Why ESO is getting worse patch, after patch, instead of better.(PvP)

Lokey0024

What is more cheesy then being 100-0 out of stealth, the 1.6 meta nb? Or the perma block tank dk (which morphed into templar strangly enough) or the Shield stacking sorc flying to the horizon the second its healthbar was touched? Or the best "holy crap was that a thing" change was a lv 300-700 cp player fighting no cp opponents on consoles on release with no catch up mechanics or cp caps.

Think you might wanna rethink the flip statement

Vaoh

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

Im sorry let me rephrase my question.

Where do people find or get OP sets ? And who tells them its OP ?

1) The sets are purchaseable for minor amounts of AP/Tel Var, purchaseable from players for gold, or are very easily farmable in CP160 Purple-quality from Normal mode trials. Thank ZOS for allowing these OP sets to be obtained with little effort. You can easily get CP160 Purple versions of any of the overperforming sets in half a day of farming.

2) No one tells you it is OP at first. Word spreads after people start using their common sense, realizing that a set is overperforming and is simply too powerful. Then it becomes high demand because every wants to use the new OP set ZOS is too stibborn to fix because #StaminaMeta

EnOeZ

People, don't get angry about each other.
It's the game combat and PVP development that is worsening.

Some players exploit it (Viper+velidreth stam blades..) and like it, believing they are top-skilled and Wrobel is happy.
Others are looking, hoping, asking for some talented designer to take over the combat department and launch an overhaul.

I am in the second group.

MalakithAlamahdi

EnOeZ wrote: »

People, don't get angry about each other.
It's the game combat and PVP development that is worsening.

Some players exploit it (Viper+velidreth stam blades..) and like it, believing they are top-skilled and Wrobel is happy.
Others are looking, hoping, asking for some talented designer to take over the combat department and launch an overhaul.

I am in the second group.

I want to press the "agree" button on your post, but I fear Wrobel will nerf my magicka characters more if I do.

DKsUnite

MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »

EnOeZ wrote: »

People, don't get angry about each other.
It's the game combat and PVP development that is worsening.

Some players exploit it (Viper+velidreth stam blades..) and like it, believing they are top-skilled and Wrobel is happy.
Others are looking, hoping, asking for some talented designer to take over the combat department and launch an overhaul.

I am in the second group.

I want to press the "agree" button on your post, but I fear Wrobel will nerf my magicka characters more if I do.

let him try!! my stamina char is only one character select screen away

Alucardo

I didn't really have a problem with Viper. But when I discovered they were releasing Velidreth after it, my face kinda looked like a Koala after he discovered Bear Grylls wipes his butt with eucalyptus leaves

CapuchinSeven

EnOeZ wrote: »

People, don't get angry about each other.
It's the game combat and PVP development that is worsening.

Some players exploit it (Viper+velidreth stam blades..) and like it, believing they are top-skilled and Wrobel is happy.
Others are looking, hoping, asking for some talented designer to take over the combat department and launch an overhaul.

I am in the second group.

Yeah, I think that's how I see it so you're not alone.
I've run lol mode stamina, I really have, it's impossible to play it and not see how insane it is.

mtwiggz

The proc rate on Veli needs to be looked at, or the damage toned down. Instead next patch they actually lowered the cool down, ZoS logic.

Viper set is fine, but in conjunction with Veli and/or Widowmaker it makes for a very unbalanced conflict.

Black Rose is a very viable set for magicka and stamina alike. In the current meta of half-a-second TTK heavy armor is a great option. Especially heavy armor that can give you sustain to rival medium and light armor.

Not looking forward to seeing how next patch plays out in PvP. From the looks of things and playing on the PTS a bit it seems TTK is actually lowering, again. Against everything ZoS stated, the balance is getting very out of control.

Sandman929

It seems like if you don't want to be annoyed in PvP lately, you either build to have your armor proc insane damage for you (skill-less) or you build to be unkillable (or at least not easily killable).
I've been on my magplar the last few days. 5h, 1 light 1 medium, Kags, Malubeth and Vicious Death...and many a Radiant Oppression. You wanna proc damage? Ok.

Own

So your for endless dodging or against it?

Mr_Nobody

Every broken stamina set user on PC NA is suffering hard. They experience them hard, so hard... The Lazor Beams of mine... oo yea.

Better nerf radiant destruction. But only when these sets go out of the way, only then. Until... yea.

DHale

I have reached the conclusion that forum warriors are ruining this game. Not Devs.

outsideworld76

Lag has increased again and it is now always present in pve. Half a second at least before an animation starts after pressing a button. Before the patch is was bad now it is totally sh!t. Well done Zenimax, you keep breaking records in how to make mess of this game. #unsubscribe

Qbiken

Dread_Knight_N7 wrote: »

See, I think the problem is actually in the other direction. I think ZoS is leaving these cheese sets in because the only quick bursts DPS need to combat the unkillable builds.

I was fighting as a cancerous Templar (Blazing shield build with Malubeth, Black Rose, Fasalle's) and I went against an EP tower buster squad that consisted of 3 dragonknights and a similar templar as myself using guard with each other. Let me tell you, that was 20 straight minutes of futility going on between all of us. Its stupid these types of builds exist in the first place but I really dont see a solution without scrapping it and starting over. I doubt ZoS will do that

The problem isn´t the pvp in that case. You just don´t like other people builds...

CapuchinSeven

outsideworld76 wrote: »

Lag has increased again and it is now always present in pve. Half a second at least before an animation starts after pressing a button. Before the patch is was bad now it is totally sh!t. Well done Zenimax, you keep breaking records in how to make mess of this game. #unsubscribe

The lag does seem really bad this last week, even on Azura which never lags that much for me. Seems fine and then bam lag spikes, I've never sent or received more "wtf dude you're lagging bad" enemy tells more than I have this week.

FearlessOne_2014

DHale wrote: »

I have reached the conclusion that forum warriors are ruining this game. Not Devs.

No actually it'll be more like, Upper Management or the Marketing Department that's ruining the game. Devs are only being told what to do to maximize profit, at the expense of the consumer's fun.

CamBam370

Game is dieing fast

Isellskooma

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

......Medium armor builds useless ? Black rose OP ? What game are you playing ?

Lmfao back when nobody knew how op these sets were.