Bad news for Stam Sorc

Yolokin_Swagonborn

There are major intrinsic issues with stam sorcerer that wont be fixed by changing one ability. The issue has to do with direct stamina DPS and stamina support utilities.

A good stamina build uses stamina for DPS and Magicka for utility. If you look at the best NB, Templar and DK stam builds they all follow that model.

Also, all other classes have some sort of utility (repentence, blur, GDB) that supports or returns stamina. Sorc lacks this. Also every class has at least one direct Stam based DPS skill. Sorcs lack this too.

So I agree with @cozmon3c_ESO about the need for a instant, non-projectile, melee range stam DPS skill (I think it should be a non-CC small cone AOE (like bombard bow skill) that is an armor debuff). Lightning form is not enough. Here's why.


Lightning form used to be utility. Unless they immensely increased the DPS, it should still be considered a utility and cost magicka.

Unlike the previous poster, I don't think bolt escape should have a stam morph. It is a UTILITY. Stam builds should use magicka for utility. With the new cost increase, bolt escape wont be worth slotting for stam sorc, unless they take my suggestion below...

But, there is the one change they could make that would really help the stam sorc and keep the balance.

Streak Morph of Bolt Escape:

- Attacking a target with a MELEE attack removes the cooldown (50% stacking cost) timer.

• This would make bolt escape usable for stamina sorcs.
• It would also allow stam sorcs to use the ability they way they actually want to use it, for gap closing and to STAY IN THE FIGHT with superior positioning - Not to run away.
• As soon as you run away and cast a second BE without a melee attack in between, the cost increases

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Also Expert Mage Passive

- If magica pool > stam pool, increase spell dmg (current state)
- BUT if stam pool > magicka pool Reduce cost of all Sorcerer magicka abilities by 10%


I don't have the time to lobby for this, but can someone pick up the cause for me? I would love to return to the game and see stamina sorc thriving for once.

cozmon3c_ESO

Stam sorcs are not aloud to thrive apparently, or even compete.

Derra

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

you know that one of the morphs for this will be based off of stamina now right? allowing sorcs to utilize t more frequently when stamina based.

You know a Stam Sorc is Useless without mobility right, well guess what, the stam morph ability DOESNT GIVE A SPEED INCREASE Good F'ing GAME! if its not known that Eric Wrobel doesnt PVP at all out side of hits BOTs pvp game, its clearly shows.

Is it sure that the stamina morph will be thundering presence then?

bowmanz607

no no one knows yet. i dont think they would be dumb enough not to make the speed one stamina. especially cause magicka already has a get away with bolt escape

Also, something I will never understand...YOU ARE A SORCERER!!! an inherently magical being. "a person who claims or is believed to have magic powers; a wizard." it seems appropriate that they are a heavily magicka based class.

Snit

Both morphs of Lightning Form need the speed boost. It'll be critical for stamina sorcs, and also important to magicka sorcs once BE is nerfed. Again.

TheElementalPlatypus

A wise man once told me, ZOS makes changes as if they simply watch the game.

That was wrong, they dont play or watch their game.

This thread was perfect in pointing out just how GOOD of a game this COULDVE BEEN.

You said it yourself, they wanted to make something viable, so they generally nerfed that entire section and made it useless.

Zeni pls

ToRelax

Snit wrote: »

Both morphs of Lightning Form need the speed boost. It'll be critical for stamina sorcs, and also important to magicka sorcs once BE is nerfed. Again.

Actually it'd be better for both if Boundless Storm wasn't changed.
Stam Sorc has problems with stamina, not magicka...