Templars

bardx86

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

It's just you. Nothing to see here.

bardx86

lol

a1i3nz

Rofl

Bofrari

Nerf sorc and nb. Buff role play.

Bofrari

That is what PvP will become role playing you remember that south park ep with the chickens in it that sit across from the table from each other and have the cards "he pulls one mana card" "enemy blocks with mana block card" I mean come on people when will it end.

nine9six

So you got killed by one?

Wreuntzylla

You mean sorc templar build, right?

Van_0S

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Which templars are you saying, stamina or magicka?

If magicka then yes, jesus-beam+ VD!!!!( I did kill low health EMP with it, just saying..)
If stamina then no , only WB,snipe and a few extra can do DMG.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

Brrrofski

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

Ummm, what?

WillhelmBlack

It's just you, take a look at the other classes.

leepalmer95

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Which templars are you saying, stamina or magicka?

If magicka then yes, jesus-beam+ VD!!!!( I did kill low health EMP with it, just saying..)
If stamina then no , only WB,snipe and a few extra can do DMG.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

.... HAHAHA

Someone has no idea about stamplars xD

Also you kind of left jabs out, you know the most iconic templar skill? Their spam dps skill they always use.

aLi3nZ

Stamina Templar seems pretty awesome tbh. I've seen some really good ones in action killing several decent players at once. Magika ones are decent as well. My sourc doesn't fare that well against a good stam templar using wrecking blow/sweep ult/executioner etc. They do infact mitigate a tone of damage while hitting like a brick if built properly with a decent player. I can usually burst down players pretty good as a sourc but not them templars.

When playing my nightblade it can also be hard fighting a templar because the jabs keep bringing me out of cloak. I dodge roll and cloak and have fast movement buffs but i can't always escape them damn jabs.

danno8

I think Templars have the tools to make certain opponents have a hard time against them. I know magical Sorc and DK have a hard time since so many of their dps rotation skills can be purged and Templar have a strong purge.

Also now that Sweeps can proc heals against shielded opponents Templar have an easier time against magicka Sorc.

Stamina opponents are still the toughest for me to take on.

But really, the quality of opponent makes all the difference. And for 1 v X the Templar has nearly no mobility or repositioning skills, their defense consists of spamming BoL, or using their limited stamina pool to block/dodge/break. If you get focussed, the Templar is probably the most dead class out there.

Stamina Templar plays very similar to other stamina classes, so not much difference there.

danno8

aLi3nZ wrote: »

When playing my nightblade it can also be hard fighting a templar because the jabs keep bringing me out of cloak. I dodge roll and cloak and have fast movement buffs but i can't always escape them damn jabs.

When confronted with a NB that I need to kill, I will usually pop an immovable + detect potion. I find NB have a pretty tough time winning fights without Fear and Cloak. If they use shadow image though, they can get away, wait for 15s, and then it's a pretty tough fight.

LizardThixvim

Templar is in no way over powered or over tuned, sorc and nightblade are still the most played class i see in cyrodiil and for good reason they are powerful and easy to play

You may find good players who play templar and perfected their build to counter everything and out play people, just like you find the same players who are OP as sorc, nightblade and dragonknight its just how skilled the player is, not the class being "OP" or over tuned

failkiwib16_ESO

All classes and stamina/magicka/hybrid builds have weaknesses and strengths over their oponents.

personal skills + knowledge of game mechanics + gear + hardware and connection will determine how well you will perform against other players in pvp and pve. Add social network to that list as well.

AddictionX

Yes they buffed dark flare, and made RD undodgable at 40-ish meters execute.

failkiwib16_ESO

AddictionX wrote: »

Yes they buffed dark flare, and made RD undodgable at 40-ish meters execute.

There are counters for those skills, and they have weaknesses and limitations to when they can be used to gain advantage.

What do you expect the enemy to do, stand still and wait for you to kill them? They take advantage of the situation and use that against you, just as you should be doing the same if you want to defeat them.

AddictionX

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

AddictionX wrote: »

Yes they buffed dark flare, and made RD undodgable at 40-ish meters execute.

There are counters for those skills, and they have weaknesses and limitations to when they can be used to gain advantage.

What do you expect the enemy to do, stand still and wait for you to kill them? They take advantage of the situation and use that against you, just as you should be doing the same if you want to defeat them.

Cool, but... point still stands. OP wanted to know if Templars hit harder and they do, those where buffs to the templar... all while block cast healing might I add and double dipping into the CP tree.

But really thanks for some how taking me (personally?) some how into the context. Where did i mention I was having trouble killing one or defeating one? You're response is more of a "triggered" response because i stated something true about the templar class and immediately assumed im having trouble with the class/under some false impression of fear(?) that im going to cry out for nerf or something? Do get over yourself abit.

Van_0S

Brrrofski wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

Ummm, what?

Nothing, I know its beyond your understanding.

Van_0S

leepalmer95 wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Which templars are you saying, stamina or magicka?

If magicka then yes, jesus-beam+ VD!!!!( I did kill low health EMP with it, just saying..)
If stamina then no , only WB,snipe and a few extra can do DMG.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

.... HAHAHA

Someone has no idea about stamplars xD

Also you kind of left jabs out, you know the most iconic templar skill? Their spam dps skill they always use.

I ditch stamplar to a magiplar, I hope you know that I kill an emperor with my Jesus beam without even getting a scratch.

WillhelmBlack

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Which templars are you saying, stamina or magicka?

If magicka then yes, jesus-beam+ VD!!!!( I did kill low health EMP with it, just saying..)
If stamina then no , only WB,snipe and a few extra can do DMG.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

.... HAHAHA

Someone has no idea about stamplars xD

Also you kind of left jabs out, you know the most iconic templar skill? Their spam dps skill they always use.

I ditch stamplar to a magiplar, I hope you know that I kill an emperor with my Jesus beam without even getting a scratch.

WOW

Brrrofski

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

Ummm, what?

Nothing, I know its beyond your understanding.

I think you're the one with problems understanding things if you think stamina characters can't hit hard and have great survivability. Someone's not running shuffle I see.

leepalmer95

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

bardx86 wrote: »

Is it just me or are templars a bit over tuned. They can mitigate so much damage and still hit like a truck.

Which templars are you saying, stamina or magicka?

If magicka then yes, jesus-beam+ VD!!!!( I did kill low health EMP with it, just saying..)
If stamina then no , only WB,snipe and a few extra can do DMG.

Almost all stamina builds are under power, either through burst or survivability.

.... HAHAHA

Someone has no idea about stamplars xD

Also you kind of left jabs out, you know the most iconic templar skill? Their spam dps skill they always use.

I ditch stamplar to a magiplar, I hope you know that I kill an emperor with my Jesus beam without even getting a scratch.

Must of been hard, zerg the emp with a group of 40 while you sit at the back spamming radiant, despite the fact the emp was likely full hp.

Your one of the reasons why people are complaining about jesus beam.

Redn3ck

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Must of been hard, zerg the emp with a group of 40 while you sit at the back spamming radiant, despite the fact the emp was likely full hp.

Your one of the reasons why people are complaining about jesus beam.

Nothing wrong with Jesus beaming, learn to use LoS or run a interrupt ability on your bar...

Obliterate

All of this comes down to who is playing the class. Personally when I play on my templar I get f***ed up a majority of the time. I don't think they need nerfing I'm just really bad at the moment. (Only been playing about 1-2 months)

Durham

Redn3ck wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Must of been hard, zerg the emp with a group of 40 while you sit at the back spamming radiant, despite the fact the emp was likely full hp.

Your one of the reasons why people are complaining about jesus beam.

Nothing wrong with Jesus beaming, learn to use LoS or run a interrupt ability on your bar...

I agree except the range in way to much atm ... LOS is the way I can break 9/10 but this game has horrid lag I have had this ability still kill me through walls... this is the best execute in the game. .. I play all 4 classes...

leepalmer95

Redn3ck wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Must of been hard, zerg the emp with a group of 40 while you sit at the back spamming radiant, despite the fact the emp was likely full hp.

Your one of the reasons why people are complaining about jesus beam.

Nothing wrong with Jesus beaming, learn to use LoS or run a interrupt ability on your bar...

Sigh, i'm not even going to bother with you.

Redn3ck

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Redn3ck wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Must of been hard, zerg the emp with a group of 40 while you sit at the back spamming radiant, despite the fact the emp was likely full hp.

Your one of the reasons why people are complaining about jesus beam.

Nothing wrong with Jesus beaming, learn to use LoS or run a interrupt ability on your bar...

Sigh, i'm not even going to bother with you.

No please do, I wanna know why

leepalmer95

Redn3ck wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Redn3ck wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Must of been hard, zerg the emp with a group of 40 while you sit at the back spamming radiant, despite the fact the emp was likely full hp.

Your one of the reasons why people are complaining about jesus beam.

Nothing wrong with Jesus beaming, learn to use LoS or run a interrupt ability on your bar...

Sigh, i'm not even going to bother with you.

No please do, I wanna know why

Jesus beam goes through doors etc.. sometimes for a start.

Why does an execute start at 50% hp, every other ranged execute starts at 25%.

If a templar uses jesus beam on your when your around 40/45% hp the first tick will drop you to 30% the next tick will kill you.

Now considering the time between ticks is 1s how exactly are you mean't to react in time, from the templar hitting you with the beam your mean't to hope you have a interrupt skill on, hope your on that bar, hope your not cc, hope your actually in range, thats if your even a ranged build.

If your not you need to target the templars, gap close (hope it works) then bash. Theres no chance. Your dead.

Now if 1v1 it's not too hard to keep your hp above 50%, however as soon as it's Xv1, XvX the beam becomes stupidly powerful.

A templar can cast it at someone with 80% hp, then one of their teammates hits them with a wb or something or cc's them and there dead, there no chance because it will drop them into it's range and they'll die before they stand up.

Even a simple Ult + jesus beam will kill people.

Theres no reason why jesus beam scales at 50%, it's got a stupidly high range on it as well why doesn't it scale at 25% like every other ranged execute in the game, if it did then templars would actually use it as an execute and not a death sentence.

So tell me why theres isn't anything wrong with it?, why is it equal to other executes?, why should it scale at 50%?