Lol @ZoS

Galalin

Look at these forums... nerf this nerf that.... l2p this l2p that... just a bloody mess and who does ZoS have to blame? Themselves! Catering to nerfs from the start...every patch about nerfs. Well good job ZoS look at your game/forums now. Maybe ZoS will see now why other games make small and specific changes on a regular basis instead of huge amounts of changes with blanket fixes.

Ah who am i kidding this is ZoS

DK SCRUB OUT

Levo18

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

SleepyTroll

Someone said the other day in zone chat that this is the only game they play that they have to completely change their build and L2P all over again after a short break because of the amount of changes ZOS makes to to the game.

Galalin

And the funny part is they have anounced they are doing it again in not this update but the following one... who are they kidding everytime they do this they make things 10x worse. Wake up ZoS....small and specific changes often will get you working towards balance.... overhauling half the skills/abilites, passives and game mechanics while trying to create a balance is a virtual nightmare with almost certain failure.

Alucardo

Don't worry man, #NoNerfNovember is shortly approaching us. It's a month to stop all the whining and nerf threads, giving us time to focus on more constructive topics like balancing the weaker classes. At the moment this appears to be Templar and DK (source: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/226491/which-class-do-you-feel-is-overpowered).
The Sorc and Nightblade are in really good places right now, and even Templar isn't doing too bad. IMO, every class is almost on level, but the two left behind just need some tinkering to bring them up to speed with Sorc and NB.
During #NoNerfNovember, I really hope people will take this time to look at possible solutions to that, instead of trying to nerf the already well-designed and working classes. Remember, we want balance, not nerfing - because that leads to unbalance, which is why we're stuck in this cycle and not getting any where.
But hey, that doesn't mean if you play a Sorc and want a change that you can't ask for it. Not at all. As long as you're not crying for a nerf in some manner, you're good to go.
I truly hope a majority of us participate, and believe it'd make the forums a better place, and give ZOS some valuable feedback instead of rage text after being defeated, leading in unnecessary nerfs.

Be apart of the solution, not the problem. #NoNerfNovember

Scyantific

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

Alucardo

Scyantific wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

Such an appropriate video you deserve some points thrown your way xD

Galalin

Scyantific wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

My thoughts exactly

DK SCRUB OUT

Armitas

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Someone said the other day in zone chat that this is the only game they play that they have to completely change their build and L2P all over again after a short break because of the amount of changes ZOS makes to to the game.

Yeah, this is me every update. Scrounging around trying to find something that still works, something they didn't break. So annoying, and yeah it's the only game like that. Most games you look forward to an update, this game you dread it.

1Grumpy_dunmer1

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

I'dk dude maybe a small buff to Templar and a slightly larger one for magicka DK. NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE NERFED. Obviously what has been Goin on isn't working let's try buffs instead of nerfs for a minute here.

Darnathian

1Grumpy_dunmer1 wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

I'dk dude maybe a small buff to Templar and a slightly larger one for magicka DK. NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE NERFED. Obviously what has been Goin on isn't working let's try buffs instead of nerfs for a minute here.

I dont know about that. How do those buffs fix shield stacking and the fact the Cloak is a 3 in one ability. I agree with NBs that there should be no increasing cost on cloak because it doesnt always work and there are a lot of counters. However, the Purge on it needs to go. Slot purge like everyone else. You want to stay invisible fine. But to be a purge as well is OP. No other ability has a secondary benefit that big.

And for the other, remove shield breaker set but remove the ability to STACK SHIELDS for the love of god please.

dodgehopper_ESO

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Someone said the other day in zone chat that this is the only game they play that they have to completely change their build and L2P all over again after a short break because of the amount of changes ZOS makes to to the game.

The funny thing about that statement is that its a problem I've seen in every MMO that I've ever played, to greater or lesser degrees. City of Heroes made changes that caused people to relearn their builds. TSW did. STO did. SWTOR did. SWG did. I think the only MMO I can think of that I've played in some time that didn't cause me to relearn my build was DCUO. DCUO did a great job of making me adapt though. Lets be serious though, the game did start fairly flawed for the Warrior/Rogue types. It was just a much better game for the mages, and that would be fine if the other playstyles weren't being pitched at us. They still have ample opportunity to stabilize the game systems and make things work out. I'm not overly bothered by it, even though I do think some core game systems need to change, and Templar and DK needs some tweaks.

Soris

Private servers... One day... One day with 1.5 settings...

Jorva

Galalin wrote: »

Look at these forums... nerf this nerf that.... l2p this l2p that... just a bloody mess and who does ZoS have to blame? Themselves! Catering to nerfs from the start...every patch about nerfs. Well good job ZoS look at your game/forums now. Maybe ZoS will see now why other games make small and specific changes on a regular basis instead of huge amounts of changes with blanket fixes.

Ah who am i kidding this is ZoS

DK SCRUB OUT

Everyone is getting hit by nerf bullets left and right. Mass purchase nerf weapons and ammunition from your local walmart right now and make sure there is nothing left for ZoS to use against us.

The community needs YOU to join our cause

Ja50nX

How I imagine ESO will end up if ZOS keep catering to the QQer's......

tennant94

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

Says the dk...

Sharakor

PvP is dead, they should make Cyrodiil PvE and seperate factions already, maybe that's what they're aiming for.

pogopwns_ESO

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

buff dk LMAO if you cant kite for 10 minutes or kill 1v5 with almost any dk build you are a baddy. DK is the premier PvP troll class.

KozawahGaming

Darnathian wrote: »

1Grumpy_dunmer1 wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

I'dk dude maybe a small buff to Templar and a slightly larger one for magicka DK. NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE NERFED. Obviously what has been Goin on isn't working let's try buffs instead of nerfs for a minute here.

I dont know about that. How do those buffs fix shield stacking and the fact the Cloak is a 3 in one ability. I agree with NBs that there should be no increasing cost on cloak because it doesnt always work and there are a lot of counters. However, the Purge on it needs to go. Slot purge like everyone else. You want to stay invisible fine. But to be a purge as well is OP. No other ability has a secondary benefit that big.

And for the other, remove shield breaker set but remove the ability to STACK SHIELDS for the love of god please.

Then what is the point of having two morphs? The other one is garbage. So what you want NB's to spam Cloak right up to you and get a guaranteed crit with Surprise Attack or Concealed Weapon for 9-11k damage, then fear you, ambush, cloak and surprised attack/concealed weapon? Because that will be the new build for NB's if you want the purge gone.

Besides, NB's are basically scouts for the large group. Why slot two abilities one to cloak and then the other to use purge in support skill? Plus it only removes TWO conditions in the 2.5 second duration. Moved to what? 2.9 seconds with the passives? NB's would be useless with it nerfed like you want. Then a new class would be the flavor of the patch, and YOU will complain about something.

Darnathian

KozawahGaming wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

1Grumpy_dunmer1 wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

I'dk dude maybe a small buff to Templar and a slightly larger one for magicka DK. NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE NERFED. Obviously what has been Goin on isn't working let's try buffs instead of nerfs for a minute here.

I dont know about that. How do those buffs fix shield stacking and the fact the Cloak is a 3 in one ability. I agree with NBs that there should be no increasing cost on cloak because it doesnt always work and there are a lot of counters. However, the Purge on it needs to go. Slot purge like everyone else. You want to stay invisible fine. But to be a purge as well is OP. No other ability has a secondary benefit that big.

And for the other, remove shield breaker set but remove the ability to STACK SHIELDS for the love of god please.

Then what is the point of having two morphs? The other one is garbage. So what you want NB's to spam Cloak right up to you and get a guaranteed crit with Surprise Attack or Concealed Weapon for 9-11k damage, then fear you, ambush, cloak and surprised attack/concealed weapon? Because that will be the new build for NB's if you want the purge gone.

Besides, NB's are basically scouts for the large group. Why slot two abilities one to cloak and then the other to use purge in support skill? Plus it only removes TWO conditions in the 2.5 second duration. Moved to what? 2.9 seconds with the passives? NB's would be useless with it nerfed like you want. Then a new class would be the flavor of the patch, and YOU will complain about something.

It needs a different morph. Yes you should have to slot two abilities. Like i said, like everyone else. I have a magblade. I know how OP that skill is.

NBs are not scouts for large groups. You have to be kidding me. How much time have you spent in PVP? Scouting and large groups dont happen anymore.

NBs are mostly gankers. Having that ability is ridiculously OP if it purges as well.

Jorva

Scyantific wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

My reaction when seeing your reaction

KozawahGaming

Darnathian wrote: »

KozawahGaming wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

1Grumpy_dunmer1 wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

I'dk dude maybe a small buff to Templar and a slightly larger one for magicka DK. NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE NERFED. Obviously what has been Goin on isn't working let's try buffs instead of nerfs for a minute here.

I dont know about that. How do those buffs fix shield stacking and the fact the Cloak is a 3 in one ability. I agree with NBs that there should be no increasing cost on cloak because it doesnt always work and there are a lot of counters. However, the Purge on it needs to go. Slot purge like everyone else. You want to stay invisible fine. But to be a purge as well is OP. No other ability has a secondary benefit that big.

And for the other, remove shield breaker set but remove the ability to STACK SHIELDS for the love of god please.

Then what is the point of having two morphs? The other one is garbage. So what you want NB's to spam Cloak right up to you and get a guaranteed crit with Surprise Attack or Concealed Weapon for 9-11k damage, then fear you, ambush, cloak and surprised attack/concealed weapon? Because that will be the new build for NB's if you want the purge gone.

Besides, NB's are basically scouts for the large group. Why slot two abilities one to cloak and then the other to use purge in support skill? Plus it only removes TWO conditions in the 2.5 second duration. Moved to what? 2.9 seconds with the passives? NB's would be useless with it nerfed like you want. Then a new class would be the flavor of the patch, and YOU will complain about something.

It needs a different morph. Yes you should have to slot two abilities. Like i said, like everyone else. I have a magblade. I know how OP that skill is.

NBs are not scouts for large groups. You have to be kidding me. How much time have you spent in PVP? Scouting and large groups dont happen anymore.

NBs are mostly gankers. Having that ability is ridiculously OP if it purges as well.

So then Sorcs should have knockdown removed from Frags, and my DK should not have shields after doing a Dragon Leap.

Galalin

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

buff dk LMAO if you cant kite for 10 minutes or kill 1v5 with almost any dk build you are a baddy. DK is the premier PvP troll class.

Hey Mr.Baddy... have you even played this games since 1.5? Seriously

tennant94 wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

It all was necessary. The Game is on a good way now just some slight adjustments like a little buff For DK and a decent nerf for NB and its all good.

Says the dk...

Says almost everyone... have you read the forums or played the game?

DK SCRUB OUT