Miss the old pvp

alakmir

Oh! those OP days , Such damage ! such shield strength ! all gone T_T ... Probably magika nb have been affected more than the rest since the shield strength is so less and u can have more damage if u stack more resources but there comes ur race to help u out . A high elf sorc will have more magika , so more damage and more shield strength but a khajiit manablade won't have such magika and so less shield strength and damage . Finally, I don't have the patience to make a new build for me and no time to play with such effort too . Every time ESO studios changes the whole game with such big contents and expects us to adapt. The dueling is over already since the champions system and now this . Shields were never a problem , the problem was shield stacking . Manablades have just 1shield and tht too has been taken away ..gr8! shift+delete . Gud luck travelers!

Lava_Croft

Zerg in Cyro, zerg in the city, the whole zergy update is kind of ***.

alakmir

T_T Kris , it was pleasure fighting alongside u See u in some other game

Lava_Croft

alakmir wrote: »

T_T Kris , it was pleasure fighting alongside u See u in some other game

Ganj

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Zerg in Cyro, zerg in the city, the whole zergy update is kind of ***.

Its getting boring everyday. I literally cant see anybody less than 3-4 people. Where is the fun if people going to farm next to their base only. For what are they farming anyway? Telvar? Okay then what people going to do with them? Buy best gears. Okay then? No pvp anyway what is the purpose of buying the best gear i dont get it.

alakmir

people will stick to this game until any better mmo comes like black desert. etc. Sad to see ZOS is ruining this game by listening to the QQers who cry coz someone always kills them or they r the first to die or they have never been good in pvp .. Oh wait , m QQing myself here but my reason is different , i want ESO to be fixed at one position and don't move from it . Every time, it changes the whole structure and we need to theory-craft from scratch . I have always liked high damage and medium sustainability which was pre 1.6 stage and now it's gone.

Reeko

HoTs have taken the place of sheilds. I now use Rapid Regen instead of healing ward. Respecced my bastion points into quick recovery. It is not hard to adapt and is actually fun for me!

IxskullzxI

I don't see why this patch is getting so much hate. It's nice not getting rolled by 15k snipes anymore. The TTK is so much better now.

Alucardo

IxskullzxI wrote: »

I don't see why this patch is getting so much hate. It's nice not getting rolled by 15k snipes anymore. The TTK is so much better now.

Usually because of changes like this..

How to fix issues in just one step, by Zenimax

Knootewoot

Edit double

Knootewoot

But sadly it's true. I used to be a hybrid but it's totally gone. And I just can't choose between magicka and stamina. Since I am Breton, Magicka is the better choice but because of the above it is also a bad choice. My character is in Limbo

Reeko

Knootewoot wrote: »

But sadly it's true. I used to be a hybrid but it's totally gone. And I just can't choose between magicka and stamina. Since I am Breton, Magicka is the better choice but because of the above it is also a bad choice. My character is in Limbo

Magicka for sure. Why would it be a bad choice?

AshTal

PvP is now all about mass Zergs, spamming AOE's and hoping you zerg can spam steal tornado and healing faster than their zerg. There are even some groups who have given up fighting for keeps they just run round spamming AOE into every battle because it earns them way more APs than actually trying to Win the war.

Bon_Chen

IxskullzxI wrote: »

I don't see why this patch is getting so much hate. It's nice not getting rolled by 15k snipes anymore. The TTK is so much better now.

I just got killed instantly by focused aim(11k) + hunter xxx(5k) + focused aim(>7k) yesterday...

Volrion

AshTal wrote: »

PvP is now all about mass Zergs, spamming AOE's and hoping you zerg can spam steal tornado and healing faster than their zerg. There are even some groups who have given up fighting for keeps they just run round spamming AOE into every battle because it earns them way more APs than actually trying to Win the war.

hahaha this is a great commentary of the state of things.

GreenSoup2HoT

There were only a couple of things that needed changes in 1.6 and Zos put a complete layer over everything to fix them..

I loved the game 1.6, hate it 1.7. Its zerg or be zerged now. No skill involved. Battle leveled players are literally super hero's

Level cap did not need a raise but they did it anyway. Then they say trails were not designed to scale. Then why even touch the vr level. So stupid. So many set's are now useless.

I guess this is what you get for playing an mmo that is new to mmo's. Did zos even take any pts feedback into consideration? I'd like to see it of they did.

I guess ill hold off until i see some good results in the future.

Darkonflare15

To be honest, I feel nothing has really changed from pvp. People were complaining about pvp. They did some changes. People complaining about that. They did some more changes. I have been seeing the positives and negatives for a long time but as more people complain about the negatives the more negatives appear in the future. This pattern has been going on for a while and I blame qq ers.

Bats0828

Ganj wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Zerg in Cyro, zerg in the city, the whole zergy update is kind of ***.

Its getting boring everyday. I literally cant see anybody less than 3-4 people. Where is the fun if people going to farm next to their base only. For what are they farming anyway? Telvar? Okay then what people going to do with them? Buy best gears. Okay then? No pvp anyway what is the purpose of buying the best gear i dont get it.

I thought i was the only one who gets bored with this game since the latest update came out. I was enjoying playing my khajiit stamina nightblade. My guest campaign is Azura NA server and I am Ebonheart pact alliance, where AD owns the campaign. But I enjoy playing there because there's a lot of action and activity going on. But for the past week, it has been boring. I was excited for the Imperial City, but when I got it, damn...I got bored and disappointed with it. You always have to worry about NPC killing you. Its like there are NPCs in every corner. Imperial City is more like PVE and very small PVP. And people just go to Imperial City just to farm for Tel Var stones to buy the new gears. If you want PVP, the open world Cyrodiil is still the best place. I like capturing keeps, resources, defending it and killing. I miss that kind of game. I once people get bored with Imperial City they will go back to Cyrodiil. Where the real fun and excitement is.

revonine

I too miss 1.6. The tooltip for my concealed weapon is nearly 6K now (still have more gearing to do)and it still feels like I'm hitting players with Styrofoam.

The only way I can describe it is it's literally such a chore to kill anyone now. That goes double for battle leveled players. They do almost no damage to you and just will not die. My heart goes out to players that liked playing in BWB. That's not fun, and I play games to have fun

Dr_Ganknstein

Sounds like all the no skill players that relied on OP abilities are crying and quitting the game. This is awesome!

Ganj

Just go to one of those farming areas next to their bases just show yourself if there is one enemy he will try to escape no matter what. Its not even matter who you are or how good you are anymore If they arent more than 3-4 people they will run most likely. On the other hand if they more than 7-8 player then welcome steel tornados or other stupid aoe abilities perfect for spam.

Yesterday ive seen a dude attacked me and efter that tried to escape by jumping into water in the Temple District. I was like "wtf is he doing" then he tried to cut my view angle by hiding behind the corners in the water. He was god damn v16 templar. For 1-2 minutes i tried to understand what the heck was he doing i thought he has like 3k tv stones or something. But sadly only had around 90. I dont know when and why people become like this.

Paradox

Icky wrote: »

Sounds like all the no skill players that relied on OP abilities are crying and quitting the game. This is awesome!

Yeah, large portions of the population leaving due to the developers botching a content release is awesome. You're right.

Enjoy your dead game. They're taking it further and further down the drain every patch.

Asmael

Ganj wrote: »

Just go to one of those farming areas next to their bases just show yourself if there is one enemy he will try to escape no matter what. Its not even matter who you are or how good you are anymore If they arent more than 3-4 people they will run most likely. On the other hand if they more than 7-8 player then welcome steel tornados or other stupid aoe abilities perfect for spam.

Yesterday ive seen a dude attacked me and efter that tried to escape by jumping into water in the Temple District. I was like "wtf is he doing" then he tried to cut my view angle by hiding behind the corners in the water. He was god damn v16 templar. For 1-2 minutes i tried to understand what the heck was he doing i thought he has like 3k tv stones or something. But sadly only had around 90. I dont know when and why people become like this.

A V16 on his horse saw my stam DK that was level 20 or so at the time.

He turned back and fled faster than if he had an entire zerg chasing him. What the hell.

Kupoking

Paradox wrote: »

Icky wrote: »

Sounds like all the no skill players that relied on OP abilities are crying and quitting the game. This is awesome!

Yeah, large portions of the population leaving due to the developers botching a content release is awesome. You're right.

Enjoy your dead game. They're taking it further and further down the drain every patch.

I guess you have the numbers of people who left to enlighten us. Perhaps its an impression because you only play with ppl who cant adapt to the new meta.

revonine

Asmael wrote: »

Ganj wrote: »

Just go to one of those farming areas next to their bases just show yourself if there is one enemy he will try to escape no matter what. Its not even matter who you are or how good you are anymore If they arent more than 3-4 people they will run most likely. On the other hand if they more than 7-8 player then welcome steel tornados or other stupid aoe abilities perfect for spam.

Yesterday ive seen a dude attacked me and efter that tried to escape by jumping into water in the Temple District. I was like "wtf is he doing" then he tried to cut my view angle by hiding behind the corners in the water. He was god damn v16 templar. For 1-2 minutes i tried to understand what the heck was he doing i thought he has like 3k tv stones or something. But sadly only had around 90. I dont know when and why people become like this.

A V16 on his horse saw my stam DK that was level 20 or so at the time.

He turned back and fled faster than if he had an entire zerg chasing him. What the hell.

Yeah what the hell? TV stones have turned people into cowards. Leading some stragglers away from the main groups into fights for some 1V1's or small 1vX's doesn't work either because they either stick to the group like glue or turn tail and run back to Daddy Crown for protection the instant I launch an attack

Icky wrote: »

Sounds like all the no skill players that relied on OP abilities are crying and quitting the game. This is awesome!

Speak for yourself I'ma adjusting fine to the new meta it doesn't mean I'm not allowed miss the old one :S

Ganj

revonine wrote: »

TV stones have turned people into cowards.

That might be true but it could take hours to get some stones by farming only. I dont understand ive never farmed not even once and after i spent nearly 30k to my gear i got 70k telvar stones left just by looting from other people. I dont know how much they gain from a mob when they are in a group but usually i take only a few stones if i kill the mob by myself. So basically its really nothing.

ToRelax

Is that old PvP the one in that Surge, Negate Magic and Bolt Escape were considered the class defining Sorc skills? x)

phaseadept

@Ganj

Cyrodiil PvP is boring currently. You either outnumber people or they outnumber you. No real battles. Whomever put 50 players in Cyrodiil proper owns the map until someone else does.

olsborg

Shields should have remained what they where prepatch, and just remove shieldstacking, so you could only have one shield active at any one time. I can see that this patch would hurt nightblades or other builds who actually only used healing ward. Shame to see you go @alakmir you where fun to fight and fun to theorycraft with.

olsborg

And yes, you rarely see fewer then 4 ppl grouping now, because everyone is afraid to loose their telvar they group 10-20+ ppl and just spam aoe in fear, pvp is certainly not what it used to be. Zergblobfestofspamandboredom.

Minno

Reeko wrote: »

HoTs have taken the place of sheilds. I now use Rapid Regen instead of healing ward. Respecced my bastion points into quick recovery. It is not hard to adapt and is actually fun for me!

HOTs are our new gods.
Embrace them, use them and get vr15-16 gear.