Most OP Meta Spec Of All Time?

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DocFrost72

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

The original vampire DKs. Pretty sure CE would fail to kill them.

Reverb

Other(Please Explain

The early days (1.2 maybe?) bugged, Blazing Shield bash Templar. Didn't even need to slot other skills. Just BS and bash-bash-bash everyone to death.

Derra

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Since you´re combining 1.0 to 1.5 it´s def magDK.

Kelces

Other(Please Explain

Pulsar-Vampire Online!

Ishammael

Patch2.5 (Current Day) Stam Sorcerer

I guess I considered this a post 1.2 question.

But... At launch the zero ult cost bat Sorcs were a bit ridiculous.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Other(Please Explain

I'd say sorcs back in the days when they could just have 100% uptime on batswarm. With early game mag dks on a close second spot.

BurritoESO

Other(Please Explain

Anything with black rose and proc sets

EdTerra

Patch 1.6 Magicka Sorcerer

1.6 sorc were invincibles, if u died in 1v1 against other classes, it was clearly a l2p issue

the current meta is horrible also, but they are not as strong as 1.6 sorc

cschwingeb14_ESO

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

4 ulti cost bat swarm sorcs get an honorable mention, but that build did not last long

Nothing can compare to perma-block/reflect, invasion, talons, whip, exploit(aka whip follow-up) DKs. Both for solo play and group play. My friend and I ran a special gear setup just to deal with these guys (undaunted unweaver with resto)

They were 50% of the PvP leaderboards for two whole patch cycles

Methariorn

Other: the elder scrolls dk online at start, when they could do 40vs1 most stupid thing I've see in a mmorpg with 1.6 infinity blink sorc and 1 shot proc 2.5 build.

Rune_Relic

DocFrost72 wrote: »

The original vampire DKs. Pretty sure CE would fail to kill them.

You know I still get a tic everytime someone mentions them.
I get flashbacks to PvP.

Vaoh

Patch2.5 (Current Day) Stam Sorcerer

Not just Stam Sorcs.

• 2x Tremorscale
• 5x Viper's Sting (3 jewelry, 1H/S)
• 5x Black Rose (5 Impen armor)
OR
• 5x Widowmaker (5 Impen armor)

This is the most OP build ever possible in ESO. It has all of the tankiness, all of the burst damage, all of the healing, and all of the resources. No weakness. Unfair af.

DocFrost72

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Rune_Relic wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

The original vampire DKs. Pretty sure CE would fail to kill them.

You know I still get a tic everytime someone mentions them.
I get flashbacks to PvP.

I'm so sorry for your poor rear, to have fought them. I intelligently stayed far, far away.

Derra

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Vaoh wrote: »

Not just Stam Sorcs.

• 2x Tremorscale
• 5x Viper's Sting (3 jewelry, 1H/S)
• 5x Black Rose (5 Impen armor)
OR
• 5x Widowmaker (5 Impen armor)

This is the most OP build ever possible in ESO. It has all of the tankiness, all of the burst damage, all of the healing, and all of the resources. No weakness. Unfair af.

The problem lies with 1h+shield being a too potent offensive weapon choice imo.

Could be solved by having 1h weapons (mace, dagger, sword, axe) provide only ~760 base weapondmg. DW could be changed to be flatout additive resulting in no change for DW but a nerf of 450 weapondmg for 1h + shield.

Cinbri

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Still hard to compare as templar coz back in time mDKs was unbeatable top in open world but yet was easiest enemy for templar in 1v1 coz their "things" worked back in time.

mtwiggz

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Pre 1.6 mDK hands down.

Kaghei

Other(Please Explain

Launch DK and Vampires hands down. No contest.
Sorc Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U (Pryda)
DK Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZsIDSSGV4 (Neighbour)
Reg DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiG-O6NUjc (Luvboard)

I sincerely hope you all watch those videos and stop complaining about Proc sets. It was far worse at launch.

Ishammael

Patch2.5 (Current Day) Stam Sorcerer

Kaghei wrote: »

Launch DK and Vampires hands down. No contest.
Sorc Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U (Pryda)
DK Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZsIDSSGV4 (Neighbour)
Reg DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiG-O6NUjc (Luvboard)

I sincerely hope you all watch those videos and stop complaining about Proc sets. It was far worse at launch.

This is why I caveated my answer. After about 1.3 things had settled quite a bit.

For sure launch DK camp was absolutely most broken spec, by at least an order of magnitude.

After that, I think the current proc spec fits in at #2 with the 1.6 sorc close behind.

danno8

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Kaghei wrote: »

Launch DK and Vampires hands down. No contest.
Sorc Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U (Pryda)
DK Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZsIDSSGV4 (Neighbour)
Reg DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiG-O6NUjc (Luvboard)

I sincerely hope you all watch those videos and stop complaining about Proc sets. It was far worse at launch.

Watch in particular in the last video how fast the ultimate regeneration is (it was not quite blocked out by the player who made the video).

Drop standard, 5 seconds or less (sometime 1s or less ) you get another standard, over and over.

mDK at the time was outrageous. Infinite reflect, infinite Standard, infinite resources. There really is no comparison and they come out on top imo as all time OP builds.

AverageJo3Gam3r

Other(Please Explain

Never experienced the game prior to IC, but I'd say the pre-nerf prox det VD bombblade builds. Only because I'd get punished by another players bad build or poor playstyle.

rfennell_ESO

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

If you think the current "meta" of the no skill stamina sorc playstyle is OP and bad... you either didn't pay attention or weren't playing when ultimate builder magicka dks were taking on raids with their no limit to reflects wings and devouring swarm spam all while perma blocking.

It was so bad that raids (large group+ numbers) had to use resto staves to kill them while spreading out... because being in melee range was just devouring swam heals.

Xsorus

Derra wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Not just Stam Sorcs.

• 2x Tremorscale
• 5x Viper's Sting (3 jewelry, 1H/S)
• 5x Black Rose (5 Impen armor)
OR
• 5x Widowmaker (5 Impen armor)

This is the most OP build ever possible in ESO. It has all of the tankiness, all of the burst damage, all of the healing, and all of the resources. No weakness. Unfair af.

The problem lies with 1h+shield being a too potent offensive weapon choice imo.

Could be solved by having 1h weapons (mace, dagger, sword, axe) provide only ~760 base weapondmg. DW could be changed to be flatout additive resulting in no change for DW but a nerf of 450 weapondmg for 1h + shield.

ummm What....1hd only does the damage it does because of tremorscale/vipers sting/widowmaker combos....If you drop the weapon damage ZERO will change...only you've now made non proc builds worse and force them into going Procs.

HoloYoitsu

Xsorus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Not just Stam Sorcs.

• 2x Tremorscale
• 5x Viper's Sting (3 jewelry, 1H/S)
• 5x Black Rose (5 Impen armor)
OR
• 5x Widowmaker (5 Impen armor)

This is the most OP build ever possible in ESO. It has all of the tankiness, all of the burst damage, all of the healing, and all of the resources. No weakness. Unfair af.

The problem lies with 1h+shield being a too potent offensive weapon choice imo.

Could be solved by having 1h weapons (mace, dagger, sword, axe) provide only ~760 base weapondmg. DW could be changed to be flatout additive resulting in no change for DW but a nerf of 450 weapondmg for 1h + shield.

ummm What....1hd only does the damage it does because of tremorscale/vipers sting/widowmaker combos....If you drop the weapon damage ZERO will change...only you've now made non proc builds worse and force them into going Procs.

^ This. The proc sets are static damage amounts, they don't scale on your dmg/max stats. It's the pinnacle of Wrobel's lazy design process.

DHale

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

This type of damage was in five warlock five seducer in purple vr12. All light, it was sooooooo fun.

Derra

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Not just Stam Sorcs.

• 2x Tremorscale
• 5x Viper's Sting (3 jewelry, 1H/S)
• 5x Black Rose (5 Impen armor)
OR
• 5x Widowmaker (5 Impen armor)

This is the most OP build ever possible in ESO. It has all of the tankiness, all of the burst damage, all of the healing, and all of the resources. No weakness. Unfair af.

The problem lies with 1h+shield being a too potent offensive weapon choice imo.

Could be solved by having 1h weapons (mace, dagger, sword, axe) provide only ~760 base weapondmg. DW could be changed to be flatout additive resulting in no change for DW but a nerf of 450 weapondmg for 1h + shield.

ummm What....1hd only does the damage it does because of tremorscale/vipers sting/widowmaker combos....If you drop the weapon damage ZERO will change...only you've now made non proc builds worse and force them into going Procs.

^ This. The proc sets are static damage amounts, they don't scale on your dmg/max stats. It's the pinnacle of Wrobel's lazy design process.

Even if you remove the lazy proccsets 1h+shield is the best offensive weaponchoice because of how well it combines offense and defense with a little tad of utility.

If people could only utilize one procc set they´d still all be running 1h+shield because of all the other benefits it offers. Imo it should not offer comparable offense to DW or 2h which it currently does while also having secondary benefits.

Another option would be to remove damage from bashing completely when not interrupting anything.

mtwiggz

Pre Patch 1.6 Mag DK

Kaghei wrote: »

Launch DK and Vampires hands down. No contest.
Sorc Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U (Pryda)
DK Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZsIDSSGV4 (Neighbour)
Reg DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiG-O6NUjc (Luvboard)

I sincerely hope you all watch those videos and stop complaining about Proc sets. It was far worse at launch.

Those videos bring back horrifying nightmares.

Reverb

Other(Please Explain

Kaghei wrote: »

Launch DK and Vampires hands down. No contest.
Sorc Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U (Pryda)
DK Vamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZsIDSSGV4 (Neighbour)
Reg DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiG-O6NUjc (Luvboard)

I sincerely hope you all watch those videos and stop complaining about Proc sets. It was far worse at launch.

The permablock permabats was terrible. Just awful. How wrong is it that I'm a little nostalgic for that time in ESO?

FriedEggSandwich

Other(Please Explain

The 8x mundus meta combined with a free toggle from overload exploit. I'm glad that's over; pretty sure it's the main reason people thought sorcs were so op back then.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Other(Please Explain

Stam Sorcs were so last week. Beware of the shield stacking Magplar. You have been warned.

Xsorus

Derra wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Not just Stam Sorcs.

• 2x Tremorscale
• 5x Viper's Sting (3 jewelry, 1H/S)
• 5x Black Rose (5 Impen armor)
OR
• 5x Widowmaker (5 Impen armor)

This is the most OP build ever possible in ESO. It has all of the tankiness, all of the burst damage, all of the healing, and all of the resources. No weakness. Unfair af.

The problem lies with 1h+shield being a too potent offensive weapon choice imo.

Could be solved by having 1h weapons (mace, dagger, sword, axe) provide only ~760 base weapondmg. DW could be changed to be flatout additive resulting in no change for DW but a nerf of 450 weapondmg for 1h + shield.

ummm What....1hd only does the damage it does because of tremorscale/vipers sting/widowmaker combos....If you drop the weapon damage ZERO will change...only you've now made non proc builds worse and force them into going Procs.

^ This. The proc sets are static damage amounts, they don't scale on your dmg/max stats. It's the pinnacle of Wrobel's lazy design process.

Even if you remove the lazy proccsets 1h+shield is the best offensive weaponchoice because of how well it combines offense and defense with a little tad of utility.

If people could only utilize one procc set they´d still all be running 1h+shield because of all the other benefits it offers. Imo it should not offer comparable offense to DW or 2h which it currently does while also having secondary benefits.

Another option would be to remove damage from bashing completely when not interrupting anything.

That must be why before tremorscales came along everyone was using 1hd shield and no one used dw or two hander at all in pvp *grin*