PROC SETS!!!!!!

Dk_needs_a_buff

People using proc sets clearly have little to no skill and think they are good. On ps4 you get cocky people running around thinking they are good with procs but clearly arent. LETS STOP ZENIMAX KILLING ESO BECAUSE THEY CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING...make eavry admin you know aware of this vote

Its hard for this post not to be bias. Ove used them they are overkill so i stopped using them.
Sorry if this post is one sided but its hard not to be

Dk_needs_a_buff

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Maeby a good start would be to remove all procs exept monster sets. Just get the ball rolling

Astrid

proc sets can stay because i cant play without them

Whoops, you caught me. Can't play without em.

Dk_needs_a_buff

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Astrid wrote: »

Whoops, you caught me. Can't play without em.

L2P please bro. Your ruining the game. Or at least your helping zenimax do it

Alucardo

They are planning on doing something with proc sets. What that is, nobody really knows. When that is, also nobody knows. We just have to live with it until then. Same with the destro ulti and broken as hell infernal guardian.

Kutsuu

Lmao, great example of a biased poll. You could have made it more productive than just a troll post. First, don't preach about your own opinion in the opening of the poll. Second, your options attempt to shame anyone who would vote that they are balanced and the option you are trying to force everyone to pick is a demand instead of an opinion. Personally I would vote for a more reasonable "proc sets are overperforming and need adjustment" option, if one existed.

Alucardo

Kutsuu wrote: »

Lmao, great example of a biased poll. You could have made it more productive than just a troll post. First, don't preach about your own opinion in the opening of the poll. Second, your options attempt to shame anyone who would vote that they are balanced and the option you are trying to force everyone to pick is a demand instead of an opinion. Personally I would vote for a more reasonable "proc sets are overperforming and need adjustment" option, if one existed.

I think it's more of a rage than a troll post xD

Dk_needs_a_buff

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Kutsuu wrote: »

Lmao, great example of a biased poll. You could have made it more productive than just a troll post. First, don't preach about your own opinion in the opening of the poll. Second, your options attempt to shame anyone who would vote that they are balanced and the option you are trying to force everyone to pick is a demand instead of an opinion. Personally I would vote for a more reasonable "proc sets are overperforming and need adjustment" option, if one existed.

Its not biased lol. Eavryone knows it takes no skill and is way to strong

raasdal

proc sets can stay because i cant play without them

Sheer amount of Capital Letters and exlamation marks are hurting my eyes. Therefore voting against whatever is typed in all caps

Emothic

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Although I do think this thread is a bit bias. I still believe that something needs to be done with proc sets. It seems to me that each proc set is design for the sole purpose for a single player to fight off a zerg of enemies. Of which makes that set very powerful. However majority of players will start meta building and use those very powerful proc sets and the balance of the game is completely thrown off from it. As a set ment for a small group to fight a bigger group is being used as a zerging set.

Although in many cases the sets become so powerful that a small group of say 8 players can completely destory a foce of 40, 50, 60, or more players. Of which is what the set is designed to do, but it should not have that strong effect to kill essentially an army.

bellanca6561n

Alucardo wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Lmao, great example of a biased poll. You could have made it more productive than just a troll post. First, don't preach about your own opinion in the opening of the poll. Second, your options attempt to shame anyone who would vote that they are balanced and the option you are trying to force everyone to pick is a demand instead of an opinion. Personally I would vote for a more reasonable "proc sets are overperforming and need adjustment" option, if one existed.

I think it's more of a rage than a troll post xD

I'm waiting for that guy to post his raging professional wrestler GIF...in 3....2...1....

idk

proc sets can stay because i cant play without them

I chose the option that proc sets could stay merely because the poll was obviously slanted by design, on purpose. therefore is pointless and without value.

UrbanMonk

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

People using proc sets clearly have little to no skill and think they are good. On ps4 you get cocky people running around thinking they are good with procs but clearly arent. LETS STOP ZENIMAX KILLING ESO BECAUSE THEY CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING...make eavry admin you know aware of this vote

REMOVE ALL PROC SETS FROM GAME.

Derra

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Alucardo wrote: »

They are planning on doing something with proc sets. What that is, nobody really knows. When that is, also nobody knows. We just have to live with it until then. Same with the destro ulti and broken as hell infernal guardian.

I´m 99% sure we won´t see any balancing changes until the next major update which also will adress class balancing most likely creating a new plethora of ridiculously imbalanced meta builds that we´ll be stuck with no minor patch balancing happening - waiting for the following major update to hit.

PvP-Balance is simply too unimporatant for them to actually create fixes for broken crap in a reasonable timeframe.

WhiteMage

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Biased poll is biased. But you're right.

Stratforge

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Terrible post but proc sets are so bad I'm going to Agree anyway.

HoloYoitsu

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Whenever someone equips a proc set, just automatically apply a Mr. Potato Head costume to them and change their weapon graphic to a giant salt shaker.

Problem solved.

Sheuib

proc sets can stay because i cant play without them

If you haven't L2P with them in the game at this point you are the one with the issue. If you're still trying to run around with the glass cannon build but not a ganker then you deserve to die. If you don't have enough health and mitigation to survive a burst then you deserve to die. They are here to stay and if you can't adjust your build to compensate then you deserve to die.

BuggeX

Alucardo wrote: »

They are planning on doing something with proc sets. What that is, nobody really knows. When that is, also nobody knows. We just have to live with it until then. Same with the destro ulti and broken as hell infernal guardian.

planing? zos planing to fix Bugs and exploits that are knowen from the beta

Vaoh

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

It's at the point where I'd have no issue with all procs dealing damage to be disabled in PvP zones.

Xvorg

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Sheuib wrote: »

If you haven't L2P with them in the game at this point you are the one with the issue. If you're still trying to run around with the glass cannon build but not a ganker then you deserve to die. If you don't have enough health and mitigation to survive a burst then you deserve to die. They are here to stay and if you can't adjust your build to compensate then you deserve to die.

When I play, I try some good combos, for example, shield assault -> talons -> deep breath -> whip -> whip -> whip (while holding block) -> Dragon Leap (at the same time with inhale explosion). It's a beautiful playing style.

Nevertheless, I always get killed by the guy who uses poison with his bow heavy attack -> poison inject -> crit rush and light attack.

Yes, it is a L2P issue

Sandman929

Xvorg wrote: »

Sheuib wrote: »

If you haven't L2P with them in the game at this point you are the one with the issue. If you're still trying to run around with the glass cannon build but not a ganker then you deserve to die. If you don't have enough health and mitigation to survive a burst then you deserve to die. They are here to stay and if you can't adjust your build to compensate then you deserve to die.

When I play, I try some good combos, for example, shield assault -> talons -> deep breath -> whip -> whip -> whip (while holding block) -> Dragon Leap (at the same time with inhale explosion). It's a beautiful playing style.

Nevertheless, I always get killed by the guy who uses poison with his bow heavy attack -> poison inject -> crit rush and light attack.

Yes, it is a L2P issue

I think what he meant by L2P is that you're supposed to adopt the proc sets yourself and be happy that all fights will boil down to a battle of RNG.

Xvorg

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Sandman929 wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Sheuib wrote: »

If you haven't L2P with them in the game at this point you are the one with the issue. If you're still trying to run around with the glass cannon build but not a ganker then you deserve to die. If you don't have enough health and mitigation to survive a burst then you deserve to die. They are here to stay and if you can't adjust your build to compensate then you deserve to die.

When I play, I try some good combos, for example, shield assault -> talons -> deep breath -> whip -> whip -> whip (while holding block) -> Dragon Leap (at the same time with inhale explosion). It's a beautiful playing style.

Nevertheless, I always get killed by the guy who uses poison with his bow heavy attack -> poison inject -> crit rush and light attack.

Yes, it is a L2P issue

I think what he meant by L2P is that you're supposed to adopt the proc sets yourself and be happy that all fights will boil down to a battle of RNG.

Hmmm, I refuse to support that guar slaughter machine. No more proc sets (done with guar leather)

Metemsycosis

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Proc sets are must-have, especially for stamina characters, and this alone should be a red flag they are too powerful. But for now I notice they level the playing field between newer players and experienced players (ie proc sets give them a legitimate fighting chance) and that I feel is positive. However in the hands of Max cp players who are also skilled -- that the sets need toned down is clear.

I'd start with proc percentage and aoe radius (thinking of infernal guardian and velidreth) but not necessarily the damage. Mitigating or avoiding damage is a learn to play issue and high damage combos are numerous

Astrid

proc sets can stay because i cant play without them

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

Astrid wrote: »

Whoops, you caught me. Can't play without em.

L2P please bro. Your ruining the game. Or at least your helping zenimax do it

*sigh*

Jim6270

LOL Very stupid pull

Okay frist of:
I have 1 toon of magicka and 1 toon of stamina of ecth class (except for Magicka Sorc) at max LvL and with good gear. Not all uses Proc sets and not even all uses Monster sets. and I PvP with almost all of them.

I dont get people whining about proc sets and monster sets. ... not at all actualy.

People say:
- Now tanks can do damage .... ooohhh ohh what? ... issent that just good that you can actualy deside to play as a tank in PvP so you dont have to keep that toon only for PvE?
- Now Healers can do damage ... again .. ehhh what? ... issent it just good that you can actualy deside to play a healer in PvP and dont have to just die over and over if you are not in a group?
- Now people join in 8 man groups to whipe out full raids of 40-50 man ..... ehm ... you think there is not more then 8 man in the other group using proc sets? ... and again havent people always been doing that?
- Now people with no skills can get the perfect proc set and kill people .... ehm .. so people with less skills are not allowed to have fun and do good in the game in PvP?
- Now all are farming Proc sets and monster sets just to be good .... ehm ... ehm .. just what? ... in this (and all other MMOS) you need to play the game to earn gear and skills to do good ... nothing realy changes?

As I see it:
- Tanks can be viable in PvP and it's awesome to play one and it is also fun to meet one in PvP on a medium or light armored toon and beat the crap out of them.
- Healer can do damage and thats just fun to play, that you can aid the ones you are healing so you are not just a heal bot and it is also fun to figth a healer and then midt figth have to think "ohh *** this guy can DPS, do I need to run og push DPS even harder" etc.
- There have always been groups grinding AP or having fun in big groups over TS etc. to take out or atlest push big raids nothing have realy changed there other then you have to be more skilled and smarter when you see such a group ... and thats just fun.
- People with burst sets can jump you all over and thats just awesome fun because you always have to be carefull and be on your toes in Cyrodiil and IC... skilled players have to work out new tactics, skill setups, gear etc. to stay superior in the PvP and I guess skilled people just love getting that challenges.
- You need to farm gear and monster sets to be as good or superior to others and thats just called playing the game.

As I see the game rigth now:
- The game have never been more challenging in PvP then now.
- Its fun that tanks and healers can do damage as well.
- There is little to no deference in power from stamina to magicka builds
- Light and medium armor is again good for PvP even if you meet a heavy armored PvPer with skills.
- There is little deference in power with the deferent classes but a huge deference in playstyle.
- it's fun that no matter how skilled you are there are plases and situations where you have to excape the figth or die.

So I dont realy get it ... I guess people that are whining are just people that dont want to change there Super hero power build and think that ESO should change the game around them and there build. The game is good as it is ... and awesome fun as it is. I actualy think that One tamriel and the new sets and monster sets made a balance in the game... and there will always be unbalanced things in a game but I dont realy think the new sets being that bad and unbalancing at all.

So maby many of the people complaining should try to figure out how to work their class, build etc. around the new fun changes that are made in the game ... the fun part of a game is actualy to have a challenges, work around it and win in the end. If you always just think you are the best and that it's always the game mechanics fault, the new items fault, the new what evers fault ..... then MMOs probebly issent for you ... maby you should play a single player game where you can just put it on "God mode" and win all the time :-D

Fun tread ... but seriosly .... just play the game insted of all that whining :-D

HoloYoitsu

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Jim6270 wrote: »

LOL Very stupid pull

Okay frist of:
I have 1 toon of magicka and 1 toon of stamina of ecth class (except for Magicka Sorc) at max LvL and with good gear. Not all uses Proc sets and not even all uses Monster sets. and I PvP with almost all of them.

I dont get people whining about proc sets and monster sets. ... not at all actualy.

People say:
- Now tanks can do damage .... ooohhh ohh what? ... issent that just good that you can actualy deside to play as a tank in PvP so you dont have to keep that toon only for PvE?
- Now Healers can do damage ... again .. ehhh what? ... issent it just good that you can actualy deside to play a healer in PvP and dont have to just die over and over if you are not in a group?
- Now people join in 8 man groups to whipe out full raids of 40-50 man ..... ehm ... you think there is not more then 8 man in the other group using proc sets? ... and again havent people always been doing that?
- Now people with no skills can get the perfect proc set and kill people .... ehm .. so people with less skills are not allowed to have fun and do good in the game in PvP?
- Now all are farming Proc sets and monster sets just to be good .... ehm ... ehm .. just what? ... in this (and all other MMOS) you need to play the game to earn gear and skills to do good ... nothing realy changes?

As I see it:
- Tanks can be viable in PvP and it's awesome to play one and it is also fun to meet one in PvP on a medium or light armored toon and beat the crap out of them.
- Healer can do damage and thats just fun to play, that you can aid the ones you are healing so you are not just a heal bot and it is also fun to figth a healer and then midt figth have to think "ohh *** this guy can DPS, do I need to run og push DPS even harder" etc.
- There have always been groups grinding AP or having fun in big groups over TS etc. to take out or atlest push big raids nothing have realy changed there other then you have to be more skilled and smarter when you see such a group ... and thats just fun.
- People with burst sets can jump you all over and thats just awesome fun because you always have to be carefull and be on your toes in Cyrodiil and IC... skilled players have to work out new tactics, skill setups, gear etc. to stay superior in the PvP and I guess skilled people just love getting that challenges.
- You need to farm gear and monster sets to be as good or superior to others and thats just called playing the game.

As I see the game rigth now:
- The game have never been more challenging in PvP then now.
- Its fun that tanks and healers can do damage as well.
- There is little to no deference in power from stamina to magicka builds
- Light and medium armor is again good for PvP even if you meet a heavy armored PvPer with skills.
- There is little deference in power with the deferent classes but a huge deference in playstyle.
- it's fun that no matter how skilled you are there are plases and situations where you have to excape the figth or die.

So I dont realy get it ... I guess people that are whining are just people that dont want to change there Super hero power build and think that ESO should change the game around them and there build. The game is good as it is ... and awesome fun as it is. I actualy think that One tamriel and the new sets and monster sets made a balance in the game... and there will always be unbalanced things in a game but I dont realy think the new sets being that bad and unbalancing at all.

So maby many of the people complaining should try to figure out how to work their class, build etc. around the new fun changes that are made in the game ... the fun part of a game is actualy to have a challenges, work around it and win in the end. If you always just think you are the best and that it's always the game mechanics fault, the new items fault, the new what evers fault ..... then MMOs probebly issent for you ... maby you should play a single player game where you can just put it on "God mode" and win all the time :-D

Fun tread ... but seriosly .... just play the game insted of all that whining :-D

Wrobel, is that you??

DeHei

i wait for next balance patch. Until that i dont wonder if a nightblade ganker is killing me... But it really makes fun, when i survive, root him and *** him as hard as hell with Destro ult (Frost)

Redn3ck

Id like to see proc sets have to obey each other's cooldowns.
I don't have issues with any individual set (though tempracale is pretty silly, it's should only proc on the target actually being taunted), the problem is when they all stack and go off within a second of each other.

FearlessOne_2014

PROC SETS NEED TO BE SORTED. ZENIMAX FIX THIS SOON AND NOT IN A FEW MONTHS WHEN ALL THE DECENT PLAYERS HAVE GONE

Honestly I wouldn't mind is ZOS just went thought the list of armor and weapons sets and just flatout delete all the ones that just proc damage or healing. I can deal with sets procing utlities tho, just not damage and heals. To me this requires no skill. However maybe others just suck soo bad at gaming they truly think this is a very skillful way of playing the game. On the other hand I'm done crying and gimping myself by not playing with them. In other words I have L2Proc, and my player skill magically increased by 3 folds at least.

Sheuib

proc sets can stay because i cant play without them

Xvorg wrote: »

Sheuib wrote: »

If you haven't L2P with them in the game at this point you are the one with the issue. If you're still trying to run around with the glass cannon build but not a ganker then you deserve to die. If you don't have enough health and mitigation to survive a burst then you deserve to die. They are here to stay and if you can't adjust your build to compensate then you deserve to die.

When I play, I try some good combos, for example, shield assault -> talons -> deep breath -> whip -> whip -> whip (while holding block) -> Dragon Leap (at the same time with inhale explosion). It's a beautiful playing style.

Nevertheless, I always get killed by the guy who uses poison with his bow heavy attack -> poison inject -> crit rush and light attack.

Yes, it is a L2P issue

You have just proven my point. You know exactly what is killing you and instead of adjusting to survive and win you wish to complain and have that which kills you changed. You chose not to learn from your deaths but continue along with some build that you probably copied from a website because if it is recommended on the internet it must be the best for you. So, like I said in my reply, "If you don't have enough health and mitigation to survive a burst then you deserve to die." You refuse to change, you refuse to learn, you have earned the L2P tag.