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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Balance by Wrobel in 40 seconds

  • Alucardo
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    It's hard to agree because I can't stand perma-blocking builds, but DK abilities really are too damn expensive. I'm not sure where I stand in regards to Dragonblood. Embers heal is stupidly strong now, and rightfully so because Dragonblood is underperforming. However, if DB was immune to battle spirit AND they had embers as it currently is, there'd be way too much healing on a mDK.
    I'd be more open to removing battle spirit debuff from DB and turning it into a HoT, like Vigor. But not a straight fat heal with embers on top for another fat heal.
    Magicka DK skills definitely need their costs lowered somewhat, or at least a cost reduction passive that applies to the DK skill lines only.
  • Mauz
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    DKsUnite wrote: »
    Random dot (im guessing poison injection) which costs roughly 2k stamina (i think thats a fair assumption)
    Igenous shield = 3.4k magicka, Dragon blood = 3.6k magicka, Volatile Armour = 2.6k magicka
    I use 3 Dragon Bloods, 2 Igenous and a volatile armour to try to stop this dot from killing me
    3*3.6 + 2*3.4 + 2.6 = 20.2k magicka
    I use 20.2k magicka to stop myself from dying to a random dot placed by someone who doesnt even know it's ticking and where do i finish?
    I finish with about 50% health and 0 magicka....
    Cmon @Wrobel , i can't wait another 3 months of you parading around on your stamina NB while i can't even heal without wasting half of my magicka bar....
    It's been over a year like this and it will be another 3-6 months before you have a "balance update".... *** do it now not 6 months from now....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZdOottq4y4

    There's nothing to see of poison injection. You got hit by a siege when you jumped down.

    It's not a nightblade skill btw.

  • DKsUnite
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    Mauz wrote: »
    DKsUnite wrote: »
    Random dot (im guessing poison injection) which costs roughly 2k stamina (i think thats a fair assumption)
    Igenous shield = 3.4k magicka, Dragon blood = 3.6k magicka, Volatile Armour = 2.6k magicka
    I use 3 Dragon Bloods, 2 Igenous and a volatile armour to try to stop this dot from killing me
    3*3.6 + 2*3.4 + 2.6 = 20.2k magicka
    I use 20.2k magicka to stop myself from dying to a random dot placed by someone who doesnt even know it's ticking and where do i finish?
    I finish with about 50% health and 0 magicka....
    Cmon @Wrobel , i can't wait another 3 months of you parading around on your stamina NB while i can't even heal without wasting half of my magicka bar....
    It's been over a year like this and it will be another 3-6 months before you have a "balance update".... *** do it now not 6 months from now....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZdOottq4y4

    There's nothing to see of poison injection. You got hit by a siege when you jumped down.

    It's not a nightblade skill btw.

    Whether that's true or not, the point remains that Dragon blood is heavily underperforming and isn't in a balanced state and hasn't been for 1+ years. My stam DK gets 6k+ vigor crits which is more then an entire dragon blood heal....
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  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    Meanwhile my Magplar Wroblstomps across the map of Cyrodiil only stopping at Zerg Squad, a Stam DK or another Magplar.

    Until the next balance update I would recommend ditching Igneous and slot Efficient Purge and use a resto for Healing Ward instead of Dragon Blood. I know you already know that Vyr Cor and this video is a perfect showcase of Mag DK and it's an important one but DK heals are just a joke. Purge and shield stack are 5x better when there's no one to heal off of.

    @WillhelmBlack only issue with healing ward is you're not guaranteed to get it.
  • DocFrost72
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    Meanwhile my Magplar Wroblstomps across the map of Cyrodiil only stopping at Zerg Squad, a Stam DK or another Magplar.

    Until the next balance update I would recommend ditching Igneous and slot Efficient Purge and use a resto for Healing Ward instead of Dragon Blood. I know you already know that Vyr Cor and this video is a perfect showcase of Mag DK and it's an important one but DK heals are just a joke. Purge and shield stack are 5x better when there's no one to heal off of.

    @WillhelmBlack only issue with healing ward is you're not guaranteed to get it.

    In large scale, totally correct. In lag it is (I've been told) known to bug out and not even do anything as well. That said, in the situation the OP is in, it would have been extremely effective.
  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    Meanwhile my Magplar Wroblstomps across the map of Cyrodiil only stopping at Zerg Squad, a Stam DK, any stam baddie running heavy armor and a proc combo, or another Magplar.

    Fixed.

    So you're awesome against 10% of the players in cyrodiil ( the players running light or medium armor). Cool.
  • Destyran
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    mtwiggz wrote: »
    I've never been entirely sure why magicka abilities are so costly compared to stamina abilities. Even with the same CP allocation (mind you magicka v. stamina) magicka abilities are much more costly.

    Wrobel has no idea what he's doing. This issue is just the tip of the iceberg - which is straight ahead. There comes a point in everyone's life where it's better for the majority if you step down from a position. I believe he's reached this point. Granted most people would never do that.

    Simple, you use stamina for blocking, CC breaking, sprinting, and dodge rolling. If they costed the same, stamina would be at an enormous disadvantage. As it is currently, resource management for magicka is a ton easier unless you're a magDK because whip is stupid expensive.

    Lol why do mag only get 2 ccbreaks?
  • Rainingblood
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    It's always funny to see posts from people who give a long opinion, then note that they actually don't play the class in PvP, which negates everything they just said.

    DKs having to resort to a resto staff on their back bar is NOT the answer here...
    Phoebe Anderson
  • Rainingblood
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    Double post
    Edited by Rainingblood on 16 October 2016 17:44
    Phoebe Anderson
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