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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Nerfing block in this high-burst game - are you kidding me?

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Are you deliberately trying to destroy PvP @ZoS ?
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  • CMG138
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    They must have been trolling.
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  • Garion
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    Baphomet wrote: »
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    Are you deliberately trying to destroy PvP @ZoS ?

    I think that's the plan, that way they don't have to bother pretending they care any more. They are already doing a poor job of maintaining the illusion they care about PvP in this game - today the illusion ended!
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Dude block was OP against everyone but NB with fear.
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  • Kobaal
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    Dude block was OP against everyone but NB with fear.

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    Edited by Kobaal on 2 July 2015 22:42
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  • ThatHappyCat
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    Once again, the tunnel vision is strong here.

    I may be wrong but I think the whole point of halving all damage in PvP is to address the high burst issue. Just a thought.
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  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    Kas wrote: »
    Hottest 1st of April in Germany, ever! 35°C is crazy for that time of the year...

    Had to google the equivalent in Fahrenheit to even know what 35C is lol.
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  • Glory
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    People seem to be selectively hearing. They're lowering damage output by 50% and making you be skillful to use block, not making it impossible to use it as people are acting.
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  • ToRelax
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    I won't even try to argue anymore, they basically took the major issues in PvP and chose the worst options available. What can you do about such utter incompetence...
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  • trimsic_ESO
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    So I'm a sorc. No change to the shield stacking meta; 50% less damage received; magicka regen still working while blocking. Call me God :smile: lol.
  • Cinbri
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    First time since release it is nice to be a templar as most of it's dd abilities are channeled where block didn't helped much. :D
  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    Had to google the equivalent in Fahrenheit to even know what 35C is lol.

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  • iseko
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    Yea its bs... Heavy armor is still pretty bad. The only good thing was the block cost reduction. With damaged halfed and block nerfed... Heavy armor just went down the toilet again.

    Combined with the 50% dmg reduction... Might as well dump your templar kill quests now. Aint noone gonna play that class anymore.
    Edited by iseko on 3 July 2015 10:06
  • Alcast
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    Had to google the equivalent in Fahrenheit to even know what 35C is lol.

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    Had to google the equivalent in Fahrenheit to even know what 35C is lol.

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    Had to google the equivalent in Fahrenheit to even know what 35C is lol.

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    OH YEAH! You foreigners think your so cool, but the orange part of that map is also the only area to put men on the moon! AMERICA! *** YEAH!

    <equips his tinfoil hat> that will be proven only when chinese step a foot on the moon to varify this actually in a few years ;)
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  • Zsymon
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    Dodging will be nerfed, blocking will be nerfed, made practically useless, this means the only way to defend yourself in combat soon, is through damage shields, which only Sorcerers are effective at.

    Along with the nerf to Nirnhoned, means Sorcerers will be by far the most powerful class.
    Edited by Zsymon on 3 July 2015 18:37
  • NotSo
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    Tanks should be able to survive longer than other playstyles. Not survive forever. That should have never been the case.
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  • Zsymon
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    It makes no sense though to nerf dodging and blocking but keeping shield stacking intact, especially since shield stacking is a lot more powerful than either dodging or blocking.
    Edited by Zsymon on 3 July 2015 18:42
  • PeggymoeXD
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    I really hope these changes don't immediately go live. We have the PTS for a reason ZOS, allow us to test these changes before they go live, we all hate them, but are stuck with them for another year because that's how often stuff changes now.
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  • TheBull
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    30% Reduced damage. What are ya'll crying about?
  • ToRelax
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    TheBull wrote: »
    30% Reduced damage. What are ya'll crying about?

    That it's a poor band aid fix that covers up one symptom and creates another problem.
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  • Cyantific87
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    Troll thread.. Obviously.

    The best change is this balancing of heavy armour wearers so they don't have to just stand there holding block and killing 10 guys around them while always holding the same button...
  • leepalmer95
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    ads1 wrote: »
    Troll thread.. Obviously.

    The best change is this balancing of heavy armour wearers so they don't have to just stand there holding block and killing 10 guys around them while always holding the same button...

    there are better ways to directly change these. Nerfing block overall which then affects all classes, espically stamina based ones and even affectng pve, it's not the way.
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  • jrkhan
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    Zsymon wrote: »
    It makes no sense though to nerf dodging and blocking but keeping shield stacking intact, especially since shield stacking is a lot more powerful than either dodging or blocking.

    Did you not notice '50% reduction to damage shields' on the battle spirit buff?
  • Lorkhan
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    yes, nerf block please!
    this blockcasting meta is ridiculous
  • Cathexis
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    Lol they are nerfing everything that is defensive and then slapping on a 50% damage redux.

    I bet all the devs are playing snipe macro night blades.


    IMO would have been better the other way around -- they should make blocking mitigate all damage, remove block casting, allow stuns and knockdown/backs to go through block, and remove the cost of sprint, roll dodge, and block and leave things at high damage burst (except fire ballista's that *** a joke)

    Combat would be way, way more interesting.
    Edited by Cathexis on 6 July 2015 21:25
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  • Master_Kas
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    jrkhan wrote: »
    Zsymon wrote: »
    It makes no sense though to nerf dodging and blocking but keeping shield stacking intact, especially since shield stacking is a lot more powerful than either dodging or blocking.

    Did you not notice '50% reduction to damage shields' on the battle spirit buff?

    Its 15% reduced in cyro atm so they nerfed them by 35%.
    + 30% reduced damage to compensate (from 20% now in cyro)

    You can still spam the shield with no cost increase/ mana regen penalty like dodgeroll and block will have.
    Shieldspamming will be the best active way to migate damage.
    Except maybe cloak but it breaks from AOE.
    Edited by Master_Kas on 7 July 2015 00:06
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  • Domander
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    jrkhan wrote: »
    Zsymon wrote: »
    It makes no sense though to nerf dodging and blocking but keeping shield stacking intact, especially since shield stacking is a lot more powerful than either dodging or blocking.

    Did you not notice '50% reduction to damage shields' on the battle spirit buff?

    Its 15% reduced in cyro atm so they nerfed them by 35%.
    + 30% reduced damage to compensate (from 20% now in cyro)

    You can still spam the shield with no cost increase/ mana regen penalty like dodgeroll and block will have.
    Shieldspamming will be the best active way to migate damage.
    Except maybe cloak but it breaks from AOE.

    Players already run around with shields up, because it will stop them from being instagibbed. These changes might allow some of the slower regen heals to actually do something.
  • Master_Kas
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    Domander wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    jrkhan wrote: »
    Zsymon wrote: »
    It makes no sense though to nerf dodging and blocking but keeping shield stacking intact, especially since shield stacking is a lot more powerful than either dodging or blocking.

    Did you not notice '50% reduction to damage shields' on the battle spirit buff?

    Its 15% reduced in cyro atm so they nerfed them by 35%.
    + 30% reduced damage to compensate (from 20% now in cyro)

    You can still spam the shield with no cost increase/ mana regen penalty like dodgeroll and block will have.
    Shieldspamming will be the best active way to migate damage.
    Except maybe cloak but it breaks from AOE.

    Players already run around with shields up, because it will stop them from being instagibbed. These changes might allow some of the slower regen heals to actually do something.

    I was just correcting him since he missed that shields already have a 15% nerf in cyro.
    What you said I however dont have anything to say against, as it is true :P
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