Speed hacks and infinite health hacks on PS4?

Wreuntzylla

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

Unless you had an AoE snare, I don't know what your point is? I don't see any caltrops in that vid.

Does it look suspicious? Sure. I even encourage you to report it. But I wouldn't call it a hack until I made a perfect runspeed build and gauged how fast I could move.

As far as the no health loss, ZoS struggles with bugs all the time. In 2.6.5 they fixed immortality using the immortality set... In order to see if it's a problem on PS4 you have to both know if it carried over and if the PC patch made it to PS4 yet. In the following case, I don't see it in a PS4 patch, but I don't know if it existed on PS4.

2.6.5: "Fixed an issue where you could become invulnerable while wearing the Eternal Warrior or Immortal Warrior item sets."

W0lf_z13

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

i currently run 5x fiords with slotting rapids and hurricane on my orc stam sorc ... its pretty fast as is, without the steed mundus... was thinking of trying it with that though... would be hilarious

Wreuntzylla

Sandman929 wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

Hard to tell on the video. Slightly faster than mounted speed like @Wreuntzylla says is possible might look like this on the limited field of vision. Running through AoE wouldn't slow them down either, only initiating an attack would break rapids. Anyway, I don't know because I've never tried being as speedy as possible.
Vicious Ophidian just gives the same Major Expedition as Rapid Maneuvers, but he would have had to kill something first. If it's legit, I think it has to be an Orc with Jailbreaker, Fiords, Windrunning, and the Steed and lots of divines.

It's easy enough to test. Since I was slightly slower than a horse with rapids, someone with jailbreaker can hop on a max speed mount and hit rapids.

Edit: Nvm, forgot hurricane grants minor expedition.

Kutsuu

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

I don't know why you keep mentioning VO. VO gives the same effect that Rapid Manuevers does (Major Expedition), but you have to kill mobs to get it.

SilentBoomstick

Kutsuu wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

I don't know why you keep mentioning VO. VO gives the same effect that Rapid Manuevers does (Major Expedition), but you have to kill mobs to get it.

I mention vicious ophidian because you get 75% movement speed with this set. Don't lie, this movement speed is definitely not legit because we would have seen him keep going instead of a huge burst and then he's gone. I saw a screen shot by the way. This guy was a magicka user wearing light armor and duel wield plus he was a vampire, definitely not an orc. You cannot tell me that this is not a hack at this point.

Edit: You do realize thhat the 75% movement speed you get with vicious ophidian DOES NOT STACK with other movement speeds?

SilentBoomstick

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

It's easy enough to test. Since I was slightly slower than a horse with rapids, someone with jailbreaker can hop on a max speed mount and hit rapids.

Edit: Nvm, forgot hurricane grants minor expedition.

Have you ever seen a guy on a horse just disappear after a second he passes by you (one that is fully upgraded with rapids)?

SilentBoomstick

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Unless you had an AoE snare, I don't know what your point is? I don't see any caltrops in that vid.

Does it look suspicious? Sure. I even encourage you to report it. But I wouldn't call it a hack until I made a perfect runspeed build and gauged how fast I could move.
My point is that he is a magplar and I am a nightblade, this guy runs right through us like it was nothing and then disappeared. Have you ever decided to just run right through 2 people dueling?

Jaybe_Mawfaka

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx1ihXOaY5c

You can't call this lag.

Edit: Sorry the video quality is really bad but I'm sure you can see it.

Kutsuu

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

I don't know why you keep mentioning VO. VO gives the same effect that Rapid Manuevers does (Major Expedition), but you have to kill mobs to get it.

I mention vicious ophidian because you get 75% movement speed with this set. Don't lie, this movement speed is definitely not legit because we would have seen him keep going instead of a huge burst and then he's gone. I saw a screen shot by the way. This guy was a magicka user wearing light armor and duel wield plus he was a vampire, definitely not an orc. You cannot tell me that this is not a hack at this point.

Edit: You do realize thhat the 75% movement speed you get with vicious ophidian DOES NOT STACK with other movement speeds?

You don't even know how Vicious Ophidian works, but you're trying to explain that it's impossible to attain faster than horse speed while sprinting. See if you can read this. I know it's really hard, but give it a try - I'll highlight the important part to make it easier.

"When you kill an enemy, you restore 2150 Stamina and gain Major Expeditionfor 20 seconds, increasing your Movement Speed by 30%. "

SilentBoomstick

Kutsuu wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

I don't know why you keep mentioning VO. VO gives the same effect that Rapid Manuevers does (Major Expedition), but you have to kill mobs to get it.

I mention vicious ophidian because you get 75% movement speed with this set. Don't lie, this movement speed is definitely not legit because we would have seen him keep going instead of a huge burst and then he's gone. I saw a screen shot by the way. This guy was a magicka user wearing light armor and duel wield plus he was a vampire, definitely not an orc. You cannot tell me that this is not a hack at this point.

Edit: You do realize thhat the 75% movement speed you get with vicious ophidian DOES NOT STACK with other movement speeds?

You don't even know how Vicious Ophidian works, but you're trying to explain that it's impossible to attain faster than horse speed while sprinting. See if you can read this. I know it's really hard, but give it a try - I'll highlight the important part to make it easier.

"When you kill an enemy, you restore 2150 Stamina and gain Major Expeditionfor 20 seconds, increasing your Movement Speed by 30%. "

I skimmed over it really lightly. Anyways you do realize that you cannot stack major expeditions on another major expedition? Once you obtain any kind of movement speed buff it does not stack with another movement speed buff. As I said early this was not a stamsorc and it was not an orc plus it was a magicka user.

I wish I knew how to post the screenshot from my playstation onto this website but I don't know how to. This guy running past us appeared to have a robe with pale skin and two swords equipped. Also I saw no buff on this guy such as the wind looking thing you get from dodge rolling with a bow or the thing you get with rapids. I have no idea why you are not convinced that this is not legit movement speed. Even if he had all that stuff to keep him running we would have seen this guy keep running. Oh and if it was a nightblade? My friend has that thing enabled that shows who is from what alliance so he would have seen him because this individual appeared to be on the daggerfall side. He would have seen him if he were to enter stealth. It's a good photo, very clear. However it was not good enough because he was not aiming at this individuals PSN.

NativeJoe

You said you where in Deep Daggerfall territory and yellow owned map... I'd probably Use a few of the quest "buffs" for speed, put on speed running set like fiords and jailbreaker and make a run for it. And Yeah with the quest buffs you can run faster then any mount assuming they don't have cyrodils ward.

But yes this is also what "cheating" looks like as well. Cheat engine players on PC often are seen doing the same thing. but it could be legit~ just saying. As for the "infinite health" video I watched it and saw nothing out of place. The fact you didn't have a burst combo was killing me inside tho.

Sandman929

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Out of curiosity, has anyone here tested fiords? Is it possible to have that set+major expedition+orc+windrunning and achieve something "flash-like" as in the video?

No matter how much movement speed you can stack you will never obtain that much movement speed in a legit way. Oh and this guy ran right through both of our AOES and it did not slow him down so yeah it's obvious that this is a hack.

Vicious Ophidian would give you a lot of movement speed but we would have seen the guy actually continue running instead of a great burst right by us and then gone after that.

I don't know why you keep mentioning VO. VO gives the same effect that Rapid Manuevers does (Major Expedition), but you have to kill mobs to get it.

I mention vicious ophidian because you get 75% movement speed with this set. Don't lie, this movement speed is definitely not legit because we would have seen him keep going instead of a huge burst and then he's gone. I saw a screen shot by the way. This guy was a magicka user wearing light armor and duel wield plus he was a vampire, definitely not an orc. You cannot tell me that this is not a hack at this point.

Edit: You do realize thhat the 75% movement speed you get with vicious ophidian DOES NOT STACK with other movement speeds?

You don't even know how Vicious Ophidian works, but you're trying to explain that it's impossible to attain faster than horse speed while sprinting. See if you can read this. I know it's really hard, but give it a try - I'll highlight the important part to make it easier.

"When you kill an enemy, you restore 2150 Stamina and gain Major Expeditionfor 20 seconds, increasing your Movement Speed by 30%. "

I skimmed over it really lightly. Anyways you do realize that you cannot stack major expeditions on another major expedition? Once you obtain any kind of movement speed buff it does not stack with another movement speed buff. As I said early this was not a stamsorc and it was not an orc plus it was a magicka user.

I wish I knew how to post the screenshot from my playstation onto this website but I don't know how to. This guy running past us appeared to have a robe with pale skin and two swords equipped. Also I saw no buff on this guy such as the wind looking thing you get from dodge rolling with a bow or the thing you get with rapids. I have no idea why you are not convinced that this is not legit movement speed. Even if he had all that stuff to keep him running we would have seen this guy keep running. Oh and if it was a nightblade? My friend has that thing enabled that shows who is from what alliance so he would have seen him because this individual appeared to be on the daggerfall side. He would have seen him if he were to enter stealth. It's a good photo, very clear. However it was not good enough because he was not aiming at this individuals PSN.

We know you can't stack Major Expeditions, which is why bringing up VO as some sort of possibility to explain the speed was confusing. And now bringing up the Hasty Retreat passive is also confusing, you're just describing the same buffs already covered with many sources of Major and Minor Expedition. All of that can be covered with and Orc (of any class, magicka or stamina) using Jailbreaker (or any other source of Minor Expedition), Fiords (15% speed), Rapids (Major Expedition), Windrunning (2% speed), and the Steed mundus (max 7.625% speed with all gold Divines).
When you start saying things like VO gives 75% movement speed, it just confuses things because that's not true.

I don't know if the speed is legit, because I've never built this specifically to see how fast it is. The video quality is poor and all I can see is another player running very quickly through a small field of vision. Maybe a max speed build looks like this.

Not everyone is going to jump on the "there are console hackers in our midst!" bandwagon based on this kind of evidence. Maybe, maybe not.

Stoopid_Nwah

Just took this yesterday when I had a bit of lag (not that noticeable) in a public dungeon farming for necropotence. Again not saying not to report what you saw (quite the opposite as zos can look further into it and will have more of an idea of what it is) but if that person did have maxed out speed and there was just the tiniest little lag jump...

Also-after I logged out and back in, I saw the person in my video at 100% normal speeds, no more flash-like behavior so no naming/shaming intended here as they were not doing any sort of hack, just lag on my end and wanted to showcase that it can make characters look this fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF4YrgbpSyY

GreenSoup2HoT

@Stoopid_Nwah Its like macro slice. Ive had it lag real bad and 2 seconds later everyone on the map goes super speed to there new locations when my client catches up. It looks hilarious.

Wreuntzylla

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

It's easy enough to test. Since I was slightly slower than a horse with rapids, someone with jailbreaker can hop on a max speed mount and hit rapids.

Edit: Nvm, forgot hurricane grants minor expedition.

Have you ever seen a guy on a horse just disappear after a second he passes by you (one that is fully upgraded with rapids)?

I'll have to take your word on that. In your video you take a long time to turn around.

Stoopid_Nwah

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@Stoopid_Nwah Its like macro slice. Ive had it lag real bad and 2 seconds later everyone on the map goes super speed to there new locations when my client catches up. It looks hilarious.

Exactly like that. And while I was able to see my group member at normal speed and the mobs in the dungeon, that guy was still going crazy fast lol, it's buggy like that sometimes. Was just trying to let OP know it's possible it was something like this, even if they didn't feel like there was extreme lag occurring. But yeah, it's pretty amusing to watch everyone around you rubber band all over the place .

SilentBoomstick

NativeJoe wrote: »

You said you where in Deep Daggerfall territory and yellow owned map... I'd probably Use a few of the quest "buffs" for speed, put on speed running set like fiords and jailbreaker and make a run for it. And Yeah with the quest buffs you can run faster then any mount assuming they don't have cyrodils ward.

But yes this is also what "cheating" looks like as well. Cheat engine players on PC often are seen doing the same thing. but it could be legit~ just saying. As for the "infinite health" video I watched it and saw nothing out of place. The fact you didn't have a burst combo was killing me inside tho.

Dude 30 people were pounding on this dude for five minutes as he was running back from the keep that just got invaded all the way to the outpost that is safe. You cannot and will not tell me that is legit because his health bar was at 0% over and over again as 30 people were trying to kill him. As for the movement speed, this was not legit movement speed otherwise my friend would have seen him keep going.

SilentBoomstick

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

It's easy enough to test. Since I was slightly slower than a horse with rapids, someone with jailbreaker can hop on a max speed mount and hit rapids.

Edit: Nvm, forgot hurricane grants minor expedition.

Have you ever seen a guy on a horse just disappear after a second he passes by you (one that is fully upgraded with rapids)?

I'll have to take your word on that. In your video you take a long time to turn around.

He takes like 2 seconds to turn around so I don't know how long a long time is to turn around.

SilentBoomstick

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Just took this yesterday when I had a bit of lag (not that noticeable) in a public dungeon farming for necropotence. Again not saying not to report what you saw (quite the opposite as zos can look further into it and will have more of an idea of what it is) but if that person did have maxed out speed and there was just the tiniest little lag jump...

Also-after I logged out and back in, I saw the person in my video at 100% normal speeds, no more flash-like behavior so no naming/shaming intended here as they were not doing any sort of hack, just lag on my end and wanted to showcase that it can make characters look this fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF4YrgbpSyY

I'm pretty sure that is the vicious ophidian set because whenever you kill something it makes your character fast as hell and also makes your arms light up white as you are moving.

Stoopid_Nwah

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Just took this yesterday when I had a bit of lag (not that noticeable) in a public dungeon farming for necropotence. Again not saying not to report what you saw (quite the opposite as zos can look further into it and will have more of an idea of what it is) but if that person did have maxed out speed and there was just the tiniest little lag jump...

Also-after I logged out and back in, I saw the person in my video at 100% normal speeds, no more flash-like behavior so no naming/shaming intended here as they were not doing any sort of hack, just lag on my end and wanted to showcase that it can make characters look this fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF4YrgbpSyY

I'm pretty sure that is the vicious ophidian set because whenever you kill something it makes your character fast as hell and also makes your arms light up white as you are moving.

Vicious serpent doesn't make you near teleport speed. It just grants major expedition. I do believe the guy in the video is wearing the set however (the green glow and white lines) but that's not really the point; I'm saying that set+a bit of lag makes it look like he's twenty times faster than he should be.

SilentBoomstick

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Vicious serpent doesn't make you near teleport speed. It just grants major expedition. I do believe the guy in the video is wearing the set however (the green glow and white lines) but that's not really the point; I'm saying that set+a bit of lag makes it look like he's twenty times faster than he should be.

If this was lag why the hell would this guy just decide to run right through us like the flash? Ask yourself and think logically if that makes any sense. Have you ever decide to just run right through 2 people in the middle of a duel? It took at least 3 seconds for my friend to turn around and after he turned around we didn't see him, no trace, no nothing. Does this make any sense at all? Also there is no lag in that campaign. I have never experienced any lag whatsoever in that campaign because it is dead. Lag only appears if there are too many people in one instance at a time and there wasn't any.

Sandman929

Since the only explanation you seem even remotely interested in having validated is the one you reached already: Fine, it's a hack.

Stoopid_Nwah

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Vicious serpent doesn't make you near teleport speed. It just grants major expedition. I do believe the guy in the video is wearing the set however (the green glow and white lines) but that's not really the point; I'm saying that set+a bit of lag makes it look like he's twenty times faster than he should be.

If this was lag why the hell would this guy just decide to run right through us like the flash? Ask yourself and think logically if that makes any sense. Have you ever decide to just run right through 2 people in the middle of a duel? It took at least 3 seconds for my friend to turn around and after he turned around we didn't see him, no trace, no nothing. Does this make any sense at all? Also there is no lag in that campaign. I have never experienced any lag whatsoever in that campaign because it is dead. Lag only appears if there are too many people in one instance at a time and there wasn't any.

I've had lag in empty campaigns, in vMA at 3am, picking flowers in remote places, etc.

I am thinking logically, I implore you to do the same. I never said it was or wasn't a hack, I am simply trying to provide possible legit explanations rather than jump the gun and call foul play. You wouldn't believe how many gankers get reported just because someone can't comprehend how they died instantly.

Yes, I've absolutely trolled people and ran around in the middle of their duels. In fact, I enjoy nothing more than messing up duels in cyrodiil now that duelling exists.

I don't think you came here to ask what the video could possibly be, pretty sure you preferred the witch hunt route, MUST BE HACKZ!

Lokey0024

Do you know what packet manipulation is? Its not a IG script, but a manipulation of latency and server communication.

Think about this, why does a ddos work?

If its to much to wrap your brain around, lemme tldr it for you. Not everyone likes playing fair. Alot do, not all. And not everyones skill is pushing buttons on a keyboard/controller to play a game.

Stoopid_Nwah

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Do you know what packet manipulation is? Its not a IG script, but a manipulation of latency and server communication.

Think about this, why does a ddos work?

If its to much to wrap your brain around, lemme tldr it for you. Not everyone likes playing fair. Alot do, not all. And not everyones skill is pushing buttons on a keyboard/controller to play a game.

I'm not sure who you're directing your comments at, but if it's me I'll be the first to admit my background isn't in computer science but rather in mathematics, specifically algebraic structures, number theory and topology. So no, your comments are not too much for me to wrap my brain around.

I never once said it wasn't a hack. I said to the OP that if they didn't want responses that gave possible ideas of what it could have been outside of a hack, they never should have posted. Just report and move on.

Lokey0024

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Do you know what packet manipulation is? Its not a IG script, but a manipulation of latency and server communication.

Think about this, why does a ddos work?

If its to much to wrap your brain around, lemme tldr it for you. Not everyone likes playing fair. Alot do, not all. And not everyones skill is pushing buttons on a keyboard/controller to play a game.

I'm not sure who you're directing your comments at, but if it's me I'll be the first to admit my background isn't in computer science but rather in mathematics, specifically algebraic structures, number theory and topology. So no, your comments are not too much for me to wrap my brain around.

I never once said it wasn't a hack. I said to the OP that if they didn't want responses that gave possible ideas of what it could have been outside of a hack, they never should have posted. Just report and move on.

Saying in general so naysayers dont make someone with a legit complant second guess. As far as you go, dunno.

geonsocal

crazy idea (oh, I have closet full of 'em )...any way that it could be "streak" related...that's kinda what it reminded me of...

Stoopid_Nwah

geonsocal wrote: »

crazy idea (oh, I have closet full of 'em )...any way that it could be "streak" related...that's kinda what it reminded me of...

I was curious too at first about that, but one/both of them in the video would have been stunned (if the streak morph) or the ball of lightning orb would have been somewhere. The flash also would've been a bit more stop and go as you're mini rooted after each streak. Definitely looks more like running due to the fluidity.

SilentBoomstick

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

crazy idea (oh, I have closet full of 'em )...any way that it could be "streak" related...that's kinda what it reminded me of...

I was curious too at first about that, but one/both of them in the video would have been stunned (if the streak morph) or the ball of lightning orb would have been somewhere. The flash also would've been a bit more stop and go as you're mini rooted after each streak. Definitely looks more like running due to the fluidity.

The point is we would have seen this guy keep going instead of a great burst and then gone after 2 seconds. Also since this keep was AD and this guy was DC the guards would have been easily triggered and would have slowed him down.

SilentBoomstick

You all talk about these buffs that were active. Take a look at this screen shot and ask yourself if you see any buffs that were active on this guy. As you can clearly tell this guy is on the same alliance as my friend so he would have seen him and the guards would have been triggered.

No buffs, no nothing. In fact I think this guy was probably a lower level.