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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

The final problem with the Majica DK

Millerman34n
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I do not know about you guys but I don't wanna be stuck with a resto or be competitive, all the changes commons next patch are great but I need a buff to dragons blood to run a resto and sord and board, plz Zeni just this one thing and all the dk's will be happy, not to mention this will give more STAM DK options!
Edited by Millerman34n on 8 February 2016 14:50

The final problem with the Majica DK 113 votes

Buff dragons blood
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Do not buff dragons blood
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  • Azarath_tiberius
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    Burning Embers man, try it and you'll see. That's IF they don't nerf it before release of TG -_-

    EDIT:
    not to mention this will give more STAM DK options!

    This wont give stamina DKs any option.. Dragonblood scales of magicka, so regardless the % they'll get crap heals.
    Edited by Azarath_tiberius on 8 February 2016 14:58
  • Millerman34n
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    Buff dragons blood
    Burning Embers man, try it and you'll see. That's IF they don't nerf it before release of TG -_-

    EDIT:
    not to mention this will give more STAM DK options!

    This wont give stamina DKs any option.. Dragonblood scales of magicka, so regardless the % they'll get crap heals.

    Dragons blood heals off a percentage, ideally if dragons blood was working as intended all dragon knight would heal for 33% of their missing Heath, My point is it does not scale off maximum Majica like breath of life!
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    This wont give stamina DKs any option.
    Stamina DKs can use vigor
  • Vynist
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    Buff dragons blood
    Burning Embers man, try it and you'll see. That's IF they don't nerf it before release of TG -_-

    EDIT:
    not to mention this will give more STAM DK options!

    This wont give stamina DKs any option.. Dragonblood scales of magicka, so regardless the % they'll get crap heals.

    Uhhhhhh....

    Dragons Blood scales off missing health, not max mag....
  • phillyboy7897
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    Do not buff dragons blood
    Igneous Weapons (Molten Weapons morph): This morph will now grant you and your allies the Major Brutality buff for 30 seconds, in addition to the Major Sorcery buff.

    Get rdy for more lag
  • tennant94
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    Buff dragons blood
    Buff it, it's rubbish. Also magick dks imo shouldnt have to rely on Resto staff.
    Edited by tennant94 on 8 February 2016 20:38
  • Millerman34n
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    Buff dragons blood
    Igneous Weapons (Molten Weapons morph): This morph will now grant you and your allies the Major Brutality buff for 30 seconds, in addition to the Major Sorcery buff.

    Get rdy for more lag

    wtf does that have to do with dragons blood? But I agree with you that change is unnecessary and will probably cause lag.
  • tennant94
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    Buff dragons blood

    Dragons blood
    Edited by tennant94 on 8 February 2016 20:39
  • Lil_Willie
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    Buff dragons blood
    Dragons Blood could use a buff....both morphs too.
  • Suru
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    Burning Embers man, try it and you'll see. That's IF they don't nerf it before release of TG -_-

    EDIT:
    not to mention this will give more STAM DK options!

    This wont give stamina DKs any option.. Dragonblood scales of magicka, so regardless the % they'll get crap heals.

    L2Dk


    Suru
  • Azarath_tiberius
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    Suru wrote: »
    Burning Embers man, try it and you'll see. That's IF they don't nerf it before release of TG -_-

    EDIT:
    not to mention this will give more STAM DK options!

    This wont give stamina DKs any option.. Dragonblood scales of magicka, so regardless the % they'll get crap heals.

    L2Dk

    Good luck getting anything close to decent heals with GDB, if you are stamina spec.

    And then I need to L2Dk

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  • Cody
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    dragons blood gives terrible heals because of the healing reduction in cyrodiil (about 50% reduction I believe) so that 33% is more like 17ish%, which is only about 6Kish considering the average 20K+ HP pool, 6K is nothing in the current meta. One heavy attack can easily eat that heal up.

    Dragons blood needs to be excluded from the heal de-buff in PvP, then it will be effective.

    also, dragon blood heals based off of a PERCENTAGE, not max magicka/spell damage. one can get it to cost less mana, but the heal will be the exact same amount regardless of how much mana or spell damage one has,
    Edited by Cody on 9 February 2016 04:44
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Buff dragons blood
    I dont think burning embers will work as good in open world compared to the dueling on PTS
  • Erynyes
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    Buff dragons blood
    other than phillyboy, i haven't seen anyone against dragonbuff express their opinion, i wanna see more, i'm, just, trying, to, understand...
    ps i'm a nb, #freemagdk
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  • Firerock2
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    Do not buff dragons blood
    Buff it but make it scale off of max magicka. Allowing Stam DK's to access another powerful self heal that uses their secondary resource is too much.

    EDIT: I meant to vote buff it :(
    Edited by Firerock2 on 9 February 2016 09:09
  • Johngo0036
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    Buff dragons blood
    Obviously i would like a buff to DGB,

    However i was testing with all the other magicka based healing a DK now has on PTS and i was kinda amazed at the amount of healing I was receiving..

    It is NOT GDB and if they dont buff it a bit they can just as well remove it and give us some other skill... maybe an execute..
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  • wrathofrraath
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    If there are no allies in your group, Cauterize should heal the caster imo.
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    DK heals OP
  • EsoRecon
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    Yo @Millerman34n be happy you got buffs at all... Stam Sorc here and I've been sitting at the worst class in game for a long time. And I still get no buffs.
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  • KozawahGaming
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    There's a lot wrong with Magicka DK. I'm waiting til I hear of a buff with them to go back to playing this game. First off, why does our abilities have inconsistent damage types? Burning Talons for instance does Fire, Magic and physical Damage so we can't maximize our champion points effectively. Secondly, most of our damage is DoTs. Dots are useless in PvP due to every (competent) player running a purge ability. I could go on, but I don't really want too.
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    Vet 1 Templar- Kozawah Incarnic (None/Magicka/Healer)
    Level 4 DK- Trecldur (Magicka)
  • Erynyes
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    Buff dragons blood
    There's a lot wrong with Magicka DK. I'm waiting til I hear of a buff with them to go back to playing this game. First off, why does our abilities have inconsistent damage types? Burning Talons for instance does Fire, Magic and physical Damage so we can't maximize our champion points effectively. Secondly, most of our damage is DoTs. Dots are useless in PvP due to every (competent) player running a purge ability. I could go on, but I don't really want too.

    burning talon will be fix in thieves guild DLC, it will now apply flame damage (also elemental expert and thaumaturge will be merge togheter and thaumaturge will now affect dots damage), also dots will go through shields and purge got nerf, you can probably come back playin this game
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  • KozawahGaming
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    Erynyes wrote: »
    There's a lot wrong with Magicka DK. I'm waiting til I hear of a buff with them to go back to playing this game. First off, why does our abilities have inconsistent damage types? Burning Talons for instance does Fire, Magic and physical Damage so we can't maximize our champion points effectively. Secondly, most of our damage is DoTs. Dots are useless in PvP due to every (competent) player running a purge ability. I could go on, but I don't really want too.

    burning talon will be fix in thieves guild DLC, it will now apply flame damage (also elemental expert and thaumaturge will be merge togheter and thaumaturge will now affect dots damage), also dots will go through shields and purge got nerf, you can probably come back playin this game

    Thank god. My Xbox Guildmates have been begging me to stop playing Fallout 4. Plus to be honest, I miss leveling up my DK. Little level 4 that has been researching traits like crazy to get Karg's gear early as possible.
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    Vet 1 Templar- Kozawah Incarnic (None/Magicka/Healer)
    Level 4 DK- Trecldur (Magicka)
  • FloppyTouch
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    Buff dragons blood
    Pls return gdb q.q
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Buff dragons blood
    Erynyes wrote: »
    There's a lot wrong with Magicka DK. I'm waiting til I hear of a buff with them to go back to playing this game. First off, why does our abilities have inconsistent damage types? Burning Talons for instance does Fire, Magic and physical Damage so we can't maximize our champion points effectively. Secondly, most of our damage is DoTs. Dots are useless in PvP due to every (competent) player running a purge ability. I could go on, but I don't really want too.

    burning talon will be fix in thieves guild DLC, it will now apply flame damage (also elemental expert and thaumaturge will be merge togheter and thaumaturge will now affect dots damage), also dots will go through shields and purge got nerf, you can probably come back playin this game

    Thank god. My Xbox Guildmates have been begging me to stop playing Fallout 4. Plus to be honest, I miss leveling up my DK. Little level 4 that has been researching traits like crazy to get Karg's gear early as possible.

    Your dk experience comes from a level 4 crafter? Yet you are complaining about dk skills? I would suggest not going around spreading false information in an area looking for solutions
  • Galvanize
    Galvanize
    Buff dragons blood
    I would love a buff to this. I don't like using a resto on my backbar for heals.
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  • KozawahGaming
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    Erynyes wrote: »
    There's a lot wrong with Magicka DK. I'm waiting til I hear of a buff with them to go back to playing this game. First off, why does our abilities have inconsistent damage types? Burning Talons for instance does Fire, Magic and physical Damage so we can't maximize our champion points effectively. Secondly, most of our damage is DoTs. Dots are useless in PvP due to every (competent) player running a purge ability. I could go on, but I don't really want too.

    burning talon will be fix in thieves guild DLC, it will now apply flame damage (also elemental expert and thaumaturge will be merge togheter and thaumaturge will now affect dots damage), also dots will go through shields and purge got nerf, you can probably come back playin this game

    Thank god. My Xbox Guildmates have been begging me to stop playing Fallout 4. Plus to be honest, I miss leveling up my DK. Little level 4 that has been researching traits like crazy to get Karg's gear early as possible.

    Your dk experience comes from a level 4 crafter? Yet you are complaining about dk skills? I would suggest not going around spreading false information in an area looking for solutions

    Had 3 different Magicka DK's (all in Vet levels) before this one. Deleted them since I was unsatisfied with them, but loved the concept.

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    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on 12 February 2016 19:47
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  • Zimm
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    Buff dragons blood
    I love playing Magicka DK even as it is now on live. Obviously not the best class but it's still fun. Dragon's blood being buffed would be awesome. I hate needing resto on a dk, Sword Board/Destro would be my preferred play style all day.
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  • Jormasaurus
    Do not buff dragons blood
    I'll have to be the odd one out and say that I don't think it needs a buff. I've mained a magicka DK since console launch and I'm still using dragon blood as my main heal. With a decent hp pool and some cp in healing it becomes an ok heal for getting myself out of execute range. And with the upcoming patch making Inhale and Burning embers even stronger healing wise, I think buffing DB would be a complete overkill.
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  • MrGigglypants
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    Do not buff dragons blood
    tennant94 wrote: »
    Buff it, it's rubbish. Also magick dks imo shouldnt have to rely on Resto staff.

    Every magicka class except templars has to why should dk's be an exception.
  • Runkorko
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    Buff dragons blood
    tennant94 wrote: »
    Buff it, it's rubbish. Also magick dks imo shouldnt have to rely on Resto staff.

    Every magicka class except templars has to why should dk's be an exception.

    Maybe because we dont have sorcs shield stack or NB evasion and we have no mobility at all. Try relly on healing ward as DK. i beg you! And blessing of resto or combat prayer wont help you much too. I LOVE ppl like you. You cleary see DK need to be balanced but you and rats like you continue to flame us like we are damn OP... Tbh DK never be OP, vampire dk was, there is a diference. And dont argue with me, i dont care about your opinion. Go post smart ideas on your class forum. Have a nice day.
  • MrGigglypants
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    Do not buff dragons blood
    tennant94 wrote: »
    Buff it, it's rubbish. Also magick dks imo shouldnt have to rely on Resto staff.

    Every magicka class except templars has to why should dk's be an exception.

    Maybe because we dont have sorcs shield stack or NB evasion and we have no mobility at all. Try relly on healing ward as DK. i beg you! And blessing of resto or combat prayer wont help you much too. I LOVE ppl like you. You cleary see DK need to be balanced but you and rats like you continue to flame us like we are damn OP... Tbh DK never be OP, vampire dk was, there is a diference. And dont argue with me, i dont care about your opinion. Go post smart ideas on your class forum. Have a nice day.

    You're avoiding the point even sorcs slot a resto staff and use it in combination with their 1 shield nb's with cloak (which rarely works) gdb is an anti execute heal and embers is being buffed as we speak to be ridiculously good heals (20k crit heals on pts) so no gdb does not need further adjustments atleast not at this time. If you're going to post theory crafting concepts you have to include upcoming changes.
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