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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

15 GB Patch on PS4

  • hellcatlizzieb16_ESO
    The pause thing works, did it about ten times and it went down to a hour. After about half a hour it jumped back to 21hrs. Did the pause thing again and now got 25 min to go.
  • turbonights
    The pause/unpause thing must be done often until you land a good queue. I probably did it around 50 times. Now I've moved from 3.xxxGB to 9.420GB with 17 minutes left. Keep trying, don't just do a few and stop thinking you're the lucky one it'll work the first few times on.
  • IWGYK
    IWGYK
    Soul Shriven
    I did the pause/unpause thing and now I have 12/13 hours download instead of the 8 hours I had originally...

    Keep trying bud, it took me quite a while but eventually it held at regular speeds. Best of luck friend.
  • Darkrosesus
    Darkrosesus
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    Mine's only 4 hours and it's got 20 mins left ... I've now fallen behind with my weapon & armour research. d'oh!

    Hopefully the game play will be less buggy for a while now anyway.
  • Anguished
    Anguished
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    Tried an hour later.
    it's going to take 96 hours now.
    No thank you.

    Idk if this is Sony or Zeni. But this could ruin gaming for me.
  • rwilson1982
    rwilson1982
    Soul Shriven
    I bought the game this week and had to download 15GB before I could play it. I come on today and find there is another 15GB patch. So I'm downloading what is probably the same thing twice in less than a week. I have spent more time downloading patches than I have actually playing the game.

    My download speed has ground to < 512 Kbps and projecting 33h to complete.

    The announcement has the audacity to say its an 'incremental' patch.

    [snip] isn't the word.

    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:45
  • Tre_775
    Tre_775
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    FMarin83 wrote: »
    Is this the norm for a patch to fix bugs? Finally the servers come up and now i have to wait 9 hours.

    Most patches are server side and occur during regular maintenance. A 15 gig client side patch wouldn't be unheard of this early into a game, but I wouldn't expect it too frequently. Posters also need to understand that there's a lot if data (such as new code for background functions) in a patch that isn't necessarily going to be outlined in the patch notes. For all intents and purposes, it's likely that we're getting a full revision of the game client to address issues that weren't possible to repair with only a few slight code changes to the original. Old files will be overwritten, so this patch won't necessarily take up an extra 15 gigs of space on your HDD. Not directed at you OP but FFS people complain about bugs and then they complain when the bug fix is too large.

    My total download time was ~2.5 hours. If I can predict anything it's that you'll be in the game soon.
    Edited by Tre_775 on 24 June 2015 20:06
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  • Crazyfool768
    Crazyfool768
    Soul Shriven
    Tre_775 wrote: »
    FMarin83 wrote: »
    Is this the norm for a patch to fix bugs? Finally the servers come up and now i have to wait 9 hours.

    Most patches are server side and occur during regular maintenance. A 15 gig client side patch wouldn't be unheard of this early into a game, but I wouldn't expect it too frequently. Posters also need to understand that there's a lot if data (such as new code for background functions) in a patch that isn't necessarily going to be outlined in the patch notes. Not directed at you OP but FFS people complain about bugs and then they complain when the bug fix is too large.

    My total download time was ~2.5 hours. If I can predict anything it's that you'll be in the game soon.

    Been trying since 3pm it's now 9pm....

    thought pause and unpause has pulled the time right down from 36hrs too 107 mins
  • pattak
    pattak
    Patches are good because they fix or add things to improve the game. I would hate for them to leave the game with no improvements. The ones complaining just want to play right now. There are other games with bugs like the shooter game that rakes in millions without a fix for netcode error for over a year. That's torture
  • Diashie
    Diashie
    Reminds me of the days of SWG.

    Yes, downloading of the patch we did on day one is frustrating, but if the latest patch does deal with the issues stated then I can overlook the error they made this once. However they better not make the same mistake again because it really looks bad.
  • floormat
    floormat
    Soul Shriven
    Just keep pausing/un-pausing. It should work. I'm at 10gb downloaded now. Do it until you see it say under 100 minutes to go. It will stay like that for 20 or so minutes. Then it will steadily get slow to hours left. But do pause and un pause again until it gets back to the faster dl speed. I've had to do it 3 times now but it's working again.
  • GodlessMimicry
    So still haven't gotten the extras we paid for, and now after 5 hr maintenance we also have a few hours to download this, and then 5 hrs tomorrow where the login servers will be down. What on earth are we paying for exactly? What a joke.
  • floormat
    floormat
    Soul Shriven
    The maintenance tomorrow deals with the login servers so if you are logged in before it scheduled to go down then you can still play.
  • Mitchblue
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    pattak wrote: »
    Patches are good because they fix or add things to improve the game. I would hate for them to leave the game with no improvements. The ones complaining just want to play right now. There are other games with bugs like the shooter game that rakes in millions without a fix for netcode error for over a year. That's torture

    It's not about the patch itself because what they fixed was 1/2 gig worth. Xbox can attest to that..it's just that we had to dl this patch plus the previous patches we already had.
    Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?
  • salzoris
    salzoris
    Still not logged in 6 hours of trying and still only half way downloaded guess my dailys won't be getting done today. Games average customer service is diabolical. Was hoping this was a great game
  • anderson7661_ESO
    anderson7661_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    ZOS - most everyone has realized that the reason the patch is 15 gigs is not because of fixed content, but because you were too lazy to figure out how to patch a game on the PS4 system. But instead of taking responsibility for your laziness and mistake, you decided to make a half-hearted apology that does not even address the issue.

    I'm sure that many of us would respect you a little bit more if you actually owned up to your mistake, rather than giving us an "Oh, well we'll try to make this not happen in the future (teehee!)"

    A little bit of humility can go a long way. Because right now, most everyone here is seriously doubting the intelligence of those of you who actually allowed this "patch" to be the size it is. Even though it's not even a patch, since the majority of it is fixing nothing new. I am now unsubbing from ESO+ because the amount I pay a month on your game will now be going towards overcharge fees for my data limit. I don't want that, but I think I would rather not pay for your service, since you're the sole reason I'm having to unsub and pay for my over-capped data in the first place. I'm sure you don't want that, either.

    There is no reason for this. Own up, put on your big boy and big girl panties, and address the actual issue here.
    Edited by anderson7661_ESO on 24 June 2015 20:36
  • pattak
    pattak
    Any game company would hate to release a patch of this size but they are professionals paid to improve the game. If they can release a patch that is 1 GB only I would think they would. Gina posted an apology for the inconvenience with the size of this patch in the main section for everyone to read. I myself did not notice until I looked at other threads it was easy to miss because I have a habit of just jumping to the general section. With that said I think they need to communicate with us better by posting more often that they are aware of the issues but like myself we need to be patient because I believe good things will come with patches despite frustration.
  • RadicalSpirit
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    Is there some kind of bottleneck on their end for this download or something?

    I download full 60gb games in usually 30 - 45 minutes, whereas this piece of *** update has taken 4 hours already and it's only at 9 gb downloaded.

    Is anyone else having such a nonsense wait time?

    No time on ESO for me at all Wednesday then, [snip]

    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:51
  • anderson7661_ESO
    anderson7661_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    pattak wrote: »
    Any game company would hate to release a patch of this size but they are professionals paid to improve the game. If they can release a patch that is 1 GB only I would think they would. Gina posted an apology for the inconvenience with the size of this patch in the main section for everyone to read. I myself did not notice until I looked at other threads it was easy to miss because I have a habit of just jumping to the general section. With that said I think they need to communicate with us better by posting more often that they are aware of the issues but like myself we need to be patient because I believe good things will come with patches despite frustration.


    I thought that at first too, giving them the benefit of the doubt. However, the fact is that the majority of the patch is changing nothing. The 15 gig 1st day patch is being forced upon us again, all because somebody decided to make this patch what Gina called in the apology "incremental" (which is not something to be proud of).

    It's not okay. Every other PS4 game developer has figured out how to patch their game without having to do it "incrementally". This is a waste of data and time, and it should not be overlooked. ZOS looks mighty incompetent at the moment, and they're trying really hard to make it look like this was unavoidable.
  • MdorKuy
    MdorKuy
    Hey guys. Just to follow up, we do understand that having to download such a large patch is frustrating and not ideal, and we want to let you know that we are actively working to ensure future ESOTU PS4 patches are not cumulative.

    Thank you for taking the time to respond to such a disheartening thread, Gina! Just remember that for every one person who complains that there are countless of us who appreciate you wading through the gutter talk and bought this game with the understanding that stuff like this is a necessity to ensure we have the most enjoyable experience possible.

    :)
  • pmn100b16_ESO
    pmn100b16_ESO
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    MdorKuy wrote: »
    Hey guys. Just to follow up, we do understand that having to download such a large patch is frustrating and not ideal, and we want to let you know that we are actively working to ensure future ESOTU PS4 patches are not cumulative.

    Thank you for taking the time to respond to such a disheartening thread, Gina! Just remember that for every one person who complains that there are countless of us who appreciate you wading through the gutter talk and bought this game with the understanding that stuff like this is a necessity to ensure we have the most enjoyable experience possible.

    :)

    Yes downloading 30x the size of the actual patches is a necessity to ensure we have the most enjoyable experience possible. Where do people like this come from? Under a bridge I guess.
  • TortUred_mAlice
    Ok, warrw... I started this update like 5 hours ago, set Playstation in Rest mode and checked back just now; 3.737GB / 15.851 (44 hours remaining).

    I knocked it a few times with the pause and managed to get it to as low as 8 hours (it was going very, very quick)

    Now it's shot back to... a few days. -___- It's not falling for the pausing card anymore, and I don't know about you but I think I'm going to enter a competition to see what overheats first, my router or the console.

    What even is this update exactly?
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  • Tre_775
    Tre_775
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    Some people never cease to amaze me. If you understand anything about client side patching, then you should realize that an additional 500 mb of occupied space on your HDD does not mean that only 500 mb of code was patched. You are downloading a revised game client. In the process of installing that client, old files are being overwritten but not re-named. It's highly likely that it was not possible to only make a few code changes to the original game client. Hence the revision. This isn't uncommon at all in a client side MMO patch, especially this early into a game. I have a feeling that if the download size was only 500 mb then people would be complaining here about how the patch wasn't addressing enough. It's always a no win situation for the company.
    "He was already insane before he left Tamriel. Mad as a box of frogs..."
    - Lyris Titanborn in reference to Sir Cadwell
  • TinuonGilornor
    TinuonGilornor
    Soul Shriven
    Large update, for a new release to console and first ever mmo I'd say there doing pretty Damn good, rough start though, in any case love the game, a little buggy but good, love the emotes and the fact they kept it original, no armor or weapon locks like some mmos. Hope this long update comes with some New stuff :)
    Edited by TinuonGilornor on 24 June 2015 21:19
  • sadownik
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    Large update, for a new release to console and first ever mom I'd say there doing pretty Damn good, rough start though, in any case love the game, a little buggy but good, love the emotes and the fact they kept it original, no armor or weapon locks like some mmos. Hope this long update comes with some New stuff :)

    You are kidding right? Patchnotes sre up for some time now.
  • Ichika
    Ichika
    Soul Shriven
    Ok, warrw... I started this update like 5 hours ago, set Playstation in Rest mode and checked back just now; 3.737GB / 15.851 (44 hours remaining).

    I knocked it a few times with the pause and managed to get it to as low as 8 hours (it was going very, very quick)

    Now it's shot back to... a few days. -___- It's not falling for the pausing card anymore, and I don't know about you but I think I'm going to enter a competition to see what overheats first, my router or the console.

    What even is this update exactly?

    If you are trying to reduce your download speed by pausing and unpausing, there is a more effective method to use. If you go to your network settings and do an internet connection test, this will disconnect your ps4 from the internet and reconnect it. Basically resetting the connection in your system, this should improve your download time remaining. However there is no miracle cure for just plain slow internet, good luck everyone.
  • anderson7661_ESO
    anderson7661_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    Tre_775 wrote: »
    Some people never cease to amaze me. If you understand anything about client side patching, then you should realize that an additional 500 mb of occupied space on your HDD does not mean that only 500 mb of code was patched. You are downloading a revised game client. In the process of installing that client, old files are being overwritten but not re-named. It's highly likely that it was not possible to only make a few code changes to the original game client. Hence the revision. This isn't uncommon at all in a client side MMO patch, especially this early into a game. I have a feeling that if the download size was only 500 mb then people would be complaining here about how the patch wasn't addressing enough. It's always a no win situation for the company.


    I would much rather this download actually be the 500mb one that the Xbone players received. And as far as I'm aware, there is no major difference in this patch between the PS4 and Xbone.
  • TortUred_mAlice
    So what you're saying, as time goes on we'll get something like:

    Update 3.0.0.1:

    Fixed a bug where a certain iron mining animations weren't synchronizing with character movements correctly.

    0.020 GB / 821.851 GB (2 Months)
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  • ScrewThePooch
    ScrewThePooch
    Soul Shriven
    This is the worst patch I've ever downloaded, what a pile of [snip]

    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:53
  • TortUred_mAlice
    Ichika wrote: »
    If you are trying to reduce your download speed by pausing and unpausing, there is a more effective method to use. If you go to your network settings and do an internet connection test...

    Yea, sadly I already know about this and have tried it (I always try this when I can't sign into PSN)

    Well at least in this traffic you can still use the restroom. :smiley:
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