The problem with proc sets in general

Kas

ManDraKE wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

msa weapons are not viable for pvp unless you want to play with poisons (often frowned upon, better Xv1 than 1vX, also relatively bad in group v X) or in oen of the few builds that actually use the ability altering enchats. the pure weapn/spell damge is outclassed by classic enchats and utility / direct damage enchats can be very strong as well

all that said, my initial point stands: if viper was able to beat something like agility+mephala or agility+skoria in pve builds (pre velidreth and for people who didn't have VO/alkosh yet), than it's safe to say that it will completely outclass those in pvp where the 4second timer is much better aligned with your actual attacking speed

WHAT? lol, vMA weapons are BiS for 90% of the stamina builds, 2h+bow builds pretty much requires you to have a vMA 2h sharpened and a vMA/Master's bow, and DW dot builds are only viable with vMA daggers (stamdks and stamsorcs are running flurry builds a lot, the DPS is insane). The only kind of builds that don't have vMA as a BiS gear are 1h&s builds.

And your comparision with subpar PvE gear combinatio like agility+mephala is pointeless. If you are going to pull the PvE card, at least use actual BiS PvE gear for the comparision.

VMA weapons add 60 weapon damage to my build while losing out on the chance to proc my enchants and this is a stamina pvp 2h/bow build.

There's plenty of good dw builds without vma weapons.. like are you serious bro?

you really don't know what vMA weapons are for right? try testing the damage of trap beast with vma 1h weapons....

try to flurry a serious player...
it's possible to catch an enemy off-guard but certainly not popular and not a serious reason to question the strength of a set like viper.

WillhelmBlack

Most_Awesome wrote: »

Ambush>Block Cancel>Incap = Dead

Didn't even have a chance to cc break

Hey look it's my death recap from every time I've been killed in Cyrodiil this month.

ManDraKE

Kas wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

msa weapons are not viable for pvp unless you want to play with poisons (often frowned upon, better Xv1 than 1vX, also relatively bad in group v X) or in oen of the few builds that actually use the ability altering enchats. the pure weapn/spell damge is outclassed by classic enchats and utility / direct damage enchats can be very strong as well

all that said, my initial point stands: if viper was able to beat something like agility+mephala or agility+skoria in pve builds (pre velidreth and for people who didn't have VO/alkosh yet), than it's safe to say that it will completely outclass those in pvp where the 4second timer is much better aligned with your actual attacking speed

WHAT? lol, vMA weapons are BiS for 90% of the stamina builds, 2h+bow builds pretty much requires you to have a vMA 2h sharpened and a vMA/Master's bow, and DW dot builds are only viable with vMA daggers (stamdks and stamsorcs are running flurry builds a lot, the DPS is insane). The only kind of builds that don't have vMA as a BiS gear are 1h&s builds.

And your comparision with subpar PvE gear combinatio like agility+mephala is pointeless. If you are going to pull the PvE card, at least use actual BiS PvE gear for the comparision.

VMA weapons add 60 weapon damage to my build while losing out on the chance to proc my enchants and this is a stamina pvp 2h/bow build.

There's plenty of good dw builds without vma weapons.. like are you serious bro?

you really don't know what vMA weapons are for right? try testing the damage of trap beast with vma 1h weapons....

try to flurry a serious player...
it's possible to catch an enemy off-guard but certainly not popular and not a serious reason to question the strength of a set like viper.

uh? catch an enemy off guard to use flurry? WUT? with that reasoning, jabs are also for "catching people off guard"
I'm done dude, you seems to be playing a complete different game.

Kas

ManDraKE wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

msa weapons are not viable for pvp unless you want to play with poisons (often frowned upon, better Xv1 than 1vX, also relatively bad in group v X) or in oen of the few builds that actually use the ability altering enchats. the pure weapn/spell damge is outclassed by classic enchats and utility / direct damage enchats can be very strong as well

all that said, my initial point stands: if viper was able to beat something like agility+mephala or agility+skoria in pve builds (pre velidreth and for people who didn't have VO/alkosh yet), than it's safe to say that it will completely outclass those in pvp where the 4second timer is much better aligned with your actual attacking speed

WHAT? lol, vMA weapons are BiS for 90% of the stamina builds, 2h+bow builds pretty much requires you to have a vMA 2h sharpened and a vMA/Master's bow, and DW dot builds are only viable with vMA daggers (stamdks and stamsorcs are running flurry builds a lot, the DPS is insane). The only kind of builds that don't have vMA as a BiS gear are 1h&s builds.

And your comparision with subpar PvE gear combinatio like agility+mephala is pointeless. If you are going to pull the PvE card, at least use actual BiS PvE gear for the comparision.

VMA weapons add 60 weapon damage to my build while losing out on the chance to proc my enchants and this is a stamina pvp 2h/bow build.

There's plenty of good dw builds without vma weapons.. like are you serious bro?

you really don't know what vMA weapons are for right? try testing the damage of trap beast with vma 1h weapons....

try to flurry a serious player...
it's possible to catch an enemy off-guard but certainly not popular and not a serious reason to question the strength of a set like viper.

uh? catch an enemy off guard to use flurry? WUT? with that reasoning, jabs are also for "catching people off guard"
I'm done dude, you seems to be playing a complete different game.

nah, catch them off guard by your fully buffed trap and the high damage. but we're done since you split nothing but baseless claims. your posts are off-topic starting with the very first one to begin with