Templars feel alone in pvp

cazlonb16_ESO

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

contact.opiumb16_ESO

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

Indeed

AfkNinja

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

Exactly, this is about expanding on Templar's roles so they can fill all three just like NB and Sorc. DK also needs adjustments. Not all Templar's want to be a Magic based healer/dps. I feel like the Templar Tank and Stamina DPS needs major work. We shouldn't be the only class that has to be a Hybrid to use our class defense. We need a reason to chose a Stamina Templar Tank and Stamina Templar DPS. Biting Jabs and Binding Javelin is not enough, let our healing passives work with all heals stamina included and give us some stamina morphs in our healing tree. Hell I would even take the 2 second channel heal if it had a stamina morph, give Stamina Templar a reason to exist.

newtinmpls

eliisra wrote: »

But on campaigns with lower population or in IC, with mostly solo'ers and some pug group made from zone, you wont find many templars. Mainly because individual strength, escaping and mobility is needed to get fun PvP in that environment. Templars lack it. When it's "every man for himself" type PvP, you will mostly encounters NB's and occasional magicka sorc + stamina DK.

Clearly you haven't seen Rheinne Kingsley (one of @JohnnySmith_03 characters) in action. She's crazy aggressive and scary competant. I group with her every chance I get.

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newtinmpls wrote: »

eliisra wrote: »

But on campaigns with lower population or in IC, with mostly solo'ers and some pug group made from zone, you wont find many templars. Mainly because individual strength, escaping and mobility is needed to get fun PvP in that environment. Templars lack it. When it's "every man for himself" type PvP, you will mostly encounters NB's and occasional magicka sorc + stamina DK.

Clearly you haven't seen Rheinne Kingsley (one of @JohnnySmith_03 characters) in action. She's crazy aggressive and scary competant. I group with her every chance I get.

Yeah we all know one or two "legendary" templar, but this is not the point. An average player with a nb, sorcerer or even dk will have a way better K/D ratio than an average templar, no matter what the spec, mag or stam.

zornyan

The point above is true, but anyone will agree, a well played magiplar is near enough immortal, they won't run out of resources, you'll never get their health down before it's healed inmediately, all while they can do heavy dps on you that keeps their health bar full.

A well played stamplar will put you on your ass, and then jabs will tear you a new one before you know what's happened.

Jabs is my favourite against WB spammers, as not only does it hit harder, but because they can't figure out why their health is dropping quicker than mine they are usually easy targets.

Templar's are not easy to master, you can't just spam hardened ward and frags for instance, but by God a good templar is feared on the battlefield, and more than essential in end game pve.

Honestly I've just rolled my 3rd templar, and 6 out of every 10 players I see in the new areas is a templar too.

Cody

I fought what was I think a templar in BwB last night with my mana DK:D My partner kept getting lured to his trap over and over again. I had to go help, and the templar ended up killing my partner and fighting me. he transformed into a WW and jumped me, but unfortunately accidentally exited the game during battle:(

rastadreadlion

AfkNinja wrote: »

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

Exactly, this is about expanding on Templar's roles so they can fill all three just like NB and Sorc. DK also needs adjustments. Not all Templar's want to be a Magic based healer/dps. I feel like the Templar Tank and Stamina DPS needs major work. We shouldn't be the only class that has to be a Hybrid to use our class defense. We need a reason to chose a Stamina Templar Tank and Stamina Templar DPS. Biting Jabs and Binding Javelin is not enough, let our healing passives work with all heals stamina included and give us some stamina morphs in our healing tree. Hell I would even take the 2 second channel heal if it had a stamina morph, give Stamina Templar a reason to exist.

Stamina Templar DPS

Templar Tank

dodgehopper_ESO

rastadreadlion wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

Exactly, this is about expanding on Templar's roles so they can fill all three just like NB and Sorc. DK also needs adjustments. Not all Templar's want to be a Magic based healer/dps. I feel like the Templar Tank and Stamina DPS needs major work. We shouldn't be the only class that has to be a Hybrid to use our class defense. We need a reason to chose a Stamina Templar Tank and Stamina Templar DPS. Biting Jabs and Binding Javelin is not enough, let our healing passives work with all heals stamina included and give us some stamina morphs in our healing tree. Hell I would even take the 2 second channel heal if it had a stamina morph, give Stamina Templar a reason to exist.

Stamina Templar DPS

Templar Tank

No offense but you're posting a build that predates March (and it is November). A lot has happened since then.

AfkNinja

rastadreadlion wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

Exactly, this is about expanding on Templar's roles so they can fill all three just like NB and Sorc. DK also needs adjustments. Not all Templar's want to be a Magic based healer/dps. I feel like the Templar Tank and Stamina DPS needs major work. We shouldn't be the only class that has to be a Hybrid to use our class defense. We need a reason to chose a Stamina Templar Tank and Stamina Templar DPS. Biting Jabs and Binding Javelin is not enough, let our healing passives work with all heals stamina included and give us some stamina morphs in our healing tree. Hell I would even take the 2 second channel heal if it had a stamina morph, give Stamina Templar a reason to exist.

Stamina Templar DPS

Templar Tank

Posting a build does not in any way invalidate what I said. Stamina Templar loses it's primary class role and flavor just for being stamina. No other class is penalized in this manner and other Stamina classes should not be better at healing than a Templar.

contact.opiumb16_ESO

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

rastadreadlion wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

TheBritishBunny wrote: »

I don't know how there can not be many templars your side. We have players here with a few characters, at least 1 templar per user as we need them for Pledges. Try finding a guild that does Pledges, and I'm sure you'll find more Templars.

I'm fairly sure this thread is not about PvE healbots.

Exactly, this is about expanding on Templar's roles so they can fill all three just like NB and Sorc. DK also needs adjustments. Not all Templar's want to be a Magic based healer/dps. I feel like the Templar Tank and Stamina DPS needs major work. We shouldn't be the only class that has to be a Hybrid to use our class defense. We need a reason to chose a Stamina Templar Tank and Stamina Templar DPS. Biting Jabs and Binding Javelin is not enough, let our healing passives work with all heals stamina included and give us some stamina morphs in our healing tree. Hell I would even take the 2 second channel heal if it had a stamina morph, give Stamina Templar a reason to exist.

Stamina Templar DPS

Templar Tank

No offense but you're posting a build that predates March (and it is November). A lot has happened since then.

Indeed. Pre 1.6 templar were a lot better, in those vids the mecanics behind those build simply don't exist anymore.