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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

15 GB Patch on PS4

  • TheForgrim
    TheForgrim
    Soul Shriven
    TheForgrim wrote: »
    Yeeeeeaahhhhh! the pause/ restart is rolling again!!! 61 minutes left. Spread the word my brothers, reach out to the four corners of our great nation.. The age of the pause and restart is upon us! Do not say "it doesnt work" until you have done it about 50 times, eventually you will break the consoles spirit and it will do your bidding!


    Just saying again.. Typically, if you restart your PS4, and check the download, It'll have worked itself out to the point it eliminates the need to constantly pause/unpause to maintain efficient download speed.

    Oh yeah, sorry. I didnt mean to disregard what you were saying. Yeah thats what I thought as well, but my download literally got to a point where it was not moving at all. Most of the time if it says 8 hours you can guarantee it will only take like 3 or 4 or something but it did not seem to be moving at all. But you are right, if I were to be patient then it probably would have evened itself out anyway.

    Thank you for explaining that to me.

    No worries. All I was saying is that typically solves the need to actually pause/unpause the download over and over, as this has been an issue that's occurred before on PSN. Happened to me with this download also, even. What I was getting at though, is when a download is stalling or is erratic (bouncing between like 2HRs and 90HRs, for example), typically if you manually restart the PS4 through power options, It'll stabilize, and you won't need to keep going through the pause/unpause rotation.
  • deicide2673
    One of our guild members just finished the download and then told us all his characters are gone!
  • Slater_Reed
    Thank you zenimax for having me waiting for maintenance, and then having me download a 15 gb patch that should have been 500 mb, which iam still waiting for to download, and then expecting me to wait tomorrow AGAIN for maintenance from 1pm to 6pm my time, when i usually play. THANK YOU and what makes me even sadder is when my friend comes home from work later at 6 pm and he will need to download your 15gb patch ( which ill still be downloading) and he wont be able to play it today like he usually does, and he will most likely only be able to play tomorrow, that is if you dont include ANOTHER 15 gb patch, thank you! I know iam being a crybaby but i just cant take this kind of service, its unnaceptable, and iam angry, because i cannot play the game that i paid for at my free time when iam available to do what i want...
    I love when i get to download 15gb of worthless data just to get the 500mb patch, its just like waiting for the whole cake to be done when all you want is just the little cherry on the top, hmm Yumi!
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
    Community Manager
    Hey guys. Just to follow up, we do understand that having to download such a large patch is frustrating and not ideal, and we want to let you know that we are actively working to ensure future ESOTU PS4 patches are not cumulative.
    Gina Bruno
    Senior Creator Engagement Manager
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    Staff Post
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    If the patcher is anything like PC, the % is not a measure of time remaining, it is a measure of patching process remaining. So downloading 1 file may take 30 minutes, then unzipping it and applying it may take 10 seconds. But the download of 1 file may count as 5% of patch and the unzip into 9 files and apply them may count as 45% of patch. So you'll crawl along, then it will suddenly jump from 5% finished to 50% finished in a flash. Then crawl along from 50% to 55%, then leap from 55% to 95%, etc.
  • Mr.knott
    Mr.knott
    Just on the off chance this might help someone I figured I'd post what's worked for me. I have great Internet (fibre) and usually no issues on patches including the day one patch. I tried changing my dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and no change. I've tried the pause restart repeat until finger dies, no change. But then I changed my dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 THEN restarted my ps4 I then fired up eso and let it sit on the blue screen showing the download as oppose to watching it in the notification areas and now after so many previous attempt it's downloaded in just under 30 minutes. Hope this helps someone else!
  • Gizbyt
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    Thank you zenimax for having me waiting for maintenance, and then having me download a 15 gb patch that should have been 500 mb, which iam still waiting for to download, and then expecting me to wait tomorrow AGAIN for maintenance from 1pm to 6pm my time, when i usually play. THANK YOU and what makes me even sadder is when my friend comes home from work later at 6 pm and he will need to download your 15gb patch ( which ill still be downloading) and he wont be able to play it today like he usually does, and he will most likely only be able to play tomorrow, that is if you dont include ANOTHER 15 gb patch, thank you! I know iam being a crybaby but i just cant take this kind of service, its unnaceptable, and iam angry, because i cannot play the game that i paid for at my free time when iam available to do what i want...

    I'm still waiting for the explanation of WHY and this more information they keep saying they'll be posting..
  • TheForgrim
    TheForgrim
    Soul Shriven
    I assume It'd be abit eaiser to digest if many of these angry folks did indeed realize they are downloading what equates to patches 1.02, 1.03, and 1.04, along with various other fixes thrown in, from what I understand.
  • LoSnupo
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    I have no words.
    Well, i have some, but is better for me to [snip]

    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:26
  • samuraidoc
    samuraidoc
    Soul Shriven
    Haha. I should have just been happy with my 1Mb/s dl. Tried the pausing / restarting trick and got stuck in a 99+ hr loop. Had to restart my router to fix it. Back to 1Mb/s and leaving it there :p

    98 minutes to go people!!!
  • ravenbirgil
    ravenbirgil
    Soul Shriven
    Although I'm glad there fixing things. 15gb seems a bit much Esp after the severs have been down for so long. Long day at work to come home Robbins I can't relax on my game. Instead spend all night downloading a patch.
  • cabbagechest
    Witcher 3 is pretty awesome, so I'll just play that until I can get this beast of a patch downloaded.
  • Mr.knott
    Mr.knott
    Gizbyt wrote: »
    Thank you zenimax for having me waiting for maintenance, and then having me download a 15 gb patch that should have been 500 mb, which iam still waiting for to download, and then expecting me to wait tomorrow AGAIN for maintenance from 1pm to 6pm my time, when i usually play. THANK YOU and what makes me even sadder is when my friend comes home from work later at 6 pm and he will need to download your 15gb patch ( which ill still be downloading) and he wont be able to play it today like he usually does, and he will most likely only be able to play tomorrow, that is if you dont include ANOTHER 15 gb patch, thank you! I know iam being a crybaby but i just cant take this kind of service, its unnaceptable, and iam angry, because i cannot play the game that i paid for at my free time when iam available to do what i want...

    I'm still waiting for the explanation of WHY and this more information they keep saying they'll be posting..


    I'm pretty sure Gina just answered the question of why it's so large about 4 posts up, basically for whatever reason us ps4 users have had to download all prior patches (including the day one patch) in order to download the new 500mb one. It's a problem on there part and if I recall rightly it happened on pc a few times early on too. Hopefully as she says above in future they won't be cumulative and we will only need to download the new patches. I also don't believe this will eat up 15 gig of space for anyone complaining, it will overwrite the day one patch plus the new patch of whatever it is (500mb someone said)

  • ahost1_ESO
    Pman85 wrote: »
    some of you guys have some serious internet speed issues.

    Work for sky get 20mbps adsl connection for free, its not great but passable Didint expext to get another 16gb patch when they said incremental update

    besides i work in bb tech as my day job, its not always the persons fault they cant get good speed, especially rural areas and the line quality itself always play a factor aswell as the fact wireless speed is lower etc a lot of the time it isnt the persons fault or even the isp fault

    its not very fair to ask people to download another massive patch but say this was only incremental is my point, i woudnt mind if they had said ok this patch will be this big and all that before the maintenance and a lot of people would most likey be the same as it would give them a good idea of what they were dealing with im off work today and was looking forward to a quick patch n go like the days of WoW incrementals

    only upside is it means i'll just play guitar or boot up the ps2

    Wait.... Did you say DSL? DSL speeds can't even come close to cable speeds anymore. Expecially ADSL. If you're going to have DSL at least get XDSL. DSL technology is so bad. I know cause I've had ADSL before and if the download speed isn't bad enough, most of the time your upload is capped at 1.5 mbps.
  • Elsonso
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    Hey guys. Today’s PS4 patch size is 15.9GB because it also includes patches 01.01 – 01.03. We’ll be posting more information about this later today here on the forums.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno ... First, thanks for the "Playstation 4 Patch Size" thread at the top of the forum.

    However, I was sort of expecting a little bit more than that based on what you said above. :disappointed:
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  • KingOfSpades22
    KingOfSpades22
    Soul Shriven
    I bought this game on monday afternoon, adter a 15Gb update i finally got to play!.. on tuesday. now i couldn't play for almost 4 hours because of the maintenance just to find out that there is another 15Gb patch.

    Don't get me wrong, i like the fact that they are trying to improve the game, the problem is that the final patch was actually every patch combined. (i read that on gamefaq).

    i just hope that this patch will fix most of the problems so we will not have to go through this crap anytime soon.
    still loving this game so far. (from what i could actually see)
  • Gizbyt
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    TheForgrim wrote: »
    I assume It'd be abit eaiser to digest if many of these angry folks did indeed realize they are downloading what equates to patches 1.02, 1.03, and 1.04, along with various other fixes thrown in, from what I understand.

    Which is a terrible idea...it's the whole point of patches surely? Fix something, patch it. Rather then fix something, sit on it, fix more things, sit on it..release everything at once so it bottlenecks download bandwidth, people complain, get angry and rant and rave.

    Not everyone has stupidly insane fast internet speeds. Mines a 5meg line, so download speeds really isnt very fast at all.
  • floydmurphy.kg_ESO
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    Just traded my copy in at Gamestop. Wasn't the only one either today doing it. Purely anecdotal I know. This game is great, but practices like this aren't worth it for the console crowd. To those who stick it out, my hat goes off to you!

    LOL
    "There is panic in my fascination - Like soothing wine is my despair - Gracefully I fall to pieces"
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  • Mr.knott
    Mr.knott
    On the plus side I've heard they have virtually eliminated the lag in game... Which will be nice
  • Anguished
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    I called it two days after the game released.
    This game is still in beta
  • Centra87
    Centra87
    Soul Shriven
    I just wanted to add that I was disgusted by the day one 15GB patch but I was wiling to let it go. Now another patch nearly 16GB is plain ridiculous. I have relatively poor download speeds in my area and a usage limit so I'm not sure if Ill be playing any more...
  • Mr.knott
    Mr.knott
    Germal wrote: »
    Ak
    Anguished wrote: »
    LOL at the post at the top of the page. You say you want updates, yet you're "trading your game" because of the update download file. This isn't adding 15G to your console, it is OVERWRITING the previous update. Maybe you should do some reading to find that out. I'm rank 1 in my pvp server and have a blast every time I play. Lag is expected in any game that renders 200 characters on a screen. If you can't wait more than TWO WEEKS to fix a massive game, then we don't want to play with you anyways. BAIBAI!!

    [snip]

    [snip]


    [snip]

    I've played a lot of hours so far and haven't come across any 'game breaking' stuff. I've played the pc version since launch and I can tell you we have absolutely nothing to complain about in comparison. It's pretty clear zos have been focused on the consoles all along. I've enjoyed the game Far more on ps4 than pc, those guys have stuff to complain about....

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:30
  • Razgriz_2142
    Mr.knott wrote: »
    Gizbyt wrote: »
    Thank you zenimax for having me waiting for maintenance, and then having me download a 15 gb patch that should have been 500 mb, which iam still waiting for to download, and then expecting me to wait tomorrow AGAIN for maintenance from 1pm to 6pm my time, when i usually play. THANK YOU and what makes me even sadder is when my friend comes home from work later at 6 pm and he will need to download your 15gb patch ( which ill still be downloading) and he wont be able to play it today like he usually does, and he will most likely only be able to play tomorrow, that is if you dont include ANOTHER 15 gb patch, thank you! I know iam being a crybaby but i just cant take this kind of service, its unnaceptable, and iam angry, because i cannot play the game that i paid for at my free time when iam available to do what i want...

    I'm still waiting for the explanation of WHY and this more information they keep saying they'll be posting..


    I'm pretty sure Gina just answered the question of why it's so large about 4 posts up, basically for whatever reason us ps4 users have had to download all prior patches (including the day one patch) in order to download the new 500mb one. It's a problem on there part and if I recall rightly it happened on pc a few times early on too. Hopefully as she says above in future they won't be cumulative and we will only need to download the new patches. I also don't believe this will eat up 15 gig of space for anyone complaining, it will overwrite the day one patch plus the new patch of whatever it is (500mb someone said)
    Gta can patch incrementally on ps4, sure as hell eso can do it, do not see a good reason why they are unable to.

    I mean im downloading PS2 at the current mintute and its about the same size including all patching data and i'll be on it within the next hour.

    Zenimax have really dropped the ball big time today.Especially after such a rocky launch.
  • john.dale.gunningb16_ESO
    Hey guys. Just to follow up, we do understand that having to download such a large patch is frustrating and not ideal, and we want to let you know that we are actively working to ensure future ESOTU PS4 patches are not cumulative.

    Sorry but this is just not good enough, does this mean if we download this update now and you have a patch scheduled for during the week we again have to download this huge patch ? this is not only eats into peoples isp usage terms but essentially stops us playing from any where to a few hours to two days depending on our download speed. This is utter crap and it should be fixed today ! never in my life have i had to download this much crap for one small patch even entire expansions of other mmos arent this big even whole games arent this bloody big. So not only has this entire eso experience gone from being ripped off by not getting what i paid for and being ignored to being forced to re download hours upon hours of crap i already downloaded for a second time. Get your *** together or offer refunds this is not acceptable.
  • Mr.knott
    Mr.knott
    Mr.knott wrote: »
    Gizbyt wrote: »
    Thank you zenimax for having me waiting for maintenance, and then having me download a 15 gb patch that should have been 500 mb, which iam still waiting for to download, and then expecting me to wait tomorrow AGAIN for maintenance from 1pm to 6pm my time, when i usually play. THANK YOU and what makes me even sadder is when my friend comes home from work later at 6 pm and he will need to download your 15gb patch ( which ill still be downloading) and he wont be able to play it today like he usually does, and he will most likely only be able to play tomorrow, that is if you dont include ANOTHER 15 gb patch, thank you! I know iam being a crybaby but i just cant take this kind of service, its unnaceptable, and iam angry, because i cannot play the game that i paid for at my free time when iam available to do what i want...

    I'm still waiting for the explanation of WHY and this more information they keep saying they'll be posting..


    I'm pretty sure Gina just answered the question of why it's so large about 4 posts up, basically for whatever reason us ps4 users have had to download all prior patches (including the day one patch) in order to download the new 500mb one. It's a problem on there part and if I recall rightly it happened on pc a few times early on too. Hopefully as she says above in future they won't be cumulative and we will only need to download the new patches. I also don't believe this will eat up 15 gig of space for anyone complaining, it will overwrite the day one patch plus the new patch of whatever it is (500mb someone said)
    Gta can patch incrementally on ps4, sure as hell eso can do it, do not see a good reason why they are unable to.

    I mean im downloading PS2 at the current mintute and its about the same size including all patching data and i'll be on it within the next hour.

    Zenimax have really dropped the ball big time today.Especially after such a rocky launch.

    I wasn't saying it wasn't zenis fault, was just saying we have had an answer as to why it's 15gig. Sure it wasn't the answer everyone wanted, and sure it's Zenimaxs fault... But the questions been answered was all I was pointing out :)
  • Germal
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    Mr.knott wrote: »
    Germal wrote: »
    Ak
    Anguished wrote: »
    LOL at the post at the top of the page. You say you want updates, yet you're "trading your game" because of the update download file. This isn't adding 15G to your console, it is OVERWRITING the previous update. Maybe you should do some reading to find that out. I'm rank 1 in my pvp server and have a blast every time I play. Lag is expected in any game that renders 200 characters on a screen. If you can't wait more than TWO WEEKS to fix a massive game, then we don't want to play with you anyways. BAIBAI!!

    [snip]

    [snip]


    [snip]

    I've played a lot of yours so far and haven't come across any 'game breaking' stuff. I've played the pc version since launch and I can tell you we have absolutely nothing to complain about in comparison. It's pretty clear zos have been focused on the consoles all along. I've enjoyed the game Far more on ps4 than pc, those guys have stuff to complain about....

    Broken quests that dont let you advance, broken console UI ( not implemented lol ),no communication with the customers about something like that today ( 15 GB of trash ) thats my points, for other game breaking stuff pls visit the console forums, plenty of input for you to investigate.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:32
  • Mr.knott
    Mr.knott
    Germal wrote: »
    Mr.knott wrote: »
    Germal wrote: »
    Ak
    Anguished wrote: »
    LOL at the post at the top of the page. You say you want updates, yet you're "trading your game" because of the update download file. This isn't adding 15G to your console, it is OVERWRITING the previous update. Maybe you should do some reading to find that out. I'm rank 1 in my pvp server and have a blast every time I play. Lag is expected in any game that renders 200 characters on a screen. If you can't wait more than TWO WEEKS to fix a massive game, then we don't want to play with you anyways. BAIBAI!!

    [snip]

    [snip]


    [snip]

    I've played a lot of yours so far and haven't come across any 'game breaking' stuff. I've played the pc version since launch and I can tell you we have absolutely nothing to complain about in comparison. It's pretty clear zos have been focused on the consoles all along. I've enjoyed the game Far more on ps4 than pc, those guys have stuff to complain about....

    Broken quests that dont let you advance, broken console UI ( not implemented lol ),no communication with the customers about something like that today ( 15 GB of trash ) thats my points, for other game breaking stuff pls visit the console forums, plenty of input for you to investigate.

    I'm into veteran and haven't experienced any broken quest that a simple log out and log in doesn't solve. I have zero issues with the ui....?

    Sure this is a *** up by Zenimax but what can we all do about it? Download the patch and play or stop playing? No need to take to a forum to whine and moan is there? I know what to expect from Zenimax from playing on the pc... However I personally love the game and until something really really rattles my cage I'll deal with it! :)

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 November 2024 19:33
  • Razgriz_2142
    ahost1_ESO wrote: »
    Pman85 wrote: »
    some of you guys have some serious internet speed issues.

    Work for sky get 20mbps adsl connection for free, its not great but passable Didint expext to get another 16gb patch when they said incremental update

    besides i work in bb tech as my day job, its not always the persons fault they cant get good speed, especially rural areas and the line quality itself always play a factor aswell as the fact wireless speed is lower etc a lot of the time it isnt the persons fault or even the isp fault

    its not very fair to ask people to download another massive patch but say this was only incremental is my point, i woudnt mind if they had said ok this patch will be this big and all that before the maintenance and a lot of people would most likey be the same as it would give them a good idea of what they were dealing with im off work today and was looking forward to a quick patch n go like the days of WoW incrementals

    only upside is it means i'll just play guitar or boot up the ps2

    Wait.... Did you say DSL? DSL speeds can't even come close to cable speeds anymore. Expecially ADSL. If you're going to have DSL at least get XDSL. DSL technology is so bad. I know cause I've had ADSL before and if the download speed isn't bad enough, most of the time your upload is capped at 1.5 mbps.

    Alas its the best i can get in my area at the minute on adsl and virgin media really screwed me over a long time ago

    I stay literally across from the telephone exchange its within sptting distance of my house

    FIbre cabinets are still rolling out in my area, besides i shouldnt rage to much bout my overall speed i get it for free with my staff plan *shrugs*

    not to mention my line got my day one patch done in 3h hardwired, this is taking 40 and nope theres no traffic management either hahaah or even data caps,

    besides in this case your upload means jack, cause you know we are downloading a patch.
  • LoSnupo
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    Best thing to do is vote with your wallet.
    I will do.
    I have just bought two games from Zenimax: the first and the last.

  • Lifeshield
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    Wait.... Did you say DSL? DSL speeds can't even come close to cable speeds anymore. Expecially ADSL. If you're going to have DSL at least get XDSL. DSL technology is so bad. I know cause I've had ADSL before and if the download speed isn't bad enough, most of the time your upload is capped at 1.5 mbps.

    Cable isn't available to everyone. Some people are just stuck with what they have because they have no better alternatives.
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