Crown Crate Drop Success Rate Thread (Live Server)

Enodoc

driosketch wrote: »

Mercutio wrote: »

So is there an established form that can be used by all so the presented data is uniform in appearance?

Enslaved wrote: »

Ok, Just to add to statistics.

Chest bought/will buy : 0
Mounts gained : 0
Pets gained : 0
cosmetic items : 0
consumables : 0

Hope this helps a bit.

Is this what will be used? (much thanks, @Enslaved )

@Mercutio

For the PTS I was labeling them like this:
*****example, DO NOT ADD to tally*****
Box 1:
Lethal Poison
Fortifying Meal
Riding lesson: Speed
Jawbone adornment

Box 2: (5 cards)
Warrior's Elixier
Mimic stone
Lethal Poison
Epic scroll
Mind shriven Horse

Box 3:
Warrior's Elixir (×2)
Fortifying Meal
Jawbone (dup 5 gems)
****************************************

Hopefully we can have players label the gems for the consumables they don't want and the total for the box. That would really help.

I used the same layout. I'm setting up a Google Doc sheet atm so that can be filled in too.

Mercutio

It's a mistake for them not to release the drop rates. What people will imagine will almost certainly be worse than what it really is.

Anacario

Got ~15k crowns right now, gonna be spending some on the misc stuff that got released today (on a side note, huzzah to that! not everything will be in crates from now on!) and spending whatevers left on crates. Will post my results here.

CadaCosa

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Why don't they (ZOS), just tell us the numbers?

They could tell us the drop percentage of the type in the crates.

They could also tell us the gem conversion rate.


In the State of Ohio, spending real money on a speculative tangible or intangible item requires full disclosure including the monetary value of the prize or prizes. I hope they have a disclaimer when they introduce the crates,

Good point

Preyfar

Opened 30 crates. Out of the 30 crates, I only got 4 rewards I'd consider notable.

Crate #4: Storm Atro Aura
Crate #11: Storm Atro Transformation
Crate #14: Golden Eyed Guar
Crate #17: Storm Atro Transformation

No mounts. So it looks like the PTS RNG may hold true that you'll still be expected to spend stupid amounts of crowns for these damn mounts.

Enodoc

OK guys, here's a Google Sheet to fill in. Please fill in ALL DROPS in each crate, as partial data is useless. If you get 5 cards, there's a separate box to add that info to so that the totals remain correct.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zt5oj7PWNFFaTykgXhWQOOkVl1ekHAJgcJpueRN3C40/edit?usp=sharing

Lylith

Preyfar wrote: »

Opened 30 crates. Out of the 30 crates, I only got 4 rewards I'd consider notable.

Crate #4: Storm Atro Aura
Crate #11: Storm Atro Transformation
Crate #14: Golden Eyed Guar
Crate #17: Storm Atro Transformation

No mounts. So it looks like the PTS RNG may hold true that you'll still be expected to spend stupid amounts of crowns for these damn mounts.

not encouraging.

thanks for posting your results.

Enodoc

Enodoc wrote: »

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zt5oj7PWNFFaTykgXhWQOOkVl1ekHAJgcJpueRN3C40/edit?usp=sharing

So this is pretty bare-bones right now; literally all you can do is add numbers to the drops list, as I locked all the other cells.

Please let me know what additional functionality you would like to see. Percentages obviously is high on the list, and I add them when I can.

rotaugen454

I currently have 80K crowns, which I got for about $350 on sale. I'll probably buy a few 15 packs over time. 2 of those 15 packs would be about $44 for the 10K in crowns. I'll use the Google Sheet from Enodoc.

SG_Celerrimus

Box 1:
Crown Mimic Stone
Crown Lethal Poison
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion
"Clever Man" Wizard Hat

Box 2:
Crown Tri-Restoration Potions
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir
Crown Soul Gem
"Azure Brow-to-Temple Circlet

Box 3:
Shornhelm Shepherd
Crown Survivor's Elixir
Crown Warrior's Elixir
Crown Warrior's Elixir

Box 4:
Crown Warrior's Elixir
Crown Survivor's Elixir
Soul-Shriven Ragged Clothing
Crown Crate Fortifying Meal

Box 5:
Crown Mimic Stone
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion
Crown Soul Gem
Jawbone Blades

Box 6:
Soul-Shriven Ragged Clothing
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion
Crown Lethal Poison

Box 7:
Chub Loon (WTF is this thing?!?)
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Mimic Stone
Crown Crate Experience Scoll

Box 8:
Crown Survivor's Elixir
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Repair Kit
"Clever Man" Wizard Hat

Out of crowns, no atronauch wolf. Crying in the corner commences.

Anacario

10,000 crowns

30 crates

Crate 1
-Helstrom Ancestor Lizard Pet
-Crown Lesson: Riding Capacity x1
-Crown Tri-Restoration Potion x5
-Crown Warrior's Elixir x5

Crate 2
-Crown Warrior's Elixir x5
-Crown Invisibility Potion x5
-Crown Warrior's Elixir x5
-Shornhelm Shepherd Pet(Dupe, 5 gems)

Crate 3
-Crown Soul Gem x1
-Crown Soul Gem x1
-Crown Crate Experience Scroll x1
-Shadow Striping Body Marking

Crate 4
-Crown Soul Gem x1
-Soul-Shriven Leather Outfit Costume
-Crown Crate Fortifying Meal x1
-Storm Atronach Transform Momento

Crate 5
-Crown Soul Gem x1
-Crown Mimic Stone x1
-Soul-Shriven Leather Outfit Costume(Dupe, 5 gems)
-Crown Invisibility Potion x5

Crate 6 (5 cards)
-Battlemage Tribune Armor Costume (Dupe, 5 gems)
-Crown Spellcaster's Elixir x5
-Storm Atronach Horse Mount (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
-Crown Invisibility Potion x5
-Crown Lesson: Riding Capacity x1

Crate 7
-Crown Survivor's Elixir x5
-Crown Invisibility Potion x5
-Crown Tri-Restoration Potion x5
-Feathered Bycoket Cap

Crate 8
-Crown Mimic Stone x1
-Battlemage Scout Captain Uniform Costume (Dupe, 5 gems)
-Crown Lethal Poison x25
-Crown Crate Fortifying Meal x1

Crate 9 (5 cards)
-Crown Mimic Stone x1
-Shadow Striping Body Marking (Dupe, 5 gems)
-"Brilliance" Brocade Robes (Dupe, 13 gems)
-Crown Lesson: Riding Speed x1
-Crown Lethal Poison x25

Crate 10 (5 cards)
-Crown Crate Refreshing Drink x1
-Crown Mimic Stone x1
-Storm Atronach Senche Mount (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
-Battlemage Scout Captain Uniform Costume (Dupe, 5 gems)
-Crown Invisibility Potion x1

I got two Storm Atronach mounts in 10 crates. Either people are all paranoid and uppity over nothing, or I am ungodly lucky.

Zakor

@Enodoc a gems section in the sheet would be nice

Milvan

Anacario wrote: »

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I got two Storm Atronach mounts in 10 crates. Either people are all paranoid and uppity over nothing, or I am ungodly lucky.

Wow! Ty for sharing! Great drop rate indeed!

Palindiil

So what is the conversion rate of consumables to gems, then?

fioskal

Chest bought/will buy : 15
Mounts gained : 0
Pets gained : 3 (4 total)
cosmetic items : 10 (15 total)
consumables : 45

Details:
2 Crown Crate Fortifying Meal (2x1) (2 gems)
10 Crown Tri-Restoration Potions (2x5) (2 gems)
100 Crown Lethal Poisons (4x25) (4 gems)
25 Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5x5) (5 gems)
30 Crown Survivor's Elixir (6x5) (6 gems)
15 Crown Warrior's Elixir (3x5) (3 gems)
2 Crown Repair Kit (2x1) (2 gems)
25 Crown Invisibility Potions (5x5) (5 gems)
5 Crown Mimic Stone (5x1) (Kept)
3 Crown Soul Gem (3x1) (3 gems)
3 Crown Crate Experience Scroll (3x1) (Kept)
2 Crown Crate Refreshing Drink (2x1) (2 gems)
1 Crown Lesson: Riding Speed (1x1) (Kept)
1 Crown Lesson: Riding Capacity (1x1) (Kept)

2 Purple Daggerback (13 gems)
1 Helstrom Ancestor Lizard
1 Orchid Nixad

2 Battlemage Palatine Armor (5 gems)
3 Soul-Shriven Leather Outfit (10 gems)
2 Battlemage Tribune Armor (5 gems)
1 Soul-Shriven Ragged Clothing

1 Fibonaccus Spiral Hat
1 Feathered Bycoket Cap

2 Shadow Striping (5 gems)
1 Enveloping Scales

1 Roostertail Frills
1 Jawbone Blades

(72 gems for me total)

SG_Celerrimus

Bought more crowns cuz

Box1:
Crown Tri-Restoraion Potion
Crown Mimic Stone
Aurbical Symbols
Crown Mimic Stone
Battlemage Tribune Armor

Box2:
Crown Crate Experience Scroll
Shadow Striping
Crown Crate Experience Scroll
Crown Crate Experience Scroll

Box3:
Crown Invisibility Potion
Daedric Scamp
Crown Crate Experience Scroll
Crown Crate Fortifying Meal

Box4:
Red Pit Wolf Mount (Ehhh, still not the atronauch wolf)
Crown Invisibility Potion
Crown Mimic Stone
Crown Warrior's Elixir

Box 5:
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Warrior's Elixir
"Brilliance" Brocade Robes
Crown Mimic Stone

Box 6:
Storm Atronach Transform
Crown Invisibility Potion
Crown Lesson: Riding Stamina
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir

Box 7:
Crown Survivor's Elixir
Crown Lesson: Riding Speed
Battlemange Palatine Armor
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion

Box 8:
Battlemage Tribune Armor
Crown Lethal Poison
Crown Warrior's Elixir
Crown Soul Gem

ZOS_DaryaK

We've removed a few posts that were not directly relevant to this topic, which is drop rates.

Enodoc

Zakor wrote: »

@Enodoc a gems section in the sheet would be nice

@Zakor Done. It's just a single box for all Gems for now, but there's also now a line for you to count up any duplicate items.

Hammy01

My experience with the new Crown Crates -

I bought the 5000 crown crate bundle and did not really get anything that great. The only mount I got was the Golden Eye Guar. I also ended up with about 80 crown gems through duplicates and trading in unwanted potions/scrolls and stuff.
I am also sorry to say that I purchased another 3000 crown worth of crates just to make sure I went over the 100 crown gems so I could get the Frost Mare and maybe get lucky with a Storm Mount... well I did not get lucky .

Anyways after it was all said and done I ended up with 2 mounts (Golden Eye Guar and Frost Mare), some pets, costumes, momentos, hats, tattoos.. and other junk that I could not swap for crown gems. I am not totally disappointed because I did get something I have been wanting for a long time now and that is the Frost Mare but I will not be purchasing anymore Crown Crates.

driosketch

Anacario wrote: »

I got two Storm Atronach mounts in 10 crates. Either people are all paranoid and uppity over nothing, or I am ungodly lucky.

You're lucky, congrats by the way. I myself pulled 3 antro months from 16 crates on the PTS. Others went days without one, or enough gems to buy one. Even with my good pulls the average for an Apex was a fraction of a percent.

Danikat wrote: »

Update: Since the crown crates have been removed from the PTS it looks like this thread is done, but I think we've got a pretty good data set. Thanks to everyone who participated!

I was going to do this myself, until I found out that on the PTS I only have 5,500 crowns and the crown crates cost their full 400 crowns, not 1 crown each like other items on the PTS. This means I was only able to buy 13 of them, which is an very small sample size and so I need your help to get more data. I think this is important to know so players can make an informed decision on how to spend their money when these things come out, and I'd really appreciate your help to get some accurate data. It doesn't matter if you only record 1 crate or 10, anything you can contribute will make the overall dataset more accurate and informative.

Rules to follow if you want to participate

1) Please decide whether you are going to participate before opening crates. If you post because you got a really good or really bad drop that will bias the data.
2) Please record ALL drops from the crate.
3) Please be specific. e.g. "Spellcaster's Elixir" and "Warrior's Elixir" not "potions". (It doesn't have to be the exact name, but don't group different items together.)
4) If you get an item you already had please record the item, not the crown gems.
5) Some items are awarded in packs (e.g. you always get 5 elixir's at a time). Please record these as 1 item. The point is to record frequency, not the total number of items.

Data
Chance shown is per crate, not per card.

Total crates: 731

Tl;dr version
Superior: Approx. 5%
Epic: Approx. 0.7%
Legendary: Approx. 0.4%
Apex: Approx. 0.3%

Consumables

• Crown Crate Experience Scroll: 80 - 10.90%
• Crown Crate Fortifying Meal: 64 - 8.72%
• Crown Crate Refreshing Drink: 65 - 8.86%
• Crown Invisibility Potion: 216 - 29.43%
• Crown Lesson: Riding Capacity: 37 - 5.04%
• Crown Lesson: Riding Speed: 44 - 5.99%
• Crown Lesson: Riding Stamina: 31 - 4.22%
• Crown Lethal Poison: 209 - 28.47%
• Crown Mimic Stone: 244 - 33.24%
• Crown Repair Kit: 92 - 12.71%
• Crown Soul Gem: 66 - 8.99%
• Crown Spellcaster's Elixir: 221 - 30.11%
• Crown Survivor's Elixir: 243 - 33.11%
• Crown Tri-Restoration Potion: 238 - 32.43%
• Crown Warrior's Elixir: 256 - 34.88%
• Grand Crown Crate Experience Scroll: 2 - 0.27%
• Major Crown Crate Experience Scroll: 4 - 0.54%

Superior

• “Clever Man” Wizard Hat: 34 - 4.63%
• Azure Brow-to-Temple Circlet: 35 - 4.77%
• Battlemage Palatine Armor: 28 - 3.81%
• Battlemage Scout Captain Uniform: 40 - 5.45%
• Battlemage Tribune Armor: 40 - 5.45%
• Daedric Scamp: 42 - 5.72%
• Evening Dress: 33 - 4.50%
• Feathered Bycoket Cap: 40 - 5.45%
• Fibonaccus Spiral Hat: 33 - 4.50%
• Helstrom Ancestor Lizard: 32 - 4.36%
• Jawbone Blades: 37 - 5.04%
• Roostertail Frills: 45 - 6.13%
• Shadow Striping: 32 - 4.36%
• Shornhelm Shepherd: 38 - 5.18%
• Soul-Shriven Armor Outfit: 43 - 5.86%
• Soul-Shriven Leather Outfit: 45 - 6.13%
• Soul-Shriven Ragged Clothing: 31 - 4.22%
• Storm Atronach Aura: 37 - 5.04%
• Wrestler's Burr Cut: 32 - 4.36%

Epic

• “Brilliance” Brocade Robes: 6 - 0.82%
• Aurbical Symbols: 3 - 0.41%
• Belly Dancer Veil: 6 - 0.82%
• Chub Loon: 6 - 0.82%
• Enveloping Scales: 3 - 0.41%
• Feathered Headdress: 3 - 0.41%
• Golden Eye Guar: 4 - 0.54%
• Hedge Wizard's Claw Cap: 4 - 0.54%
• High-Collared Ball Gown: 5 - 0.68%
• Palomino Horse: 5 - 0.68%
• Purple Daggerback: 2 - 0.27%
• Shadow Stripe Headwrap: 4 - 0.54%
• Storm Orb Juggle: 7 - 0.95%
• The Aurbic Eye: 7 - 0.95%
• Upright Antler Skullcap: 8 - 1.09%

Legendary

• Black Mane Lion Mount: 3 - 0.41%
• Black Mask Bear-Dog: 3 - 0.41%
• Clouded Senche-Leopard: 3 - 0.41%
• Clouded Senche-Leopard Cub: 3 - 0.41%
• Dwarf-Style Mage's Hat: 5 - 0.68%
• Frost Mare: 3 - 0.41%
• Imperial Mananaut Cap & Googles: 3 - 0.41%
• Mind-Shriven (skin): 2 - 0.27%
• Mind-Shriven Horse: 6 - 0.82%
• Orchid Nixad: 1 - 0.14%
• Red Pit Wolf Mount: 3 - 0.41%
• Red Pit Wolf Pup: 2 - 0.27%
• Rosy Netch Calf: 2 - 0.27%
• Storm Atronach Transform: 3 - 0.41%
• Tangerine Dragon Frog: 1 - 0.14%

Apex

• Storm Atronach Bear Mount: 3 - 0.41%
• Storm Atronach Camel: 0 - 0.00%
• Storm Atronach Guar Mount: 2 - 0.27%
• Storm Atronach Horse: 1 - 0.14%
• Storm Atronach Senche Mount: 2 - 0.27%
• Storm Atronach Wolf Mount : 3 - 0.41%

Don't get swayed by individual results. This is why we are collecting as large a sample set as possible and why we need people to report everything.

ericprydz82ub17_ESO

Valethar wrote: »

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

BUT - it has to be honest data - if anyone lies (maybe they don't want others to know how much they spent on crates, or maybe they want to hate crates and don't want to admit what good stuff they got) it will damage the results significantly because these are very small numbers.

You won't get 100% honesty in the numbers reported, and there's no way to vet the numbers to ensure their validity. Best to go into this knowing that there's going to be a significant margin of error, and that any results tabulated from the data are going to be estimates rather than absolutes.

The only people who will have accurate data are the ones who likely won't to be sharing it.

https://www.twitch.tv/late_nite_tough_guy/v/104542176

That is about as accurate as you will get. I got 3 Atro mounts (really 4 but one was a duplicate) The trade in for the Apex level items was 133 crown gems out of the 400 needed to purchase at that level. I spent 40k crowns and spent about 30 minutes opening/converting. You can see how often you get duplicates even early on. All together you get a lot of decent items but maybe not the items you want. I think 30 crates is roughly enough to get 1 Apex tiered mount with 45 crates being enough to at least convert enough items to get the mount you want.

Hopefully the video helps enough people and gives them a good visual of what to expect.

Amyxleexownsxu

**Edit Bought 15 more** so 30 total

Opened 30 crates, got a lot of repeated stuff since I own almost everything.
Notable loot:
Atro bear
Atro Senche
Black mane lion
Belly Dancer mask
Chub Loon
Mind Shriven horse (which I had)
Purple daggerback
Black bear dog
And a grand crown xp scroll

(and after all that i had 207 gems)

Seems pretty good drop rates good job ZOS!!

Jciampi

Ok. Made my purchases. Then ate Lunch real quick.

I bought 30. Got a ton of repeats. Seemed to be 3 consumables to one cosmetic item for most cases.

Bought 30
Mounts gained - 3
Pets gained - 3
Cosmetic items (including. Repeats) 30
Consumables (including repeats) 88
Bonus crates 3

Mounts gained - black Main lion mount, mind shriven horse, Palomino horse

Pets - daedric scamp, dagger back, chub loon

Woeler

15 boxes, got atro camel. Friend of mine 1 box got wolf. It's alright.

Abeille

What is the conversation rate for consumables?

jkolb2030

What can you buy with the gems from the conversions?

Specific items from the crown crates? Or do they just have the same value as regular crowns, and are only able to be spent on normal crown store items?

merryblues

I'm not so sure about the crates, but I wanted to buy 5k worth = 15 crates and post here for the number cruncher's.

1. Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Crown Lesson: Riding Speed
Crown Mimic Stone
Shornhelm Shepherd

2. Crown Crate Refreshing Drink
Crown Lethal Poison (25)
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Fibonaccus Spiral Hat

3. Crown Mimic Stone
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Azure Brow-to-Temple Circlet

4. Azure Brow-to-Temple Circlet = Crown Gems (5) Repeat
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Mimic Stone
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)

^ (5 Card Crate) 5. Crown Lethal Poison (25)
Wrestler's Buzz Cut
Aurbical Symbols
Crown Crate Fortifying Meal
Crown Crate Refreshing Drink

6. Crown Warrior's Elixir
Crown Crate Refreshing Drink
Shornhelm Shepherd = Crown Gems (5) Repeat
Crown Lethal Poison (25)

7. Roostertail Frills
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Soul Gem

8. Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Crate Experienc Scroll
Soul-Shriven Armor Outfit
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)

9. Crown Lesson: Riding Speed
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Lesson: Riding Speed
Roostertail Frills = Crown Gems (5) Repeat

10. Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Shadow Striping
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Lesson: Riding Speed

11. Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Crate Refreshing Drink
Shadow Striping = Crown Gems (5) Repeat
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)

12. Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Jawbone Blades
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Crown Crate Experience Scroll

13. Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Fivonaccus Spiral Hat = Crown Gems (5) Repeat
Crown Lesson: Riding Capacity
Crown Lethal Poison (25)

14. Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Crown Crate Experience Scroll
Crown Repair Kit
Shornhelm Shepherd = Crown Gems (5) Repeat

15. Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Battlemage Tribune Armor
Crown Lesson: Riding Speed
Crown Crate Fortifying Meal

So that's it. 5000 crowns down the drain. Hope this info helps.

Bryanonymous

Palindiil wrote: »

So what is the conversion rate of consumables to gems, then?

Abeille wrote: »

What is the conversation rate for consumables?

Someone please answer these.

Hammy01

Abeille wrote: »

What is the conversation rate for consumables?

This is just off the top of my head but - item/gem

Potions - 5/1
Poisons - 25/1
scroll - 1/1
food - 10/1 (not sure about this one)

DrSweetazz

Opened 30 boxes, here's results:

Stamina Riding Lesson
Daedric Scamp-2
Tri Resto potions-30
Sepllcaster elixir-60
Wrestler's Buzz Cut-2
Lethal Poison-200
Invisibility Potion-35
Warrior Elixir-85
Survivor Elixir-40
Mind Shriven Horse-2
Battlemage Scout Captain Uniform-4
Storm Atro Senche Mount-1
Mimic Stone-3
Experience Scroll-4
Evening Dress-2
Shadow Stripe Headwrap-1
Battlemage Tribune Armor-1
Feathered Bycoket Cap-3
Crown Repair Kit-5
Palomino Horse-1
Roostertail Frills-4
Soul Gem-5
Fortifying meal-4
Red Pit Wolf Mount-2
Soul Shriven Armor-1
Clever Man Wizard Hat-2
Brilliance Brocade Robe-1
Black Mane Lion Mount-1
Soul Shriven Ragged Clothing-1
Storm Atro Aura-1
Refreshing Drink-3
Soul Shriven Leather Outfit-2
Battlemage Palatine Armor-1
Speed Riding Lesson-1
Major EXP Scroll-1
Bellydancer Veil-1
Azure Brow to temple circlet-1
Jawbone Blades-1
Frost Mare-1
Golden Eye Guar-1

Included in the above numbers already, here's my 5th card rewards:

Storm Atro Senche Mount-1
Shadow Stripe Headwrap-1
Palomino Horse-1
Black Mane Lion-1
Major EXP scroll-1
Red pit wolf mount 1

I already owned a few things (the important ones for gem conversion would be the mind shriven horse and the ice horse). After converting all consumables, i ended with 295 gems