Just idea for ESO+ Members

BigM

Why not allow 1 to 12 characters when you sub with ESO+. If they unsub then they have to pick the 8 they want to use. You could also sell slots in crown store like 1200 crowns to open one slot. Just an idea and think it would make a lot of loyal members happy.

NewBlacksmurf

I don't like this idea but would support buying extra character slots for crowns to have forever by server

BigM

Can you give a reason why you don't like it?

NewBlacksmurf

Why I don't like it:
This basically adds more to the ESO Plus membership benefits that don't need changing.
What does need changing are the amount of character slots, so let's focus on what we want vs adding things to something that doesn't need changing to get what is desired from the character slot idea.

Skiserony

Because not allowing you to play with all your 12 characters might force you to keep paying, where as you buy a new slot with crown points you can always play no matter what.

I think it will be there in the future.

BigM

Not like the ESO+ users really get a lot and if they would sell in crown store then it would only be fitting that would need to give how many they allow from store to be given to + Members.

Valrien

Well you could just let them keep the character slots after their ESO+ ends, like they do with DDO's subscription plan.

NewBlacksmurf

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

BigM

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

It would be a lot if the DLC was perm when you finished it. So really they aren't getting a lot.

Valrien

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

It would be nice, except we're just renting the DLC. As soon as our sub expires we lose that content.

NewBlacksmurf

BigM wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

It would be a lot if the DLC was perm when you finished it. So really they aren't getting a lot.

Valrien wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

It would be nice, except we're just renting the DLC. As soon as our sub expires we lose that content.

$15 is the cost of 1500 crowns in the store. That's permanent
The other benefits speak for themselves so just wait for DLC

If you're an active subscriber the crowns allow you to own the DLC after buying using crowns regardless of expiration of a sub

lathbury

BigM wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

what dlc?

BigM

lathbury wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ESO Plus are getting a lot
-access to any DLC regardless of price!!!!!!!!
-Bonus exp rate and research
-1500 crowns included (which is $15 without ESO plus)

what dlc?

You sir deserve a big LOL!

mtwiggz

ESO+ needs more benefits I would agree. Having more character slots is something the game needs as a whole. I would back the idea of adding an option to the Crown Store, but the P2W community would be all over that.

Gidorick

Hey look! It's de-thread-vu. heheh.

@NewBlacksmurf. The opinion that ESO+ offers enough benefits is just that... an opinion. By that same token, so is the view that there aren't enough benefits.

The ONLY way we would know if ESO+ offers enough benefits is if ZOS were to release pre and post B2P Sub numbers.

From what we've seen on this forum, there are many people who are of the opinion that ESO+ doesn't offer enough. Just because you speak matter-of-factly about the subject doesn't make your opinion fact.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166473/so-my-subscription-has-2-weeks-left-last-plea-for-a-better-eso/p3

Arthur_Spoonfondle

Valrien wrote: »

It would be nice, except we're just renting the DLC. As soon as our sub expires we lose that content.

Then buy the DLC, if any is ever produced.

dRudE

I like this idea, and the concept works. Subbed members get more slots while subbed, with the option open to everyone to buy extra slots individually. The only problem this could bring up is we are playing on megaservers and there would still need to be a maximum limit.

Another thing to bare in mind is that since the game went B2P it is a lot easier to gain access to more character slots. Adding an option to provide more slots to existing accounts could bring in more cash flow from players who don't see the need for a second account in this game.

NewBlacksmurf

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey look! It's de-thread-vu. heheh.

@NewBlacksmurf. The opinion that ESO+ offers enough benefits is just that... an opinion. By that same token, so is the view that there aren't enough benefits.

The ONLY way we would know if ESO+ offers enough benefits is if ZOS were to release pre and post B2P Sub numbers.

From what we've seen on this forum, there are many people who are of the opinion that ESO+ doesn't offer enough. Just because you speak matter-of-factly about the subject doesn't make your opinion fact.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166473/so-my-subscription-has-2-weeks-left-last-plea-for-a-better-eso/p3

I don't get that logic.
Release numbers does nothing but cause more off the wall threads.
Until there is 2 or more DLC in the crown store there is no logic in changing anything around this.

The only reason there is an ESO is due to feedback like...if they drop the sub xyz person would still rather buy a sub vs buying DLC but like the option of some way for subscribers to also own DLC without buying it outside of a sub.

Gidorick

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey look! It's de-thread-vu. heheh.

@NewBlacksmurf. The opinion that ESO+ offers enough benefits is just that... an opinion. By that same token, so is the view that there aren't enough benefits.

The ONLY way we would know if ESO+ offers enough benefits is if ZOS were to release pre and post B2P Sub numbers.

From what we've seen on this forum, there are many people who are of the opinion that ESO+ doesn't offer enough. Just because you speak matter-of-factly about the subject doesn't make your opinion fact.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166473/so-my-subscription-has-2-weeks-left-last-plea-for-a-better-eso/p3

I don't get that logic.
Release numbers does nothing but cause more off the wall threads.
Until there is 2 or more DLC in the crown store there is no logic in changing anything around this.

The only reason there is an ESO is due to feedback like...if they drop the sub xyz person would still rather buy a sub vs buying DLC but like the option of some way for subscribers to also own DLC without buying it outside of a sub.

I think that we need extra benefits BECAUSE there isn't DLC. At least, I think ESO+ needs it to remain beneficial to every player.

NewBlacksmurf

Gidorick wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey look! It's de-thread-vu. heheh.

@NewBlacksmurf. The opinion that ESO+ offers enough benefits is just that... an opinion. By that same token, so is the view that there aren't enough benefits.

The ONLY way we would know if ESO+ offers enough benefits is if ZOS were to release pre and post B2P Sub numbers.

From what we've seen on this forum, there are many people who are of the opinion that ESO+ doesn't offer enough. Just because you speak matter-of-factly about the subject doesn't make your opinion fact.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166473/so-my-subscription-has-2-weeks-left-last-plea-for-a-better-eso/p3

I don't get that logic.
Release numbers does nothing but cause more off the wall threads.
Until there is 2 or more DLC in the crown store there is no logic in changing anything around this.

The only reason there is an ESO is due to feedback like...if they drop the sub xyz person would still rather buy a sub vs buying DLC but like the option of some way for subscribers to also own DLC without buying it outside of a sub.

I think that we need extra benefits BECAUSE there isn't DLC. At least, I think ESO+ needs it to remain beneficial to every player.

ESO Plus is $15/month
1500 crows is $15
Ring of Mara gives exp bonus and either comes with the imperial upgrade OR via crown purchases.

Crowns accumulate and can be used to buy all types of DLC and cosmetic stuff
ESO plus, in addition to giving crowns also gives out other bonuses that benefit all in-game characters on a person's account

When DLC is released it will costs anywhere from 100 crowns to 5,000+ crowns

The benefits are obvious but this plan today is an investment for the future that offer instant and current benefits.
I don't follow what people are missing....what about all this creates a need for more?

We all know DLC is coming and crown store sales and limited purchases continue


Edit: today is $15 as you please or not at all
It was $15/month just to play in addition to buying some DLC and having some included.

The old plan costs more

Gidorick

You seem to be hung up on the 1500 crowns @NewBlacksmurf ... it's better to buy Crown Packs.

Gidorick wrote: »

Crown Packs:

750 Crowns = $7.99 = 94 Crowns /$
1500 Crowns = $14.99 = 100 Crowns/$
3000 Crowns = $24.99 = 120 Crowns/$
5500 Crowns = $39.99 = 137.5 Crowns/$

Plus Subscriptions:

30 Day Sub = 1500 Crowns = $14.99 = 100 Crowns/$
90 Day Sub = 4500 Crowns = $41.97 = 107 Crowns/$
180 Day Sub = 9000 Crowns = $77.94 = 115.5 Crowns/$

I also looked at it this way:

750 Crowns = 100 crows for $1.06
1500 Crowns = 100 crows for $0.99
3000 Crowns = 100 crows for $0.83
5500 Crowns = 100 crows for $0.72

Plus Subscriptions:

30 Day Sub = 1500 Crowns = 100 crows for $0.99
90 Day Sub = 4500 Crowns = 100 crows for $0.93
180 Day Sub = 9000 Crowns =100 crows for $0.86

It looks like, if you're just interested in Crowns, your best bet is to just buy the 5500 Crown pack. It's almost 1/4 off the price.

Old plan "cost more" sure... but THAT plan doesn't exist any more. ESO+ costs more than just getting Crown Packs.

BigM

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey look! It's de-thread-vu. heheh.

@NewBlacksmurf. The opinion that ESO+ offers enough benefits is just that... an opinion. By that same token, so is the view that there aren't enough benefits.

The ONLY way we would know if ESO+ offers enough benefits is if ZOS were to release pre and post B2P Sub numbers.

From what we've seen on this forum, there are many people who are of the opinion that ESO+ doesn't offer enough. Just because you speak matter-of-factly about the subject doesn't make your opinion fact.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166473/so-my-subscription-has-2-weeks-left-last-plea-for-a-better-eso/p3

I don't get that logic.
Release numbers does nothing but cause more off the wall threads.
Until there is 2 or more DLC in the crown store there is no logic in changing anything around this.

The only reason there is an ESO is due to feedback like...if they drop the sub xyz person would still rather buy a sub vs buying DLC but like the option of some way for subscribers to also own DLC without buying it outside of a sub.

I think that we need extra benefits BECAUSE there isn't DLC. At least, I think ESO+ needs it to remain beneficial to every player.

ESO Plus is $15/month
1500 crows is $15
Ring of Mara gives exp bonus and either comes with the imperial upgrade OR via crown purchases.

Crowns accumulate and can be used to buy all types of DLC and cosmetic stuff
ESO plus, in addition to giving crowns also gives out other bonuses that benefit all in-game characters on a person's account

When DLC is released it will costs anywhere from 100 crowns to 5,000+ crowns

The benefits are obvious but this plan today is an investment for the future that offer instant and current benefits.
I don't follow what people are missing....what about all this creates a need for more?

We all know DLC is coming and crown store sales and limited purchases continue


Edit: today is $15 as you please or not at all
It was $15/month just to play in addition to buying some DLC and having some included.

The old plan costs more

You act like giving them 15 a month is just us buying 1500 crowns. The idea is when people buy a subscription they will continue to buy it, where it is guaranteed money coming in every month. Now with DLC we have no clue at this time how much they will be. I agree with others that the imp city DLC should be free to all of us, considering we were told it was coming then put on hold for B2P. But you have no idea how much a DLC is going to be unless you have insider info?

Now as far as the old plan costs more, that is down right BS, we all know a F2P/B2P with a store costs more in the long run.

But still I am amazed you just ignore the fact how loyal players paid for the B2P/console coding. We keep them in cash while they lied to us.

I'm still laughing when you post because you talk like you are some how connected to the company, yeah yeah am nuts, but yet that is how you come across.

Still you can't sell an extra slot in store if that slot isn't already guaranteed in the subscription. That would make no sense at all. Unless you are in the lets rip the players off guild?

BigM

@ NewBlacksmurf Oh one more thing, if you think we already have enough with ESO+ how much did we lose when bots were scooping up all the crafting items? You act by us standing up to support the game meant nata during those dark times. We all know the most important time starting the game is the first month and majority of us were denied that and it was lost forever. Do I still believe they owe us, you betcha. Do I care, a little, but not as much.

Making this post about what they could give the sub people and how they could make even more money from store that wouldn't be P2W. I thought it was a good idea, but seems like you only want to give it to store and force sub players to even have to dish out more cash. Pretty stupid if they did it, it would only cause more people to actually walk away.

NewBlacksmurf

Guys....best of luck....you're missing it

Gidorick

What are we missing? Don't give up on us @NewBlacksmurf!

Funkopotamus

Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

It would be nice, except we're just renting the DLC. As soon as our sub expires we lose that content.

Then buy the DLC, if any is ever produced.

If you think there will not be DLC's coming out on a damn conveyer belt after Console release you are CRAZY! Why the heck do you think they waited so long? To MILK E-V-E-R-Y last dime from the player base. That would mean holding all DLCs back until Console is up and running SMOOTHLY for a few months then open the floodgates and empty our wallets.

Bottom Line ZOS is in a pinch right now financially so making money is FIRST priority.... If they can make you happy at the same time that will be a bonus..

NewBlacksmurf

Many people are missing the purpose of ESO Plus

So many are trying to make everything applicable "right now" but that's not how this works nor how it's intended to work
There are immediate benefits and long term benefits as well as optional ways to create benefits for any person who chooses to use ESO plus and just as equal, benefits for those who choose not to use ESO Plus.

Many of you are trying to create a situation where there are many benefits to using ESO plus and in doing so create NO BENEFITS for choosing not to use ESO plus. Buying crowns alone work within this concept equally....

That's the concept...can you catch it?

BigM

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Many people are missing the purpose of ESO Plus

So many are trying to make everything applicable "right now" but that's not how this works nor how it's intended to work
There are immediate benefits and long term benefits as well as optional ways to create benefits for any person who chooses to use ESO plus and just as equal, benefits for those who choose not to use ESO Plus.

Many of you are trying to create a situation where there are many benefits to using ESO plus and in doing so create NO BENEFITS for choosing not to use ESO plus. Buying crowns alone work within this concept equally....

That's the concept...can you catch it?

That is complete BS and again you sure you don't work for them?

NewBlacksmurf

BigM wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Many people are missing the purpose of ESO Plus

So many are trying to make everything applicable "right now" but that's not how this works nor how it's intended to work
There are immediate benefits and long term benefits as well as optional ways to create benefits for any person who chooses to use ESO plus and just as equal, benefits for those who choose not to use ESO Plus.

Many of you are trying to create a situation where there are many benefits to using ESO plus and in doing so create NO BENEFITS for choosing not to use ESO plus. Buying crowns alone work within this concept equally....

That's the concept...can you catch it?

That is complete BS and again you sure you don't work for them?

Trust me it's not BS and no I don't work go Zenimax.
It's business marketing and it's a bit of what's called pipelining.

A lot of this diff is/are sales strategies and marketing/business planning.

I see stuff like this 5 days a week for the last 8+ years. I'm not special, it's just that corporate strategies don't differ too much these days.

BigM

Oh OK so they knew exactly what they were doing to us from day 1?

NewBlacksmurf

Go to your favorite store and write down the price of any cell phone and its plans.
Keep looking at 3 other stores and how they market the same phone for 3-6 months

Look at your insurance policy
Go look at the same coverages with 3-6 other carriers

Now 6 months from now do it again....you'll be like....oh sheeezzy
Then look back at this thread