Shield Breaker Set.....Thoughts

Alucardo

Ipomoea wrote: »

Yeah its bloods pawn. Thanks for all of the comments, it's really appreciated. I know I'm gonna get murdered for quite some time (not just by sorcs), but that's a good thing.

Wish everyone had that attitude. Good luck to you!

olsborg

Either make SB only procc from melee weapons, or give the entire set a 2 second cooldown on procc. If 3 people are completely lame and spam light attack on anyone using a ward/shield, it gets to the point where you gotta just laugh..its too silly.

GreenSoup2HoT

Alucardo wrote: »

coolermh wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Anyway, as far as Shield Breaker goes - use it, especially after TG drop. You thought sorcs are tanky now? Just wait until they are hitting you harder with these new sets and taking 25% less physical damage from you. Until something is done about shields, I'll use anything at my disposal (as long as it's not buggy).
While SB wasn't the best solution to the shield problem, it's all we have, so don't feel bad about using it.

The new SB passive works with sheild breaker so if you put 100 pts in it sb set golded that did 2100 dmg per light attack now dowes ~2625ish per hit

lol 2625 unresistable damage per hit. That'll teach 'em for using shields

Are you serious that's awesome

Next patch will be interesting indeed.

olsborg

coolermh wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Anyway, as far as Shield Breaker goes - use it, especially after TG drop. You thought sorcs are tanky now? Just wait until they are hitting you harder with these new sets and taking 25% less physical damage from you. Until something is done about shields, I'll use anything at my disposal (as long as it's not buggy).
While SB wasn't the best solution to the shield problem, it's all we have, so don't feel bad about using it.

The new SB passive works with sheild breaker so if you put 100 pts in it sb set golded that did 2100 dmg per light attack now dowes ~2625ish per hit

What? Please elaborate about this..

smacx250

With TG there is a CP star that gives an increase in damage to shielded players. Not sure about the max with 100 points - the post implies it is +25% damage. This applies to all damage, not just SB. It has been reported that even increases the physical damage that bypasses the shield of a player using annulment.

rfennell_ESO

Shield Breaker is an excellent all around set.

If you like sorcerers and magblades and magplars and dks that try and shield and heal sending you whispers calling you all sorts of names, it's the set for you.

There is a lot of debate over how useful it is... fact is that used tactically (and not a spamming thing) it is very effective.

I keep reading things like it's a noob set, it's not as good as a pure dps set and all that... But, I get the most rage filled whispers I've ever seen when you use this set on someone for a kill. I use that to gauge it's effectiveness.

Beastnas

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I keep reading things like it's a noob set, it's not as good as a pure dps set and all that... But, I get the most rage filled whispers I've ever seen when you use this set on someone for a kill. I use that to gauge it's effectiveness.

So true. I swap to this set on my stamblade maybe around 20% of my time in PvP...I've received dozens of the most vile whispers you could imagine (every single one of them from a sorc).

MrGigglypants

kingqueso950 wrote: »

Rather than using SB i would recommend using dual maces or using swords with the armor pen trait. works well for me

armour pen does nothing against sorcs this is just bad info. Go Sword and board with reflect if you want to counter a sorc without shield breaker.

Beastnas wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I keep reading things like it's a noob set, it's not as good as a pure dps set and all that... But, I get the most rage filled whispers I've ever seen when you use this set on someone for a kill. I use that to gauge it's effectiveness.

So true. I swap to this set on my stamblade maybe around 20% of my time in PvP...I've received dozens of the most vile whispers you could imagine (every single one of them from a sorc).

Next dlc you can mix it with the guille set and then we can get whispers from everybody because who needs damage when the other person has no defense you heard it here first.

Master_Kas

Alucardo wrote: »

Anyway, as far as Shield Breaker goes - use it, especially after TG drop. You thought sorcs are tanky now? Just wait until they are hitting you harder with these new sets and taking 25% less physical damage from you. Until something is done about shields, I'll use anything at my disposal (as long as it's not buggy).
While SB wasn't the best solution to the shield problem, it's all we have, so don't feel bad about using it.

The shieldbreaker set I got when IC launched will come handy next patch for sure And with magelight now being a hardcounter to cloak + empower buff.. Well I won't feel bad about using it at all

olsborg wrote: »

Either make SB only procc from melee weapons, or give the entire set a 2 second cooldown on procc. If 3 people are completely lame and spam light attack on anyone using a ward/shield, it gets to the point where you gotta just laugh..its too silly.

Make magelight have a cooldown and we have a deal

MoeCoastie

shieldbreaker spam only works if the target is spamming shields. hmmmm...wonder how to counter that?

rfennell_ESO

olsborg wrote: »

Either make SB only procc from melee weapons, or give the entire set a 2 second cooldown on procc. If 3 people are completely lame and spam light attack on anyone using a ward/shield, it gets to the point where you gotta just laugh..its too silly.

The problem with "melee" only is 90% of the time you can't hit people with melee light attacks.

The other problem is most of the time when you want to use it the dude you are trying to use it on is standing in the center of 5 daedric mines. Lamest play style ever lol.

Ragnaroek93

I play stamblade as my main and sorcs are the hardest encounters by far in my opinion (even harder than redguard stamina DKs with 2hand axe + reverb). I would highly recommend to go for shieldbreaker because it's a very good overall set in pvp, very strong against magicka builds (the next update will favour magicka builds) and because it's cheap (only 25k tel var stones).
The mistake a lot people make with this set is that they just start spamming light attacks, which won't work well. Just play normal like you would not use shieldbreaker and weave light attacks and surprise attack. Once the sorc is on low health you can try to finish him by light attacking. The set helps a lot.
If you don't have many CP you won't have much magic defense so I would recommend going sword and shield with reflect on your main bar.
Just ignore and report all the sorc players who will whisper and tell you that you need to l2p, are a "shieldbreaker psychopath" and won't learn anything anyways by using shieldbreaker, because it's simply not true. I don't use it in duels because I feel bad using it against people who don't use mines and detect pots against me but it's completely legit to use it if the sorc uses everything they have too.
Also funny how sorcs complain that much about a set that counters their shields than in fact their shields hardcounter EVERY critbuild and EVERY dotbuild. I see nearly no sorcs who complain about that. Shields are just terrible designed and shieldbreaker is a bad solution, I agree with that, but it's everything that we have to counter shieldstacking.

If you don't want to use shieldbreaker I would go for Morkuldin. It is possible to kill a sorc with Morkuldin (you need patience and wait for the proc) but will be harder than with shieldbreaker. However Morkuldin is better overall but with the upcoming changes in TG (physical resistance with CP) I'm not sure if I should go Morkuldin, Shieldbreaker or something else. Haven't tried out yet but I tend to Shieldbreaker.

olsborg

I just wish shieldstack was removed, the game would be much more fun without it. I play my sorc without harness magicka and its much more fun. It is however, quite annoying fighting someone spamming hardward and harness over eachother every 3 seconds.

Maphusail

The thing is that Shieldbreaker set itself is very good for pvp even without the 5th set bonus. It has everything stamina build need: max stam, stam recovery, weapon damage... Hunding and Briarheart are very good for pve but are quite useless in pvp due to their weapon crit set bonuses against impenetrable. The only good alternative is Morkuldin but it's rather hard to craft (available after completing the quest, 9 traits) and need a lot of materials (rubedo leather, glyphs etc).