PTS Patch Notes v2.5.0

Alpheu5

Shadowfen
The Skin-Stealer's Lair: Fixed an issue that caused Ukatsei to despawn as you approached him.
The Trial of the Ghost Snake: Clarified that the rodents you need to search for are of an unusual size.

Pretty sure that Trial of the Ghost Snake takes place in Deshaan.

itscompton

Miszou wrote: »

Oompuh wrote: »

Love the Khajiit and Argoninan change
Great Work!

I'm guessing you have (or will have) an Argonian Healer. Because no-one in their right mind will want Agonians for anything else now.

At least before, there was some utility in boosting healing received (for both DPS and Tanks), but what use is healing done for anything other than a healer?

There's no diversity here at all. Absolutely none.

Argonian Templar magica tanks and DD's will still benefit from the extra healing when spamming sweeps.

FlyLeaf30

don't kill the messenger guys. Yeah I was expecting some new zone along with this but I'm overall happy with it. I'm happy that construction is in play for housing though One question, will we be able to see the difference of the construction? Oh and when can we expect to test out this new content, today or are the servers coming up tomorrow sometime? Oh and character copies, will they be on PTS this time? Please say yes.

HoolDog

Semner wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Dragonstar Arena Improvements
Test your strength against the denizens of the Dragonstar Arena!

• Monsters have had their difficulty increased as well as their rewards.
• Items and Weapon Sets obtained in the Arena have been updated to scale up to max level, which is Champion 160.
• Four older item sets have been updated and drop in Dragonstar Arena at Champion 160. They are:
  • Archer's Mind
  • Destruction Master
  • Footman
  • Healer

I would assume that "Items and Weapon Sets obtained in the Arena have been updated to scale up to max level, which is Champion 160" means that Master weapons will scale, yes.

I thought this but master weapons are a big deal... Allowing groups to farm good weapons. Which is ideal for players that hate solo content like maelstroms weapons. So I thought they would be specifically mentioned.

Elsonso

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Any API update in 2.5.0?

Ilsabet

Talyena wrote: »

I see a problem with a few of the new passives intended to replace the skill passives. You replaced some that gave you experience in a skill line to ones that give you experience overall (High Elf) or in crafting skill lines (Orc). Eventually you will hit the cap and those will be as useless as the old ones.

The skill line boost passives aren't being replaced. The new passives are being added on top of the existing skill passives.

Your point about certain passives being useless after a certain point is valid, though.

JarlUlfric

Bfish22090 wrote: »

no changes to skills?
this was supposed to be a magicka update...

Nowhere did they say that. Thieves Guild was your Magicka Update.

jknight201

Essiaga wrote: »

I also thinks racial passives would be better if the were simply toned down. 10% increases are a bit extreme. We shouldn't HAVE to pick a race based on it's passives. We should pick them because they appeal to our personality or our characters personality. 1/2/3% or 2/3/4% or even 2/4/6% wouldn't be so bad.

No one should say "I got out DPSed because I'm an Argonian" or "You stink at tanking because he's an Argonian." or "Your heals stink cause your not an Argonian."

But ZOS has been moving more towards segregated stam / magicka rather then 'play your way' for a long time. I miss hybrid builds. I kinda wish for ever point you put in stamina or magicka you got 50% (or so) of the other trait as well.

Agree. "Play your way" really means "You can play your way but you won't be competitive unless you play our way". What happened to the "cosmetic" or "fun" aspects of racial passives? 9% extra healing done is neither cosmetic nor fun, it's just imbalanced.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

lordrichter wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Any API update in 2.5.0?

Yep, working on formatting those notes now. They'll be up shortly.

Abeille

Essiaga wrote: »

I also thinks racial passives would be better if the were simply toned down. 10% increases are a bit extreme. We shouldn't HAVE to pick a race based on it's passives. We should pick them because they appeal to our personality or our characters personality. 1/2/3% or 2/3/4% or even 2/4/6% wouldn't be so bad.

No one should say "I got out DPSed because I'm an Argonian" or "You stink at tanking because he's an Argonian." or "Your heals stink cause your not an Argonian."

But ZOS has been moving more towards segregated stam / magicka rather then 'play your way' for a long time. I miss hybrid builds. I kinda wish for ever point you put in stamina or magicka you got 50% (or so) of the other trait as well.

I agree. Not a fan of pidgeonholing races into roles, at all.

I still prefer the way it was before, with the soft caps.

Mike_IG

Van_0S wrote: »

Clerics1985 wrote: »

Please just get rid of the Dunmer, you've killed any reason to EVER use him. Frost and shock damage from a Dunmer? wtf is that logic?

You mis-understood fire damage will be the same but in addition frost and shock damage will be added.
But the resistance to fire damage is gone.So, its bad for vampire dunmer.

Is fire resistance not on another passive not listed here in the patch notes so they will still have the resistance or am I missing something?.

SirCritical

Hm, on 2nd thought, the new "fun" and "roleplay" non-combat effects of Khajiit (+5% to pickpocket) and Bosmer (-10% fall damage) should be switched.

HuawaSepp

Looked forward to play my magicka char as an orc

altemriel

new motifs??

Semner

Mike_IG wrote: »

Van_0S wrote: »

Clerics1985 wrote: »

Please just get rid of the Dunmer, you've killed any reason to EVER use him. Frost and shock damage from a Dunmer? wtf is that logic?

You mis-understood fire damage will be the same but in addition frost and shock damage will be added.
But the resistance to fire damage is gone.So, its bad for vampire dunmer.

Is fire resistance not on another passive not listed here in the patch notes so they will still have the resistance or am I missing something?.

They still have resistance. There was no mention of changes to the "Resist Flame" Dark Elf passive in the notes.

olsborg

Dracane wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

[*]Necropotence: This item set’s Max Magicka bonus has been changed to a flat value instead of a percentage.

Oh I knew it. How was I naive to believe, that ZoS would just buff something for a change instead of buffing and nerfing at the same time.

Now I wish it would just stay V12 instead. What's the point when the V16 version is much worse than as the V12 version is right now.

This, shame they make every cool set less cool with every update they try to "reintroduce" them ...lol

Slakk

We're all so edgy today, yo.
2 new dungeons and some life breathed back into all those old trials, and we're still just going rabble rabble.
I'll just be the minority and say that I'm gonna be running the newly loved content like crazy.

Gonna be hitting up that new AA, someone will crash mid-run every time and then we'll wait 5-10 for everyone to get back or reset and then i'll be forced to eat my words...
We really need more good PvE content drops that get everyone running trials again.
That's the lifeblood of guild growth.

SpAEkus

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Probably just a missed "no" on the second item here?

Visual Effects

• Mubcrabs pets now appropriately leave behind clawprints
• It is longer possible to interrupt the Minotaur Shaman’s Pillars of Nirn visual effect

Warraxx

still no Cadwell Mount!

Docmandu

LOVE the section about the Performance fixes for Cyrodiil !!!!

Oh wait... nvm...

Giraffon

" - Bards may no longer be killed."

Okay, this is clearly the worst news in this entire update. I think it should read:

"Bards can now be chased away (not killed) from their current location by attacking them. If your bullying is witnessed you will get a bounty placed on you, otherwise enjoy your newfound peace and quiet."

Think of them like practice dummies. We can hit them as much as we need to in order to feel better. I could see myself chasing bards all over the many towns of Tamerial. There should be an achievement: Music Critic

At the very least, wouldn't it be fun to pickpocket their instrument? Imagine the bard playing along and then all of the sudden a confused "huh?" as he looks around for his missing instrument.

I really think we are missing a huge opportunity to abuse bards!

Vaoh

So basically:

1) Make race change cost crowns.

2) Change races so in order to min/max you must now choose a specific race.

Why would you do this? $$$ <----

GreenTea

ZoS, why do you hate Khajiit Magicka Nightblades?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

SpAEkus wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Probably just a missed "no" on the second item here?

Visual Effects

• Mubcrabs pets now appropriately leave behind clawprints
• It is longer possible to interrupt the Minotaur Shaman’s Pillars of Nirn visual effect

Yep, fixing. Thank you!

Recremen

Wow, lots of neat additions this update, but I've gotta call out an issue with one of the racial passives! It is absolutely criminal to let Bretons earn more Alliance Points than others as a racial passive! Even 1% is completely out of line!

Shadesofkin

I'm thoroughly pleased by the changes to the racials. Right on.

Cuyler

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Did BOP in group trading make it into this patch? I don't see it in the notes?

jbcrocks

I'm not asking for more...we're just asking for DK dragon blood to be useful in pvp PLEASE. I've been waiting for ages..

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel

Cuyler

Recremen wrote: »

Wow, lots of neat additions this update, but I've gotta call out an issue with one of the racial passives! It is absolutely criminal to let Bretons earn more Alliance Points than others as a racial passive! Even 1% is completely out of line!

I agree, any AP% gain modifiers seem quite unfair when the total # of AP is used to rank the PvP leaderboards.

Komma

*Argonian Skills
Amphibious: This passive ability has been renamed to “Resourceful.” Also, it no longer increases your swimming speed by 50%. It now increases your Max Magicka by 1/2/3%, and continues to restore 4/8/12% of your Max Health, Magicka, and Stamina whenever you drink a potion.
Quick to Mend: This passive ability now increases your healing done by 3/6/9%, instead of increasing your healing received by 3/6/9%.
Restoration Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Amphibian.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your swimming speed by 50%.

+3% magicka, +9% healing done and -9% healing recieved.


*Breton Skills
Light Armor Affinity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Opportunist.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your Alliance Points gained by 1%.

+1% ap gained


*Dark Elf Skills
Ambidexterity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Ashlander.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now reduces your damage taken from lava by 50%.
Flame Talent: This passive ability has been renamed to “Destructive Ancestry.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your Frost and Shock Damage by 0/1/2%.

Reduced dmg from lava by 50% and increase frost and shock dmg by 0/1/2%.


*High Elf Skills
Destruction Talent: This passive ability has been renamed to “Highborn.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your experience gained by 1%.

+1% xp gained


*Imperial Skills
Shield Affinity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Diplomat.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your gold gained by 1%.

+1% gold gained


*Khajiit Skills
Medium Armor Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Cutpurse.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your chance to successfully pickpocket by 5%.
Robust Constitution: This passive ability has been renamed to “Nimble.” Also, it no longer increases your Health Recovery by 6/13/20%. It now increases your Max Stamina by 2/4/6% and continues to increase your Stamina Recovery by 3/6/10%.

+5% to pickpocket, -20% health recovery and +6% stamina


*Nord Skills
Two Handed Weapon Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Reveler.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases the duration of any consumed drink by 15 minutes.
Robust: This passive ability has been renamed to “Stalwart.” It now increases your Health Recovery by 6/13/20%, down from 10/20/30% and your Max Stamina by 2/4/6%.

+15 minutes to drink timer, -10% health recovery and +6% stamina.


*Orc Skills
Heavy Armor Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Craftsman.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your inspiration gains by 10%.
Robust: This passive ability has been renamed to “Unflinching.” It now increases your Health Recovery by 6/13/20%, down from 10/20/30% and your healing received by 1/3/5%.

+10% inspiration gained, -10% health recovery and +5% healing received


*Redguard Skills
Shield Affinity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Wayfarer.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases the duration of any consumed food by 15 minutes.

+15 minutes to food timer


*Wood Elf Skills
Archery Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Acrobat.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now reduces your fall damage by 10%.

-10% fall damage

Why all the crying over this? Seems a wash or very slight improvement for all races. No losers here.