why is it zos wont fix pvp

Jitterbug

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@PeaNutShotz Azura is my home campaign...we're well aware of the issues in there. Also Haderus on Xbox and Azura on PS4. We know.

DUEL ME BRO!!

WitchyWarrior

I miss PVP. I hit Rank 24 a few months ago and want so bad to get higher, but stopped for now because of the lag/Zergs.

Now I mindlessly run around in circles farming in Wrothgar while waiting patiently for something to change in Azuras.
I miss the action! I check the forums everyday for any new info on upcoming changes, which makes me miss playing even more. The next major update that should have some of the purposed changes(hopefully) needs to hurry up and get here!

That whole Million dollar thing that I can't enter because New York isn't eligible really put a damper on my positive optimistic view of this game.
PVP is really now the only thing I am staying hopeful for. And pretty much the only reason for that is because @ZOS_BrianWheeler does a good job(in my opinion) of listening & communicating with the hardcore PVP'ers that know what they're talking about.

Once It isn't as Zergified and laggy as it is now, I'll be back playing non-stop in PVPland and won't be here with my useless & stupid comments
Sorry, I just wanted to say out loud that I miss it and hope it at least gets playable again soon!

Nutshotz

Wow I'm impressed on how I got wheeler to respond. Rolls eyes. Idc if u have to get the ceo and there grandmother on this project to fix pvp. As of right now pvp blows, and pve is bleh. To whom ever stated quit firing firing the ppl who know what they are doing it agree 110% as for wheeler you'll gain my respect back and other when garbage cyrodill is fixed. As for now I can't even say you earn browny points.

FENGRUSH

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

Wow I'm impressed on how I got wheeler to respond. Rolls eyes. Idc if u have to get the ceo and there grandmother on this project to fix pvp. As of right now pvp blows, and pve is bleh. To whom ever stated quit firing firing the ppl who know what they are doing it agree 110% as for wheeler you'll gain my respect back and other when garbage cyrodill is fixed. As for now I can't even say you earn browny points.

Dont deny him your brownie points!

MormondPayne_EP

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@PeaNutShotz Azura is my home campaign...we're well aware of the issues in there. Also Haderus on Xbox and Azura on PS4. We know.

Cool, that means some issues will be fixed soon, right? Right? Any day now... maybe next month... oh wait... next year... maybe not even then...

Darlgon

Preyfar wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We know.

This is should be the standard ZOS acknowledgement for a problem, along with the handprint. "We know".

ZOS is the Dark Brotherhood.

Publius_Scipio

Brian Wheeler was a guest on the last episode of ESO Live. He answered questions, specifically discussed PvP performance, and touched upon some future PvP additions. Many of you seem to run on the assumption that ZOS (or Brian/Wrobel specifically) don't care, blah blah blah BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHH FLEX BLAHHHHH.

How about you give ZOS the decency of respect that they are people that going to work just like many other people, making a living, and put the effort into 1.) keeping their jobs by meeting certain employee performance criteria and 2.) as game developers it is probably more often true than not that they have pride in their product. That product being ESO.

You want the next ESO Live guest to be David Blaine? He will appear on the show and for his trick he will enter and suspend himself inside the megaserver itself and the lag will go away.... What do you guys want at this very moment from the people of ZOS than what they have already said? Should Brian start handing out vials of his own blood as penance for what many of you perceive as a video game crime against you (lol)?

I will further add (unless someone can prove me wrong) that no other big AAA game company puts so much effort into keeping in touch with their customers. ESO Live, Gina and others here on the forums, etc.

We wish you a muscular Christmas! We wish you a muscular Christmas!! We wish you a muscular Christmassssssss!!!!! ANDDDD A FLEXXXINNNGGGGGGGGGG NEW YEARRRRR!!!!!!!! *bells jingling*

Happy and safe holiday season everyone!

Edit: One last thing. Hektik, Hektik 1-5, Hektik velociraptor, or whatever the hell you call yourself these days... There is a man on DC, His name is STEVE...... You aren't even worthy to shine his shoes HekSTICK.

Tower_Of_Shame

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@PeaNutShotz Azura is my home campaign...we're well aware of the issues in there. Also Haderus on Xbox and Azura on PS4. We know.

The lagg caused by:



Latest Live episode:


What will be the next one?

dantator

Ezareth wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@PeaNutShotz Azura is my home campaign...we're well aware of the issues in there. Also Haderus on Xbox and Azura on PS4. We know.

There is a player called BrianWheeler running around on Azura's Star.

I wonder....what better name to hide behind than your own!

We need to find Brian Wheeler and Uppercut spam him ;P

Raizin

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Just a little info, I am not saying it is bad or good, but the last ESO live had Brian Wheeler, he explained a little more in depth on how the server works in cyrodiil, might be a good watch for some that think they are doing nothing or don't care, getting a few facts can't hurt.

I pvp everyday on lagzura, and no one would love to see the lag fixed more than me, but having worked as an Enterprise Administrator and many years in the computer industry, sometimes things are not as easy to fix as we wish they were, I have no idea how much time ZOS spends on this issue, I do believe it is high on the list and through trial and error they will eventually make it better, but I know it can not come soon enough.

other games with similar AvA setup are fine performance wise, why ESO cant do it?

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Brian Wheeler was a guest on the last episode of ESO Live. He answered questions, specifically discussed PvP performance, and touched upon some future PvP additions. Many of you seem to run on the assumption that ZOS (or Brian/Wrobel specifically) don't care, blah blah blah BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHH FLEX BLAHHHHH.

How about you give ZOS the decency of respect that they are people that going to work just like many other people, making a living, and put the effort into 1.) keeping their jobs by meeting certain employee performance criteria and 2.) as game developers it is probably more often true than not that they have pride in their product. That product being ESO.

You want the next ESO Live guest to be David Blaine? He will appear on the show and for his trick he will enter and suspend himself inside the megaserver itself and the lag will go away.... What do you guys want at this very moment from the people of ZOS than what they have already said? Should Brian start handing out vials of his own blood as penance for what many of you perceive as a video game crime against you (lol)?

I will further add (unless someone can prove me wrong) that no other big AAA game company puts so much effort into keeping in touch with their customers. ESO Live, Gina and others here on the forums, etc.

We wish you a muscular Christmas! We wish you a muscular Christmas!! We wish you a muscular Christmassssssss!!!!! ANDDDD A FLEXXXINNNGGGGGGGGGG NEW YEARRRRR!!!!!!!! *bells jingling*

Happy and safe holiday season everyone!

Edit: One last thing. Hektik, Hektik 1-5, Hektik velociraptor, or whatever the hell you call yourself these days... There is a man on DC, His name is STEVE...... You aren't even worthy to shine his shoes HekSTICK.

No.

altemriel

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

2 screen shots of just logging in and not doing nothing but going to get a new Mundas stone. I'm feeling the lag from BRK, and I'm at FARE. not only is this pathetic but wow zos wow





idc if my forum account gets banned as ive stated before. I'm clearly stating a point that garbage needs to get addressed instead of blaming it on a class that its there (crits) that are causing the lag. ROFLMFAO. tried to get near BRK and crashed 5 times and finally said screw this, out of frustration. tho whats the point of lagging the server hint hint......

I'm out. way to frustrated to even want to type this discussion

they have stated several times, that they are working on it. so be patient and it will come.

Publius_Scipio

Raizin wrote: »

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Just a little info, I am not saying it is bad or good, but the last ESO live had Brian Wheeler, he explained a little more in depth on how the server works in cyrodiil, might be a good watch for some that think they are doing nothing or don't care, getting a few facts can't hurt.

I pvp everyday on lagzura, and no one would love to see the lag fixed more than me, but having worked as an Enterprise Administrator and many years in the computer industry, sometimes things are not as easy to fix as we wish they were, I have no idea how much time ZOS spends on this issue, I do believe it is high on the list and through trial and error they will eventually make it better, but I know it can not come soon enough.

other games with similar AvA setup are fine performance wise, why ESO cant do it?

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Brian Wheeler was a guest on the last episode of ESO Live. He answered questions, specifically discussed PvP performance, and touched upon some future PvP additions. Many of you seem to run on the assumption that ZOS (or Brian/Wrobel specifically) don't care, blah blah blah BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHH FLEX BLAHHHHH.

How about you give ZOS the decency of respect that they are people that going to work just like many other people, making a living, and put the effort into 1.) keeping their jobs by meeting certain employee performance criteria and 2.) as game developers it is probably more often true than not that they have pride in their product. That product being ESO.

You want the next ESO Live guest to be David Blaine? He will appear on the show and for his trick he will enter and suspend himself inside the megaserver itself and the lag will go away.... What do you guys want at this very moment from the people of ZOS than what they have already said? Should Brian start handing out vials of his own blood as penance for what many of you perceive as a video game crime against you (lol)?

I will further add (unless someone can prove me wrong) that no other big AAA game company puts so much effort into keeping in touch with their customers. ESO Live, Gina and others here on the forums, etc.

We wish you a muscular Christmas! We wish you a muscular Christmas!! We wish you a muscular Christmassssssss!!!!! ANDDDD A FLEXXXINNNGGGGGGGGGG NEW YEARRRRR!!!!!!!! *bells jingling*

Happy and safe holiday season everyone!

Edit: One last thing. Hektik, Hektik 1-5, Hektik velociraptor, or whatever the hell you call yourself these days... There is a man on DC, His name is STEVE...... You aren't even worthy to shine his shoes HekSTICK.

No.

So that's no to happy holidays? Or is it no to giving ZOS some respect?

Either way that's scummy.

Publius_Scipio

altemriel wrote: »

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

2 screen shots of just logging in and not doing nothing but going to get a new Mundas stone. I'm feeling the lag from BRK, and I'm at FARE. not only is this pathetic but wow zos wow





idc if my forum account gets banned as ive stated before. I'm clearly stating a point that garbage needs to get addressed instead of blaming it on a class that its there (crits) that are causing the lag. ROFLMFAO. tried to get near BRK and crashed 5 times and finally said screw this, out of frustration. tho whats the point of lagging the server hint hint......

I'm out. way to frustrated to even want to type this discussion

they have stated several times, that they are working on it. so be patient and it will come.

You have common sense and decency.

JamilaRaj

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

What do you guys want at this very moment from the people of ZOS than what they have already said?

Talk is cheap, show us the code.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I will further add (unless someone can prove me wrong) that no other big AAA game company puts so much effort into keeping in touch with their customers. ESO Live, Gina and others here on the forums, etc.

They just advertise their product and not very honestly, beause they took their time to announce e.g. P2W transition or The Great Content Drought of 2014-2015.

Though The Drought had some pros, in hindsight, such as fewer changes also meant fewer regressions.

Raizin

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Just a little info, I am not saying it is bad or good, but the last ESO live had Brian Wheeler, he explained a little more in depth on how the server works in cyrodiil, might be a good watch for some that think they are doing nothing or don't care, getting a few facts can't hurt.

I pvp everyday on lagzura, and no one would love to see the lag fixed more than me, but having worked as an Enterprise Administrator and many years in the computer industry, sometimes things are not as easy to fix as we wish they were, I have no idea how much time ZOS spends on this issue, I do believe it is high on the list and through trial and error they will eventually make it better, but I know it can not come soon enough.

other games with similar AvA setup are fine performance wise, why ESO cant do it?

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Brian Wheeler was a guest on the last episode of ESO Live. He answered questions, specifically discussed PvP performance, and touched upon some future PvP additions. Many of you seem to run on the assumption that ZOS (or Brian/Wrobel specifically) don't care, blah blah blah BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHH FLEX BLAHHHHH.

How about you give ZOS the decency of respect that they are people that going to work just like many other people, making a living, and put the effort into 1.) keeping their jobs by meeting certain employee performance criteria and 2.) as game developers it is probably more often true than not that they have pride in their product. That product being ESO.

You want the next ESO Live guest to be David Blaine? He will appear on the show and for his trick he will enter and suspend himself inside the megaserver itself and the lag will go away.... What do you guys want at this very moment from the people of ZOS than what they have already said? Should Brian start handing out vials of his own blood as penance for what many of you perceive as a video game crime against you (lol)?

I will further add (unless someone can prove me wrong) that no other big AAA game company puts so much effort into keeping in touch with their customers. ESO Live, Gina and others here on the forums, etc.

We wish you a muscular Christmas! We wish you a muscular Christmas!! We wish you a muscular Christmassssssss!!!!! ANDDDD A FLEXXXINNNGGGGGGGGGG NEW YEARRRRR!!!!!!!! *bells jingling*

Happy and safe holiday season everyone!

Edit: One last thing. Hektik, Hektik 1-5, Hektik velociraptor, or whatever the hell you call yourself these days... There is a man on DC, His name is STEVE...... You aren't even worthy to shine his shoes HekSTICK.

No.

So that's no to happy holidays? Or is it no to giving ZOS some respect?

Either way that's scummy.

Hollidays cant be happy if the game is garbage sorry.

Once again, other games can do it, why cant ZoS (in more timely manner, then ZoS - since its not fixed or not improved for over 2 years, but actualy its worse and worse)

Edit: Before u pull argument like "go play those other games" ... my answer alrdy is: Buddy pls, i want this game to be good and with no performance/lag issues, but lets face the facts here - IT ISNT (2 years bro,2years of patience)

koby-xxrwb17_ESO

Man it's funny seeing non-DC players argue with publius

Publius_Scipio

koby-xxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Man it's funny seeing non-DC players argue with publius

Do I or Krotha know you?

Jitterbug

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

koby-xxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Man it's funny seeing non-DC players argue with publius

Do I or Krotha know you?

Does anyone really know anyone anymore..? That's the real question.

Soris

Is the EU server stepchild? Come here too Brian

Merlight

Soris wrote: »

Is the EU server stepchild? Come here too Brian

I guess the lag isn't always greener on the other side of the Atlantic.

Kutsuu

They have been making incremental adjustments to help with lag almost every patch. This isn't something you fix overnight, as that requires knowing exactly what is causing it and exactly how to remedy that cause - diagnosis is often the biggest time investment.

Tomato

They would rather make money off crown store items

Raizin

Kutsuu wrote: »

They have been making incremental adjustments to help with lag almost every patch. This isn't something you fix overnight, as that requires knowing exactly what is causing it and exactly how to remedy that cause - diagnosis is often the biggest time investment.

u mean those (every new patch) which broke the game more?

Hell of a patching mate.

Kutsuu

Raizin wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

They have been making incremental adjustments to help with lag almost every patch. This isn't something you fix overnight, as that requires knowing exactly what is causing it and exactly how to remedy that cause - diagnosis is often the biggest time investment.

u mean those (every new patch) which broke the game more?

Hell of a patching mate.

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

From 2.2.7 patch notes:
Adjusted several abilities to improve the performance in Cyrodiil. The following abilities or item set abilities will now only apply their buffs to allies who are in your group, rather than all nearby allies:
Exploitation
Hemorrhage
Illuminate
Meritorious Service
Mountain’s Blessing
Powerful Assault
Restoring Aura
Radiant Aura
Restoring Twilight

From 2.2.5 patch notes:
Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:
Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs

Wollust

Kutsuu wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

They have been making incremental adjustments to help with lag almost every patch. This isn't something you fix overnight, as that requires knowing exactly what is causing it and exactly how to remedy that cause - diagnosis is often the biggest time investment.

u mean those (every new patch) which broke the game more?

Hell of a patching mate.

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

From 2.2.7 patch notes:
Adjusted several abilities to improve the performance in Cyrodiil. The following abilities or item set abilities will now only apply their buffs to allies who are in your group, rather than all nearby allies:
Exploitation
Hemorrhage
Illuminate
Meritorious Service
Mountain’s Blessing
Powerful Assault
Restoring Aura
Radiant Aura
Restoring Twilight

From 2.2.5 patch notes:
Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:
Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs

Blabla, fact is performance has been getting worse with every update.

Publius_Scipio

Jitterbug wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

koby-xxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Man it's funny seeing non-DC players argue with publius

Do I or Krotha know you?

Does anyone really know anyone anymore..? That's the real question.

THE REAL QUESTION IS!.... Spinach and kale salad with cherry tomatoes and grilled chicken OR roast lamb, mashed potatoes and fresh string beans for lunch?

JamilaRaj

Wollust wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

They have been making incremental adjustments to help with lag almost every patch. This isn't something you fix overnight, as that requires knowing exactly what is causing it and exactly how to remedy that cause - diagnosis is often the biggest time investment.

u mean those (every new patch) which broke the game more?

Hell of a patching mate.

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

From 2.2.7 patch notes:
Adjusted several abilities to improve the performance in Cyrodiil. The following abilities or item set abilities will now only apply their buffs to allies who are in your group, rather than all nearby allies:
Exploitation
Hemorrhage
Illuminate
Meritorious Service
Mountain’s Blessing
Powerful Assault
Restoring Aura
Radiant Aura
Restoring Twilight

From 2.2.5 patch notes:
Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:
Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs

Blabla, fact is performance has been getting worse with every update.

Yes, but without valiant patching, performance would be worser. Uh.

Ezareth

Performance took the biggest dive in 1.6 for sure. That was when they added all these AoE buff abilities and a ton of new champion points and associated passives.

I for one appreciated and agreed with Brian's ESO live explanation of some of the things going on behind the scenes. These issues should have been considered from the design stage before adding them to begin with but no it appears they are very performance conscious and going forward as long as improvements are made (and we dont take steps backwards) I'll be satisfied.

_Chaos

Ezareth wrote: »

Performance took the biggest dive in 1.6 for sure. That was when they added all these AoE buff abilities and a ton of new champion points and associated passives.

I for one appreciated and agreed with Brian's ESO live explanation of some of the things going on behind the scenes. These issues should have been considered from the design stage before adding them to begin with but no it appears they are very performance conscious and going forward as long as improvements are made (and we dont take steps backwards) I'll be satisfied.

Agreed. As much of a snip show as the last year has been, I do wholeheartedly appreciate the fact that they're moving in the right direction and also communicating more. It's too bad it took a couple of forum bans to get the point across.

Keep up the momentum ZOS, you're on the right track.

Raizin

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Performance took the biggest dive in 1.6 for sure. That was when they added all these AoE buff abilities and a ton of new champion points and associated passives.

I for one appreciated and agreed with Brian's ESO live explanation of some of the things going on behind the scenes. These issues should have been considered from the design stage before adding them to begin with but no it appears they are very performance conscious and going forward as long as improvements are made (and we dont take steps backwards) I'll be satisfied.

Agreed. As much of a snip show as the last year has been, I do wholeheartedly appreciate the fact that they're moving in the right direction and also communicating more. It's too bad it took a couple of forum bans to get the point across.

Keep up the momentum ZOS, you're on the right track.

uhm