Help me build my magicka templar for PvP

Qbiken · January 2017

Until now I´ve played as "healbot" in smallscale to earn AP. Even though it´s fun I would like to have some option when going solo. What I´m after is a build (mostly need help gearwise) that can work solo and that have some good offence potential combined with decent survivability. I´ve been thinking going 5 Soulshine 5 Spinner and Valkyn/Grothdar. What are you people using on you templar that works right now??

KingYogi415 · January 2017

I hear 10 piece troll king good!

widowmakerx · January 2017

5 piece krags hope 3 pc will power 2pc tourogs pact and then grothdar is a pretty good set up and plenty of room to mix and match after that
I'm a pvp mag templar cyrodiil rank 31

alext89 · January 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfv-S8aQfB4&t=184s

^^ check out kodi's magplar build, i tested it, its a very good balance of surstain, tankyness and damage. if your get your combo right, u can really melt people.

my self had a bit differend setup.

5 rattlecage
2 skoria
5 lich
2 torugs pact

UppGRAYxDD · January 2017

If your hvy passives are done, Mage guild done, & undaunted maxed, look at trainee 5 pc with 5 whatever set and a monster set. It's great having the tri stat boost

aLi3nZ · January 2017

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makeumrage · January 2017

5pc rattlecage 5pc spinner 2 grothdar

makeumrage · January 2017

Or if you never have issues remembering to rebuff 5pc soulshine 5 pc spinner 2pc grothdar

MalakithAlamahdi · January 2017

I'm using 5 kagrenacs, 3 willpower with spell damage enchants, 2 Magnus and whatever monster set you like. Works in both 7 heavy and 5 light.

LegacyDM · January 2017

I'm using 5 piece black rose 5 piece rattlecage 2 piece skoria.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · January 2017

I have been running 5 trainee 5 spinner 2 grothdarr or skoria, but I wouldn't go that route due to the latest PTS notes. Apparently this build was "OP" due to trainee, but it is being nerfed to the point that it will be unusable.

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a1i3nz · January 2017

aLi3nZ wrote: »

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Did you take my xbl gt "a1i3nz"? Lol or is it a coincidence

Qbiken · January 2017

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

I have been running 5 trainee 5 spinner 2 grothdarr or skoria, but I wouldn't go that route due to the latest PTS notes. Apparently this build was "OP" due to trainee, but it is being nerfed to the point that it will be unusable.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_RichLambert

I think trainee still will be really good tho

THEDKEXPERIENCE · January 2017

I do 5 VD 5 Julianos and 2 Velidreth in PVP and 3 Willpower, 2 VD, 5 Julianos and 2 Velindreth in PVE. I'll be replacing Velidreth with Grothdar eventually but it still gets the job done.

The 2 piece spell power bonus on VD is easily overlooked.

Baconlad · January 2017

I wish light armor templar was viable...

Baconlad · January 2017

And soulshine had magick rings

Ron_Burgundy_79 · January 2017

Baconlad wrote: »

I wish light armor templar was viable...

It's viable, but it's not easy to play while solo or in small groups. I will say that a lot of the more experienced templars are still running light armor.

Lexxypwns · January 2017

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

WillhelmBlack · January 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

widowmakerx wrote: »

5 piece krags hope 3 pc will power 2pc tourogs pact and then grothdar is a pretty good set up and plenty of room to mix and match after that
I'm a pvp mag templar cyrodiil rank 31

TRASH

makeumrage wrote: »

5pc rattlecage 5pc spinner 2 grothdar

TRASH

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. The damage boost is significant and since groth/skoria aren't able to crit next patch I think slimecraw is BiS monster set for solo pvp. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

This

or 6 Malubeth, no pants.

Qbiken · January 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. The damage boost is significant and since groth/skoria aren't able to crit next patch I think slimecraw is BiS monster set for solo pvp. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Well, just need to farm myself a piece of slimecraw then

Lexxypwns · January 2017

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

widowmakerx wrote: »

5 piece krags hope 3 pc will power 2pc tourogs pact and then grothdar is a pretty good set up and plenty of room to mix and match after that
I'm a pvp mag templar cyrodiil rank 31

TRASH

makeumrage wrote: »

5pc rattlecage 5pc spinner 2 grothdar

TRASH

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. The damage boost is significant and since groth/skoria aren't able to crit next patch I think slimecraw is BiS monster set for solo pvp. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

This

or 6 Malubeth, no pants.

I'm almost certain malubeth is gonna be trash for open world pvp next patch. No crit heals and no crazy healing buff stacking, this set lost its appeal. Unfortunately I just don't see too many options for magplar in 2pc sets next patch. Troll king is inefficient because vamp is necessary. Skoria/groth nerfs are self explanatory. I'm not even sure what to consider running besides 2 slime or 2 BS. I mean, rkugmaz for stam regen? EG, even though that health proc is 100% useless? Iceheart?

Ron_Burgundy_79 · January 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

I've been looking at slime craw too, but I'm not sure the flat damage increase will beat a 4-6k skoria proc every 5 seconds. Definitely worth some testing though.

I haven't tried out burning spell weave yet, but is reflective light a large enough source of fire damage to keep BSW procced in pvp?

WillhelmBlack · January 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

widowmakerx wrote: »

5 piece krags hope 3 pc will power 2pc tourogs pact and then grothdar is a pretty good set up and plenty of room to mix and match after that
I'm a pvp mag templar cyrodiil rank 31

TRASH

makeumrage wrote: »

5pc rattlecage 5pc spinner 2 grothdar

TRASH

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. The damage boost is significant and since groth/skoria aren't able to crit next patch I think slimecraw is BiS monster set for solo pvp. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

This

or 6 Malubeth, no pants.

I'm almost certain malubeth is gonna be trash for open world pvp next patch. No crit heals and no crazy healing buff stacking, this set lost its appeal. Unfortunately I just don't see too many options for magplar in 2pc sets next patch. Troll king is inefficient because vamp is necessary. Skoria/groth nerfs are self explanatory. I'm not even sure what to consider running besides 2 slime or 2 BS. I mean, rkugmaz for stam regen? EG, even though that health proc is 100% useless? Iceheart?

I usually run Engine Guardian. I don't even use Repentance either, it's just that good.

Deuce · January 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Diclamer: I'm disregarding sets that are gonna be trash next patch

Basically, you have 3 choices for damage sets. Soulshine is almost a must, sharpened swords are easy AF to drop too and then you wear chest,legs,and X armor piece. Soulshine outperforms all heavy armor options for damage on a magplar. After that you have to consider either BSW or Spinners depending on what skills you're running. IIRC BSW outperforms Spinners for sustained damage at ~61% uptime(has 75% max uptime) and it gives much more overall burst and the spell damage boosts your HoTs and burst healing, whereas spinner doesn't give you that.

Once you've made your choice between spinners or bsw you're on to monster helm. For me, I think for Magplar your best bet is going to be slimecraw. Honorable mention to Bloodspawn.

Thief stone, witchmother's food

For Magplar PVP I am currently working on this set, just need a BSW Necklace. Gave up on Weapons but with the dual wield soulshine swords I can wear 2 BSW light body and 3 Jewelry, along with 3 Soulshine body and 2 Heavy Monster peices making 5H/2L. I made a sharpened Fire staff with a fire enchant (I hear that helps proc BSW).

I was still considering using Skoria as I like to use ranged attacks (dont even slot sweeps sadly). Given the nerf I may look into Slimecraw.

I tested this morning on some elites in Grothgar and I hit an elite Mammoth for a 45k Dark Flare, solo self buffed with entropy and the BSW proc.....I was VERY impressed considering I was wearing all impen and I had never seen my Dark Flare hit for more than 35k before that!

Wreuntzylla · January 2017

alext89 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfv-S8aQfB4&t=184s

^^ check out kodi's magplar build, i tested it, its a very good balance of surstain, tankyness and damage. if your get your combo right, u can really melt people.

my self had a bit differend setup.

5 rattlecage
2 skoria
5 lich
2 torugs pact

Just think twice about using retribution. People that use it fold hard against decent fasalla/reverb builds.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · January 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

alext89 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfv-S8aQfB4&t=184s

^^ check out kodi's magplar build, i tested it, its a very good balance of surstain, tankyness and damage. if your get your combo right, u can really melt people.

my self had a bit differend setup.

5 rattlecage
2 skoria
5 lich
2 torugs pact

Just think twice about using retribution. People that use it fold hard against decent fasalla/reverb builds.

There are times where I have to hit extended ritual twice to purify off all the negative effects. I wouldn't go near ritual of retribution for pvp.

a1i3nz · January 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

alext89 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfv-S8aQfB4&t=184s

^^ check out kodi's magplar build, i tested it, its a very good balance of surstain, tankyness and damage. if your get your combo right, u can really melt people.

my self had a bit differend setup.

5 rattlecage
2 skoria
5 lich
2 torugs pact

Just think twice about using retribution. People that use it fold hard against decent fasalla/reverb builds.

True.

But retribution used with blazing spear is great for fighting high mobility builds or stamblades. Or if you run skoria. Still prefer extended. Maybe retribution for pve.

ScooberSteve · January 2017

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

josh.lackey_ESO · January 2017

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

ScooberSteve · January 2017

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

Yes you can but its a pain to cast every 12 seconds not to mention you need cast on an enemy. A lot of mageplars like it but its not for everyone. I would recommend it though.

iseko · January 2017

ScooberSteve wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Rattlecage is a must. Cant beat that permanent major sorcery buff. Mageplar rank 30

Or use Entropy.

Yes you can but its a pain to cast every 12 seconds not to mention you need cast on an enemy. A lot of mageplars like it but its not for everyone. I would recommend it though.

The major sorc buff lasts for 20 seconds not 12. Still a pain the you have to cast it on other players though...

Personally I like (azura non-cp) 5kag, 5 lich (jewels + offbar), 2 magnus, 2 bloodspawn

5HA, 2LA

With kags you can pick armor traits easy peasy. Personally I went 2 divines, 3 impen, 2 sturdy (3sturdy with shield).