't understand why so many people are against structured entropy. 8% health, empower, and a small heal on top of major sorcery what is not to like. I actually run it on both bars. Many times that 8% has made the difference from being ganked to killing a nightblade that deserves to die.