nordsavage wrote: »I am going to say this much. If you see the meteor ring on you it is your responsibility to move away from the group, If it is on someone near you it is your responsibility to remove your self from the impact zone.
#duckandcover #stopdropandroll
nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Uh no. Did you even read ? I did not say for you to learn to play I said I have dealt with people who said learn to play as there counter argument. As for you. You said that 1 function of a ultimate that barely any one uses in PvP makes my entire argument invalid which it doesn't. Sorcerers tend to only use over load light attack cause of the range and it's spamable and guess what it is reflectable and as I said over load isn't the only ultimate with a counter or a negative such as dragons leap or death stroke whihc can be dodge rolled or side stepped to avoid.
Now tell me how does over load heavy attack which can be easily dodged by takeing a few step back make my entire argument that Meteor was already on par with ever single other ultimate in the game cause all other ultimates had draw backs or counters ?
You are just one of the pro-meteor players who want it to stay OP cause you and all the other pro-meteor want that "I win" button in PvP. Well I am calling it after a week or 2 on live every one is gonna be screaming for Meteors nerf. Meteor was already on par with the other ultimates but no players are just gonna scream till they have there I win button.
nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Uh no. Did you even read ? I did not say for you to learn to play I said I have dealt with people who said learn to play as there counter argument. As for you. You said that 1 function of a ultimate that barely any one uses in PvP makes my entire argument invalid which it doesn't. Sorcerers tend to only use over load light attack cause of the range and it's spamable and guess what it is reflectable and as I said over load isn't the only ultimate with a counter or a negative such as dragons leap or death stroke whihc can be dodge rolled or side stepped to avoid.
Now tell me how does over load heavy attack which can be easily dodged by takeing a few step back make my entire argument that Meteor was already on par with ever single other ultimate in the game cause all other ultimates had draw backs or counters ?
You are just one of the pro-meteor players who want it to stay OP cause you and all the other pro-meteor want that "I win" button in PvP. Well I am calling it after a week or 2 on live every one is gonna be screaming for Meteors nerf. Meteor was already on par with the other ultimates but no players are just gonna scream till they have there I win button.
Having a heavy attack still makes the ultimate non-reflectable for both morphs and the unmorphed version you have yet to disprove that. Cancelation, function and damage are a separate argument. Since you are telling me what I am I will tell you what you are. You are just some forum jockey who cannot stand to be wrong or not have the last word who deflects and avoids the question.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Uh no. Did you even read ? I did not say for you to learn to play I said I have dealt with people who said learn to play as there counter argument. As for you. You said that 1 function of a ultimate that barely any one uses in PvP makes my entire argument invalid which it doesn't. Sorcerers tend to only use over load light attack cause of the range and it's spamable and guess what it is reflectable and as I said over load isn't the only ultimate with a counter or a negative such as dragons leap or death stroke whihc can be dodge rolled or side stepped to avoid.
Now tell me how does over load heavy attack which can be easily dodged by takeing a few step back make my entire argument that Meteor was already on par with ever single other ultimate in the game cause all other ultimates had draw backs or counters ?
You are just one of the pro-meteor players who want it to stay OP cause you and all the other pro-meteor want that "I win" button in PvP. Well I am calling it after a week or 2 on live every one is gonna be screaming for Meteors nerf. Meteor was already on par with the other ultimates but no players are just gonna scream till they have there I win button.
Having a heavy attack still makes the ultimate non-reflectable for both morphs and the unmorphed version you have yet to disprove that. Cancelation, function and damage are a separate argument. Since you are telling me what I am I will tell you what you are. You are just some forum jockey who cannot stand to be wrong or not have the last word who deflects and avoids the question.
OK ? What am I avoiding ? You are telling me that my statement is invalid just cause of one mechanic that barely any one uses in PvP. You are saying that all other ultimates in the game are fine just cause of over load heavy attacks. You are dodging what I am asking.
How does over load heavy attacks make all other ultimates in the game on par with the new Meteor and that they don't need change to beon par with the new Meteor ? You can still dodge leap and stroke step out of standers and nova AOEs and break the soul assault channel and easily beat the sorcs atronachs and break out of their negate too and so on and of course you can still reflect over loads light attacks which is what a sorcerer tends to use the most in PvP.
I am asking the question you are the one dodging it.
Now tell me since you apparently have all the answers.
How does over loads heavy attack make every single other ultimate in the game as powerful as the new Meteor when they still have their negatives ?
nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Uh no. Did you even read ? I did not say for you to learn to play I said I have dealt with people who said learn to play as there counter argument. As for you. You said that 1 function of a ultimate that barely any one uses in PvP makes my entire argument invalid which it doesn't. Sorcerers tend to only use over load light attack cause of the range and it's spamable and guess what it is reflectable and as I said over load isn't the only ultimate with a counter or a negative such as dragons leap or death stroke whihc can be dodge rolled or side stepped to avoid.
Now tell me how does over load heavy attack which can be easily dodged by takeing a few step back make my entire argument that Meteor was already on par with ever single other ultimate in the game cause all other ultimates had draw backs or counters ?
You are just one of the pro-meteor players who want it to stay OP cause you and all the other pro-meteor want that "I win" button in PvP. Well I am calling it after a week or 2 on live every one is gonna be screaming for Meteors nerf. Meteor was already on par with the other ultimates but no players are just gonna scream till they have there I win button.
Having a heavy attack still makes the ultimate non-reflectable for both morphs and the unmorphed version you have yet to disprove that. Cancelation, function and damage are a separate argument. Since you are telling me what I am I will tell you what you are. You are just some forum jockey who cannot stand to be wrong or not have the last word who deflects and avoids the question.
OK ? What am I avoiding ? You are telling me that my statement is invalid just cause of one mechanic that barely any one uses in PvP. You are saying that all other ultimates in the game are fine just cause of over load heavy attacks. You are dodging what I am asking.
How does over load heavy attacks make all other ultimates in the game on par with the new Meteor and that they don't need change to beon par with the new Meteor ? You can still dodge leap and stroke step out of standers and nova AOEs and break the soul assault channel and easily beat the sorcs atronachs and break out of their negate too and so on and of course you can still reflect over loads light attacks which is what a sorcerer tends to use the most in PvP.
I am asking the question you are the one dodging it.
Now tell me since you apparently have all the answers.
How does over loads heavy attack make every single other ultimate in the game as powerful as the new Meteor when they still have their negatives ?
Where did I say anything about power or function of any other ultimates? You are dragging my point wide with things I never said. What I am talking about is that meteor is the ONLY Ultimate that can be REFLECTED with no ifs, ands or buts. Whether the heavy attack for overload is used is again BESIDE the point. Negating, dodging or mitigating is ANOTHER topic. What YOU are AVOIDING is telling me how overload is NOT reflectable given that HEAVY attack is channeled. Stay on track nephew.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Uh no. Did you even read ? I did not say for you to learn to play I said I have dealt with people who said learn to play as there counter argument. As for you. You said that 1 function of a ultimate that barely any one uses in PvP makes my entire argument invalid which it doesn't. Sorcerers tend to only use over load light attack cause of the range and it's spamable and guess what it is reflectable and as I said over load isn't the only ultimate with a counter or a negative such as dragons leap or death stroke whihc can be dodge rolled or side stepped to avoid.
Now tell me how does over load heavy attack which can be easily dodged by takeing a few step back make my entire argument that Meteor was already on par with ever single other ultimate in the game cause all other ultimates had draw backs or counters ?
You are just one of the pro-meteor players who want it to stay OP cause you and all the other pro-meteor want that "I win" button in PvP. Well I am calling it after a week or 2 on live every one is gonna be screaming for Meteors nerf. Meteor was already on par with the other ultimates but no players are just gonna scream till they have there I win button.
Having a heavy attack still makes the ultimate non-reflectable for both morphs and the unmorphed version you have yet to disprove that. Cancelation, function and damage are a separate argument. Since you are telling me what I am I will tell you what you are. You are just some forum jockey who cannot stand to be wrong or not have the last word who deflects and avoids the question.
OK ? What am I avoiding ? You are telling me that my statement is invalid just cause of one mechanic that barely any one uses in PvP. You are saying that all other ultimates in the game are fine just cause of over load heavy attacks. You are dodging what I am asking.
How does over load heavy attacks make all other ultimates in the game on par with the new Meteor and that they don't need change to beon par with the new Meteor ? You can still dodge leap and stroke step out of standers and nova AOEs and break the soul assault channel and easily beat the sorcs atronachs and break out of their negate too and so on and of course you can still reflect over loads light attacks which is what a sorcerer tends to use the most in PvP.
I am asking the question you are the one dodging it.
Now tell me since you apparently have all the answers.
How does over loads heavy attack make every single other ultimate in the game as powerful as the new Meteor when they still have their negatives ?
Where did I say anything about power or function of any other ultimates? You are dragging my point wide with things I never said. What I am talking about is that meteor is the ONLY Ultimate that can be REFLECTED with no ifs, ands or buts. Whether the heavy attack for overload is used is again BESIDE the point. Negating, dodging or mitigating is ANOTHER topic. What YOU are AVOIDING is telling me how overload is NOT reflectable given that HEAVY attack is channeled. Stay on track nephew.
And I am telling you that no one uses the heavy attack because the range is weak and the attack its self is slow and a sorcerer can't use skills while using unlike meteor and I am telling you again Meteor was already on par being reflectable because all other ultimates include over load had counters and or negatives that players had to deal with. Now that Meteor is non-reflectable it has little to 0 negatives and will again become the go to ulitmate I win button in PvP and as I suggested in my opinion which you apparently find wrong that either Meteor become reflectable again or all other ulitmates in the game get changed to be on par like the new meteor having little 0 counters or negatives such as over load becoming non-refleactable but not it's heavy attack since apparently it's already on par with the new Meteor.
That is the simplest I can put it the new meteor as little to no negatives and or counters and either it needs to be reflectable again or as other suggested it becomes a ground base AOE like standers or nova or the other ultimates in the game get buffed and or changed to have little or no negatives and or counters like the new meteor.
Now please actually have a valid counter argument that actually makes sense and not just a rage post about why the new meteor should stay and the other ultimates shouldn't get buffed and or changed to be on par with the new meteor and please do not even say over load heavy attacks cause in case you haven't notice not ever one is a sorcerer, not ever sorcerer uses over load, and those who do don't tend to only use the heavy attacks.
Millerman34n wrote: »
Master_Kas wrote: »Get alot of those recaps lately. Some days ago at bleakers we walked right into legio who dropped 15+ meteors at once. Half our group wiped to Falldmg on the stairs. Guess they are preparing for the new patch
Wasn't this fixed on the PTS?
Edit: another issue are the double novas bug ppl seem to spam aswell.
Master_Kas wrote: »Get alot of those recaps lately. Some days ago at bleakers we walked right into legio who dropped 15+ meteors at once. Half our group wiped to Falldmg on the stairs. Guess they are preparing for the new patch
Wasn't this fixed on the PTS?
Edit: another issue are the double novas bug ppl seem to spam aswell.
nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »nordsavage wrote: »None of the other ults are reflectable so meteor should not be either and I will say the same thing I said about prox det. "You all wanted zerg busters but then you want to complain when the zerg gets busted.
The sorcerer ultimate Over Load is reflectable you can dodge roll or side step out of a Dragon Knights dragon leap or Night Blades death stroke you can break the channel of a soul assault by taking on step back and you can easily step out of a standers or nova AOE.
Hmm looks like most to nearly all other ultimates have counters including with being reflectable. So tell me why should Meteor be so damn special and become the new I win ultimate that is clearly gonna cause major problems in PvP ? Why should it now be the only ultimate with out a counter ? What is it cause some players want easy mdoe is that it?
Here's the 2 options I see either your precious Meteor get reflectable again or ever other ultimate in the game gets divine like buffs example being DKs dragon leap and NB death stroke act like a gap closer and roots some one before impact seems fair right ?
Sorc heavy is not reflectable argument nullified.
That was by far the least intellectual counter argument I have ever heard and I dealt with people counter arguments being "L2P".
You tell me how it is not the truth. You have nothing so you try to go for a low blow with L2P.
Cyantific87 wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Get alot of those recaps lately. Some days ago at bleakers we walked right into legio who dropped 15+ meteors at once. Half our group wiped to Falldmg on the stairs. Guess they are preparing for the new patch
Wasn't this fixed on the PTS?
Edit: another issue are the double novas bug ppl seem to spam aswell.
*yawn*