Will we have to carry Tel Var Stones with us at all times, or will we be able to deposit them in our bank? If we can't deposit them, will we lose ALL of our stones when defeated in PVP, or only a set amount?
I'm terrible at PVP, but I understand how this system is desirable for many who do enjoy PVP. I just hope this doesn't become an incentive for griefing.
Of course it doesn't, Orsinium was always advertised as a separate DLC.Desolationz wrote: »So this DLC pack doesn't include Orsinium/High Wrothgar???
I play on both EU and NA will I have to buy the DLC twice if I quit my ESO+ membership?
When will we get info about sets and PTS will start?
I play on both EU and NA will I have to buy the DLC twice if I quit my ESO+ membership?
@ZOS_GinaBruno I would really like an answer please?
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »You will be able to deposit Tel Var Stones in the bank.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Desolationz wrote: »So wait, this DLC pack doesn't include Orsinium/High Wrothgar?
Way to go, ZOS. Introduce a new currency for all the new stuff, making what we have right now completely worthless and then make it attainable in PK environment with the risk to lose it.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Will we have to carry Tel Var Stones with us at all times, or will we be able to deposit them in our bank? If we can't deposit them, will we lose ALL of our stones when defeated in PVP, or only a set amount?
I'm terrible at PVP, but I understand how this system is desirable for many who do enjoy PVP. I just hope this doesn't become an incentive for griefing.
You will be able to deposit Tel Var Stones in the bank.
Hoodster92_ESO wrote: »SorataArisugawa wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Paying for content updates that you would otherwise get for free in a sub model... Gaming industry is going down the drain.
It is your choice, pay nothing for 5 month and than pay the equal as 1,5 month for an DLC and play free for the next time again. Or pay the whole 5 month for the same "DLC". I don't understand the problem here...
The problem is that this content was already payed for prior to the Crown Stores Arival through the Subcsriptions the earlier players had to pay. It's not about the system now, its the fact that this content is "essentially" grouped with the system that was before aka that this content should have been no DLC.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Will we have to carry Tel Var Stones with us at all times, or will we be able to deposit them in our bank? If we can't deposit them, will we lose ALL of our stones when defeated in PVP, or only a set amount?
I'm terrible at PVP, but I understand how this system is desirable for many who do enjoy PVP. I just hope this doesn't become an incentive for griefing.
You will be able to deposit Tel Var Stones in the bank.
Will I be able to mail them?
1. Kill monsters
2. collect stones
3. mail stones to friends
4. profit
Way to go, ZOS. Introduce a new currency for all the new stuff, making what we have right now completely worthless and then make it attainable in PK environment with the risk to lose it.
Sounds perfect to me.
No game since D2 had its PK fun, we may see a new contender with eso... herbivores this days.
cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »The DLC was part of the subscription costs, and that hasn't changed. If you subscribe you still get the DLC. If you don't subscribe... you have to pay for. That's always been how it worked, and nothing changed for that.cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »Locked threads are cool. Thanks for not letting concerned players discuss how they view ZOS move to make this a payed DLC that was promised and already payed for pre BTP. As a PC player I really appreciated paying for console launch and being told I have to pay a for IC as well (NOT).
Most be a console player or someone that doesn't understand the value of money or has everything payed for them by their mother. I personally already spent hundreds of dollars of my money for this content specifically expecting it to be in the next major update over and over. Maybe you can understand my frustration in their decision here to make the PC players pay for something that has been payed for 10 times over. Then we are told hey guess what, we are going BTP and all the money you spent expecting this promised content is just used on a console launch, then being told you have to pay for said content again. Wtf. Are you really so blind to see where PC gamers are coming from on this.? I mean seriously.
Hoodster92_ESO wrote: »SorataArisugawa wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Paying for content updates that you would otherwise get for free in a sub model... Gaming industry is going down the drain.
It is your choice, pay nothing for 5 month and than pay the equal as 1,5 month for an DLC and play free for the next time again. Or pay the whole 5 month for the same "DLC". I don't understand the problem here...
The problem is that this content was already payed for prior to the Crown Stores Arival through the Subcsriptions the earlier players had to pay. It's not about the system now, its the fact that this content is "essentially" grouped with the system that was before aka that this content should have been no DLC.
That doesn't even make sense. Yes, the Imperial City was revealed prior to the Crown Store's arrival but for all intents and purposes, it isn't part of the base game. If it was to be, B2P and console launch would've been held off until this was ready.
You could also think about it this way... when the Imperial City was revealed, the game was still a subscription based game. However, since then, payment models have changed and the game has launched on consoles. Economic factors have changed and they have responded accordingly.
The Imperial City clearly was part of ESO's original sales proposition of 'pay subscription for regular new content'. After a year of paying a subscription fee, none of this promised content has arrived to PvP.Hoodster92_ESO wrote: »SorataArisugawa wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Paying for content updates that you would otherwise get for free in a sub model... Gaming industry is going down the drain.
It is your choice, pay nothing for 5 month and than pay the equal as 1,5 month for an DLC and play free for the next time again. Or pay the whole 5 month for the same "DLC". I don't understand the problem here...
The problem is that this content was already payed for prior to the Crown Stores Arival through the Subcsriptions the earlier players had to pay. It's not about the system now, its the fact that this content is "essentially" grouped with the system that was before aka that this content should have been no DLC.
That doesn't even make sense. Yes, the Imperial City was revealed prior to the Crown Store's arrival but for all intents and purposes, it isn't part of the base game. If it was to be, B2P and console launch would've been held off until this was ready.
You could also think about it this way... when the Imperial City was revealed, the game was still a subscription based game. However, since then, payment models have changed and the game has launched on consoles. Economic factors have changed and they have responded accordingly.
Hoodster92_ESO wrote: »Hoodster92_ESO wrote: »SorataArisugawa wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Paying for content updates that you would otherwise get for free in a sub model... Gaming industry is going down the drain.
It is your choice, pay nothing for 5 month and than pay the equal as 1,5 month for an DLC and play free for the next time again. Or pay the whole 5 month for the same "DLC". I don't understand the problem here...
The problem is that this content was already payed for prior to the Crown Stores Arival through the Subcsriptions the earlier players had to pay. It's not about the system now, its the fact that this content is "essentially" grouped with the system that was before aka that this content should have been no DLC.
That doesn't even make sense. Yes, the Imperial City was revealed prior to the Crown Store's arrival but for all intents and purposes, it isn't part of the base game. If it was to be, B2P and console launch would've been held off until this was ready.
You could also think about it this way... when the Imperial City was revealed, the game was still a subscription based game. However, since then, payment models have changed and the game has launched on consoles. Economic factors have changed and they have responded accordingly.
The console has nothing to do with the subscription money from the PC players, if any of the PC players money is going into the consoles foundation then that is a problem by itself. Two separate entities should pay for themselves by the company.
And yes it makes total sense, the content was already made PRIOR to B2P, they even showed videos of it during the announcement. During that time they have been working on it through the subscription based model AND the B2P model. So really they should have the funding already done. The fact that they are adding a 20 dollar DLC on it now is because of their game tanking, they went free to play because the game wasn't popular enough / making enough money. So now they used prior subscriptions to salvage their game for what it is, and make players pay again for the content they were charging you for previously.
Hoodster92_ESO wrote: »@Attorneyatlawl @andrantos
The issue is not with the current model it is with the content that is being released.
The content announcement was announced under the old model, hence having the mindset that your monthly $15 dollars was going towards that content which is the norm for subscription based games. They didn't go with the Crown Store system until months after the announcement of the Imperial City.
Now what happened to that Subscription money prior too 1.6?
The last addition to ESO was around 10 - 15 - 2014, the Crown Store Released in Jan of 2015. So what content were subscribers paying for between that period? Fixing their Bugs? Not how games work you pay for the content and then the developers maintain and fix that content for the player (look at other buy once play forever games, they make you pay and then they maintain the game for you). So for roughly 2 - 3 months no new content came out of ESO which is total to 30 - 45 dollars that should be going to new content aka the Imperial City.
What I am simply trying to say is that due to the transition period and the fact that the content was released under a normal subscription model means that those people who payed the subscription prior and decided to not pay it now are getting shafted for their previous investments, now having to pay more.
I by no means am complaining about the current model, I like it, however DLC's shouldn't be attached to something that was announced under the old model.