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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Now that streak has been nerfed to oblivion...

  • Soulac
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    I don't remember a Magicka Nightblade with Concealed, vamp, speed buff and cloak being faster than a medium armor user sprinting.
    If that's the case, do something about it.

    Imagine an Emperor Sorc getting the scroll.. I think he can port a bit more often than the normal sorc, can't he?
    Streak could also be used to reach places no one else can, making the the scroll carrier unreachable.
    How should anyone abuse that? You got a full hour, I don't expect a full raid waiting for the sorc t come down.

    Also the main effect of cloak isn't working if you carry the scroll, so why should the main effect of streak work?
    Yes, I get that the thing is about the movement speed overall, but as said I don't recall Magicka NBs being the fastest in cyrodiil.
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  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Personally I don't know why nb ' are able to cloak with the scroll. I'd rather see this removed then streak added. Streak is a little different to cloak. It stuns those around you and those you pass through and instantly relocates your char. Cloak has little impact when scroll running other than to boost speed.

    With all ctf games the core mechanic should be that the enemy team should be able to catch the flag carrier if they prioritise this over damage imo

    I'd even say give the defending faction a temporary speed boost of 20% when their scroll is being run which is lost like rapids when you hit someone.
    Edited by Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO on 22 September 2015 09:57
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  • Maulkin
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Imagine an Emperor Sorc getting the scroll.. I think he can port a bit more often than the normal sorc, can't he?

    Only a bit more since the stack is 50% on Streak. And how is that different from the argument about a stamina carrier and sprint, or a magicka NB and cloak?
    Soulac wrote: »
    Streak could also be used to reach places no one else can, making the the scroll carrier unreachable.
    How should anyone abuse that? You got a full hour, I don't expect a full raid waiting for the sorc t come down.

    Is that vastly different from taking a scroll into an un-siegable house and farming at the door? And ofc, if the scroll carrying sorc can get there, all the Sorcs from the opposing faction can get there too :trollface:
    Soulac wrote: »
    Also the main effect of cloak isn't working if you carry the scroll, so why should the main effect of streak work?

    The secondary effect of Bolt doesn't work either. I can't do AoE damage or place a Ball of Lightning can I? I can't use the skill at all. While you still get a speed buff and a purge.
    Edited by Maulkin on 22 September 2015 10:26
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  • Nijjion
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    If sorcs drop scroll once they port the same should be done with stealth.

    Only fair.

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    It is vastly different as anyone can go into an un-siegable house... while only sorcs can get onto some rooftops with streak. Common sense really aint that? Other classes can't get up there... It's supposed to be a game of equality where everyone can do everything pretty much. This breaks that concept.
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  • Maulkin
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    Nijjion wrote: »
    If sorcs drop scroll once they port the same should be done with stealth.

    Only fair.

    @Mike.gaziotisbsjdad

    It is vastly different as anyone can go into an un-siegable house... while only sorcs can get onto some rooftops with streak. Common sense really aint that? Other classes can't get up there... It's supposed to be a game of equality where everyone can do everything pretty much. This breaks that concept.

    Yeah I have to concede that I guess
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  • Gilvoth
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    Streaks been nerfed? Still seeing pleanty of Sorcs streaking every where and using it to run away with.

    my thoughts exactly.
    streak with stun should not exist in eso.
    Edited by Gilvoth on 22 September 2015 12:09
  • Jitterbug
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    Garion wrote: »
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    Garion wrote: »
    Now we can't streak endlessly, we should be able to carry scrolls and streak.
    Are you trolling?

    Well.. why should NBs be able to use cloak (for extra speed) and sorcs shouldn't be able to use streak? Doesn't make sense to me tbh..

    Since when does cloak add speed? You people is craaaazeee

    Since concealed weapon

    Errr... No, concealed weapon always added speed and is stealth based not cloak based. Also sets like nights silence and the vamp passive are also not cloak based. NBs being able to move at normal running speed that any player can achieve while carrying a scroll is an odd complaint, and as you can't stealth while scroll running than all those points are irrelevant.

    Sounds like yet anothe 'the bad NB would not stand still while I hit them with my epic hammer of doom' threads - sadly, as proved by the state of roll dodge post nerf, the devs do love to give in to this type of complaint while leaving certain other really broken skills alone.

    Err, it has nothing to do with nerfing NBs, I just want to be able to streak while carrying a scroll. You NBs sure are sensitive! You can run insanely fast as an NB (magicka or stamina). Why should I not be able to streak?

    I can't run any faster than a player of any other class, as far as I know, while carrying a scroll.

    And if the 10,000 other 'nerf NBs' threads have made us a little sensitive then is that really a shock.

    Well NBs seem to be the favourite child of this game, so I guess I do understand why you would want to defend that :).
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  • templesus
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    Not nerfed, fixed. Was meant to be a gap closer.
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