Nightblades fear

Drdeath20

Every other fear comes at a price. For instance you either must become undead, only works on undead/daedra, use an ultimate or have an ally synergies an ability. For nightblades this is sadly not the case.

I'm not advocating we remove their class ability but can there at least be a price that comes with using the most op skill in the game.

susmitds

There are many skills which do something better than all other similar skills. Besides it is the Nightblade class CC.
So what's your point again?

Drdeath20

If I want access to a fear I must either become ww or vamp and deal with having the weaknesses that come with it.
I could slot the fighters guild fear but that only works on the undead.
I could use trapping webs but that relys on an ally to activate a synergy.

My point is that as it stands now fear is a very strong ability and every class, other than a NB, that wants to use it must pay a price or deal with its selective use. So how come nightblades can slot this ability without paying a price?

There is no counter to fear it goes through block and cannot be dodged. If i try investing 100 CP's into ironclad i recieve ~1 second relief from fear.

Master_Kas

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every other fear comes at a price. For instance you either must become undead, only works on undead/daedra, use an ultimate or have an ally synergies an ability. For nightblades this is sadly not the case.

I'm not advocating we remove their class ability but can there at least be a price that comes with using the most op skill in the game.

There is a special place in hell reserved for people like you. Fear has been here since release and it should stay as it is.

Or perhaps, remove bolt escape, dragon fire scale, breath of life? I mean other classes don't have access to that either Good logic.

Aenlir

I want wings on my NB, fear on my sorc, breath of life on my DK, and bolt escape on my Templar.

Every class has strengths and weaknesses. By calling for nerfs to strong but not op skills, you risk putting another spec in the same place as mDK.

Drdeath20

Lol

Hibbou

hum... the teleport from sorcs, almost every attacks from templars (and to think that in other games, the assasins are the professional stunner), petrify, stonefist for DK, let's not forget the weapon CCs, and ultimate...

and the fear has a cost... magicka cost, pretty usefull considering that the ones using it are melee stamblades

ShedsHisTail

Drdeath20 wrote: »

My point is that as it stands now fear is a very strong ability and every class, other than a NB, that wants to use it must pay a price or deal with its selective use. So how come nightblades can slot this ability without paying a price?

Be glad you can get access to it at all.
Lots of classes have abilities I'd love to have on my Nightblade but there's no way for me to access it. The fact that it's an important tool for Nightblade which isn't even unique to their class is kind of a bummer.

Drdeath20

Stun is not the problem. The animation for Stun is pretty flawless. Stun is single target and stun can be blocked/ dodged. Fear has a 1 second delay from break, effects multiple targets, is unblockable and undodgeable.

Drdeath20

I'm not calling for a nerf to the skill. I'm asking for there to be a consequence for slotting it or using. If it's not gonna require a synergy or undead then the nightblade who cast fear should also be feared. Return the skill to a utility skill instead of it being an attacking skill. Fear is the I win button in duels.

RadioheadSh0t

Drdeath20 wrote: »

I'm not calling for a nerf to the skill. I'm asking for there to be a consequence for slotting it or using. If it's not gonna require a synergy or undead then the nightblade who cast fear should also be feared. Return the skill to a utility skill instead of it being an attacking skill. Fear is the I win button in duels.

Only against bad players. I take it your a mag build with low Stam and Regen. Consider using immovable pots.

Fear is fine as it is, other than some bugs associated with it. It's breakable just like frags, fossilize, javelin, etc.

There are a ton of things in this game more in need of a Nerf than Fear (I'm looking at you Radiant Spammers).

DisgracefulMind

NERF EVERYTHING

Let us just light and heavy attack each other!!!

stealthyevil

This is the most *** post I have ever read.

Edit : Normally I am a nice person but I had to double check this to make sure I was reading the absurdness correctly. Remember kids, drugs are bad for you mmmmmkayyyy ?

Samuel_Bantien

If Nightblade fear gets nerfed how will people fear Nightblades?

loki547

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

NERF EVERYTHING

Let us just light and heavy attack each other!!!

Pew pew pew!

Drdeath20

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

I'm not calling for a nerf to the skill. I'm asking for there to be a consequence for slotting it or using. If it's not gonna require a synergy or undead then the nightblade who cast fear should also be feared. Return the skill to a utility skill instead of it being an attacking skill. Fear is the I win button in duels.

Only against bad players. I take it your a mag build with low Stam and Regen. Consider using immovable pots.

Fear is fine as it is, other than some bugs associated with it. It's breakable just like frags, fossilize, javelin, etc.

There are a ton of things in this game more in need of a Nerf than Fear (I'm looking at you Radiant Spammers).

You guys have the strongest fear in the game in mass hysteria. I would trade radiant for that.

Radiant is only usefull for a magplar when the somebody else gets the opponent to low health. Stamplars have no use for it in either morphs. Also the magplar has to get somebody to low health. Soo yeah radiant is best zerg skill in game but in a fair fight it's useless.

RadioheadSh0t

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

NERF EVERYTHING

Let us just light and heavy attack each other!!!

juhasman

Fear is not a problem, cc breaking fear is.

Chori

I get it I get it.... you got feared by nightblade in game...

Drdeath20

Chori wrote: »

I get it I get it.... you got feared by nightblade in game...

No I want to use fear with my stamplar . I can't unless I become undead or use fighters guild fear on undead or have an ally synergies my trapping webs.

Nafirian

People who cry about fear i thought you either quit or L2P sadly not.

Drdeath20

Nafirian wrote: »

People who cry about fear i thought you either quit or L2P sadly not.

Yeah people still cry about radiant too. They really need to l2p too.

Chori

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Chori wrote: »

I get it I get it.... you got feared by nightblade in game...

No I want to use fear with my stamplar . I can't unless I become undead or use fighters guild fear on undead or have an ally synergies my trapping webs.

Oh hey I want to use major mending on my nightblade like a stamplar too, why cant I? I cant unless I wear a resto staff and do a heavy attack

RadioheadSh0t

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Nafirian wrote: »

People who cry about fear i thought you either quit or L2P sadly not.

Yeah people still cry about radiant too. They really need to l2p too.

LOL a Templar complaining about Fear complaining about people complaining about Radiant...

Now I've seen it all...

RadioheadSh0t

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Chori wrote: »

I get it I get it.... you got feared by nightblade in game...

No I want to use fear with my stamplar . I can't unless I become undead or use fighters guild fear on undead or have an ally synergies my trapping webs.

And I want major mending on my NB... Or a self heal on my sorc... Every class can't have everything.

You do know that Trap Beast fears people who aren't undead or WW, right? And the only difference between fear and most other CCs is that it goes through block.

Drdeath20

Chori wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Chori wrote: »

I get it I get it.... you got feared by nightblade in game...

No I want to use fear with my stamplar . I can't unless I become undead or use fighters guild fear on undead or have an ally synergies my trapping webs.

Oh hey I want to use major mending on my nightblade like a stamplar too, why cant I? I cant unless I wear a resto staff and do a heavy attack

major mending doesnt help a stamplar

Drdeath20

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Chori wrote: »

I get it I get it.... you got feared by nightblade in game...

No I want to use fear with my stamplar . I can't unless I become undead or use fighters guild fear on undead or have an ally synergies my trapping webs.

And I want major mending on my NB... Or a self heal on my sorc... Every class can't have everything.

You do know that Trap Beast fears people who aren't undead or WW, right? And the only difference between fear and most other CCs is that it goes through block.

Major mending doesnt help Stamplars and trap beast does not fear people. It roots 1 person if they walk into the trap.

RadioheadSh0t

Major Mending doesn't help Stamplars?

Yet every good Stamplar in the game is using that buff...

I think you should spend some time theory crafting your build.

Drdeath20

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Major Mending doesn't help Stamplars?

Yet every good Stamplar in the game is using that buff...

I think you should spend some time theory crafting your build.

The passive Sacred ground ,Major mending, only occurs when you stand in your rune or your cleansing ritual. That means before I can use rally I have to cast another ability and we all know that if you don't use rally instantly it almost always means death.

The mending passive only works with restoring light skills. Stamplars put skill points in stamina and my champion points in stamina based passives. Breath of life heals are puny for stamplar.

If we get into a duel and are able to keep the fight in our cleansing ritual than our rally is pretty strong but that's a big if.

TooskSG

Came in thinking that this was a necro'd thread from 2015, wasn't, sadly disappointed. Carry on

Drdeath20

You guys really don't think that mass hysteria instantly fearing up to 3 people for 4 seconds and them snaring them and reducing their damage by 15% for another 4 seconds is too much?

My entire point is every other fear has conditions attached to it.

Werewolf requires you to be undead and be vulnerable to poison. Also you have to feed.
Vampire requires you to be undead and be vulnerable fire.
Sacred ground only fears undead and daedra.
Trapping webs requires a synergy.

I just think they need to adjust nightblades fear morphs. 1 morph works just like mass hysteria but only on 1 target. The other morph works on multiple targets but also fears the caster.