What best race for Templar , new player help me please

SIXR_sCaR

Im new player
played alot mmo-rpgs
For templar with 2-h sword
Which race is like Ret pally from WoW
( Melee high dps with 2-h sword with healing )

Natjur

Play a DK instead as they have Green Dragon Blood which is the best self heal in the game.

But if you want to heal others...
First you have to work out do you want to be a magic based or stamina based.

Stamina based is not the best at healing others but better for high melee
Magic based is better for healing, but not really a melee build but you can use templar melee skills like biting stabs....

But at the end of the day, the race pick does not make a very large difference (but it can be noticed end game)

Nifty2g

High Elf: Combat regen and bonuses to your elemental damage, High Elf is the best class for every caster

SIXR_sCaR

thx though
i really i want to stick with Templar
i just need to know which race is best for high dps and little healing on side

Nifty2g

edited post for you

bosmern_ESO

You dont want to start off as a Templar if you are a new player unless you want to be a healer.

there are 2 types of Templars:
Stamina templars who use weapon abilities more then the class abilities
or the Healer templar that cant ever kill anyone

SIXR_sCaR

Nifty2g wrote: »

edited post for you

ok ty

Prizax

great choice man stay as a templar and if you want to be a dps I would recommend redguard for stamina dps...
it does make a lot of difference at the end game.

SIXR_sCaR

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

You dont want to start off as a Templar if you are a new player unless you want to be a healer.

there are 2 types of Templars:
Stamina templars who use weapon abilities more then the class abilities
or the Healer templar that cant ever kill anyone

i just want to do damage mostly as templar , i heard templar are like paladins from world of warcraft

Natjur

List of all races and their bonuses

I prefer Breton's for a magic based healer myself as most of Templar's skills are pure magic based (zero elemental damage) But High Elf (Altmer) are just as good, I just don't like their 'look'.

glak

Templar already has spell resistance, Breton adds even more. Breton has spell cost reduction, but not enough to balance with High Elf's magicka regen.

Templar used to have magicka regen issues but more regen is always welcome for Breath of Light spam. So go High Elf as Nifty2g suggested. If want human race, go for Breton.

SIXR_sCaR

Natjur wrote: »

List of all races and their bonuses

I prefer Breton's for a magic based healer myself as most of Templar's skills are pure magic based (zero elemental damage) But High Elf (Altmer) are just as good, I just don't like their 'look'.

ty for that chart

SIXR_sCaR

glak wrote: »

Templar already has spell resistance, Breton adds even more. Breton has spell cost reduction, but not enough to balance with High Elf's magicka regen.

Templar used to have magicka regen issues but more regen is always welcome for Breath of Light spam. So go High Elf as Nifty2g suggested. If want human race, go for Breton.

ok will do thx

Natjur

Just don't make an Argonian Templar like I did as my first toon. They nerfed their only good passive into nothingness.

I can't see why anyone would make an Argonian for ANY CLASS unless they just really, really liked the lizard look. Almost any other race is better for any class over an Argonian

SIXR_sCaR

Natjur wrote: »

Just don't make an Argonian Templar like I did as my first toon. They nerfed their only good passive into nothingness

they hit you with nerf bat
this is madness

SIXR_sCaR

hey sorry to disturb everyone , but would Khajiit
work too because they get

Rank I
Increases Health Recovery while in combat by 10%
Khajiit Rank 5
Rank II
Increases Health Recovery while in combat by 20%
(Robust Rank I)
Rank III
Increases Health Recovery while in combat by 30%
(Robust Rank II)
Stealthy.png
Stealthy
(Passive Skill)
Rank I
Reduces your detection radius in Stealth by 1m
Increases damage done while in Stealth by 3%
Khajiit Rank 25
Rank II
Reduces your detection radius in Stealth by 2m
Increases damage done while in Stealth by 6%
(Stealthy Rank I)
Rank III
Reduces your detection radius in Stealth by 3m
Increases damage done while in Stealth by 9%
(Stealthy Rank II)
Carnage.png
Carnage
(Passive Skill)
Rank I
Increases Weapon Critical by 2%
Khajiit Rank 25
Rank II
Increases Weapon Critical by 4%
(Carnage Rank I)
Rank III
Increases Weapon Critical by 6%

Nifty2g

depends if you want to be stamina or magicka based.
stamina for khajiit
magicka for high elf

SIXR_sCaR

Nifty2g wrote: »

depends if you want to be stamina or magicka based.
stamina for khajiit
magicka for high elf

i want be melee dps , High dps up in face with little healing

can you explain what stamina and magicka does
mybad

UrQuan

SIXR_sCaR wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

depends if you want to be stamina or magicka based.
stamina for khajiit
magicka for high elf

i want be melee dps , High dps up in face with little healing

can you explain what stamina and magicka does
mybad

Basically they're different resource pools.

Unless you're using a staff as your weapon, weapon abilities use stamina, and your weapon power (which is the stat that those abilities scale off in order to determine how much they hit for) is scaled partly based on the stats of the weapon you have equipped, and partly based on the size of your stamina pool. Your stamina is also used when you block attacks to reduce the damage they do, when you dodge-roll to get out of the way of an AOE, when you bash an enemy to interrupt them and stop them from casting, and when you move while sneaking.

Class abilities, on the other hand, use magicka, and your spell power (which is the stat that those abilities scale off in order to determine how much they hit for) is scaled partly based on the size of your magicka pool. It should be noted that some (but not all) class skills can later be morphed into abilities that use stamina instead of magicka, and that scale off your weapon power instead of your spell power.

You're going to have to choose how to allocate your stats between health, magicka, and stamina. Health is important to everyone, but more so to some roles than others. Unless you're going to be a tank, the biggest decision is whether to focus primarily on stamina or magicka.

Basically if you want to cast a lot of spells, you're going to want to focus on magicka. If you want to do a lot of melee DPS (or ranged using a bow rather than a staff), you're going to want to focus on stamina.

From what you describe as the play style you're looking for, I think you might want to go with a stamina build. You'll still have some magicka, so you'll still be able to heal yourself (or others) every now and then, but you'll focus mostly on stamina and be able to do good DPS with your two-hander. Also, Puncturing Strikes, which is probably going to be the first Templar ability you take, and is one of the key abilities of the class, has a stamina morph that's good for DPS.

glak

SIXR_sCaR wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

depends if you want to be stamina or magicka based.
stamina for khajiit
magicka for high elf

i want be melee dps , High dps up in face with little healing

can you explain what stamina and magicka does
mybad

Stamina is for melee or bow DPS.
Currently, Magicka is for healing or Sorc DPS but also employs destruction staves.

Since healing is a minor area for you and stamina DPS a major area, go Khajiit. I misinterpreted how much you want to heal.

nothing2591

Imperial for stamina because of the 10% incease to max stamina and 12% increase to hp.
High elf for magicka for the 9%magicka regen in combat and the 10% incease in max magicka.

glak

nothing2591 wrote: »

Imperial for stamina because of the 10% incease to max stamina and 12% increase to hp.
High elf for magicka for the 9%magicka regen in combat and the 10% incease in max magicka.

Yes, if Imperial is somehow available to the new player (crown store?).

C0pp3rhead

Use an Imperial - they have lots of health, which is good all around. The stam they have is great for the melee dps. Your templar skills will help you heal yourself.
You could use a Dark elf - cost reduction for both stamina and magicka - plus they have +fire damage, which benefits several templar skills.

SIXR_sCaR

ty so much guyz , time for me to quest
TY ALL AGAIN . Hopefully this noob can become really good 1 day

UrQuan

SIXR_sCaR wrote: »

ty so much guyz , time for me to quest
TY ALL AGAIN . Hopefully this noob can become really good 1 day

Don't be afraid to play around with different builds of skills and attributes until you find a mix that works for you. You can always respec - it's not super cheap in terms of gold, but there aren't a lot of gold sinks in this game, so unless you're respeccing all the time it shouldn't be much of an issue.

Zhoyzu

Argonians receive extra healing and level resto staff quicker.

I dont know what all this about templars not magicka DPSing but w/e

For stam pick either imperial redguard or wood elf they have stam bonuses

FOr magicka pick altmer breton

You can magicka DPS but just know magicka is gonna allow you to fill 2 roles if need be (heals DPS) where as stam is gonna limit you prety hard to just dpsing. Temps do have a good amount of stam skills now that are strong.

Cernow

The closest you're going to get to Retribution Paladin playstyle is with a Templar using 2h + templar heals and aedric spear abilities

Good race choices would be Imperial or Redguard if you're focusing on stamina, Altmer or Breton if you're focusing more on magicka (although Breton and Imperial both make good all-rounders).

Here's how I have my Imperial Templar set up for stamina DPS with 2h:

1) Biting Jabs (your main spammable attack that also heals as it damages)
2) Wrecking Blow (2h skill, knocks enemy down)
3) Breath Of Life (your best self heal that also can heal others nearby)
4) Repentance (for regenerating stamina, magicka and health)
5) Critical Rush (your 2h gap closer, which you could swap for Executioner if you prefer an execute ability).
6) Empowering Sweep (Ultimate)

Note that you can't get all these abilities early on, so try some other skills while you level as you work towards them.

Note also that a stamina Templar can't totally ignore magicka as you need it for your self heals. So you'll need some magicka from gear and/or attribute points if you plan to be able to have reasonable healing.

On your second bar (which you get at 15) you can either use a restoration staff (if you want some more healing), a bow (if you want some range) or 1h+shield (if you want to be a bit more tanky).

wrlifeboil

Natjur wrote: »

Just don't make an Argonian Templar like I did as my first toon. They nerfed their only good passive into nothingness.

I can't see why anyone would make an Argonian for ANY CLASS unless they just really, really liked the lizard look. Almost any other race is better for any class over an Argonian

Argonians make good bank toons.

AngryNord

Any race.
Nord have a slight bonus to two-handed though.

Iselin

Cernow wrote: »

The closest you're going to get to Retribution Paladin playstyle is with a Templar using 2h + templar heals and aedric spear abilities

Good race choices would be Imperial or Redguard if you're focusing on stamina, Altmer or Breton if you're focusing more on magicka (although Breton and Imperial both make good all-rounders).

Here's how I have my Imperial Templar set up for stamina DPS with 2h:

1) Biting Jabs (your main spammable attack that also heals as it damages)
2) Wrecking Blow (2h skill, knocks enemy down)
3) Breath Of Life (your best self heal that also can heal others nearby)
4) Repentance (for regenerating stamina, magicka and health)
5) Critical Rush (your 2h gap closer, which you could swap for Executioner if you prefer an execute ability).
6) Empowering Sweep (Ultimate)

Note that you can't get all these abilities early on, so try some other skills while you level as you work towards them.

Note also that a stamina Templar can't totally ignore magicka as you need it for your self heals. So you'll need some magicka from gear and/or attribute points if you plan to be able to have reasonable healing.

On your second bar (which you get at 15) you can either use a restoration staff (if you want some more healing), a bow (if you want some range) or 1h+shield (if you want to be a bit more tanky).

It'll take him quite a while to get Wrecking Blow so for the early levels I would suggest Cleave morphed to Brawler which is the first ability you get for 2HD. It works well in addition to Biting Jabs as another AOE ability that also helps you survive. That's how I did it.

IMHO, leveling is all about building for handling packs of 3 or more... which you will run into in public dungeons, group dungeon trash and dolmens quite often as well as some spots in open world questing.

Also... about healing. Eventually you'll get Rally from the 2HD skill line which is the best Self heal you'll have since it also buffs your weapon damage by 20%. But that comes much, much later when you have your 2HD skill line at 38+.

Until then you'll have to rely on the magicka based Rushed Ceremony at least until you get Repentance which in addition to restoring resources also heals you at no cost of either magicka or stamina.

I took bow as my second weapon and also took advantage of its AOE capabilities. When facing a large group in public dungeons solo, for example. I would typically start with Scorched Earth on the spot where I want the fight to happen then before that even lands Acid Spray for a second DOT and slow, then quickly switch to 2HD and Critical Rush to keep the fight in the fire AOE DOT from scorched earth and typically Brawler and Biting Jab what little life they have left out of them... use Repentance to top up and quickly move on to the next group.

Stamina Templars are very fun AOE killing machines that need practically no downtime between fights.

bosmern_ESO

SIXR_sCaR wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

You dont want to start off as a Templar if you are a new player unless you want to be a healer.

there are 2 types of Templars:
Stamina templars who use weapon abilities more then the class abilities
or the Healer templar that cant ever kill anyone

i just want to do damage mostly as templar , i heard templar are like paladins from world of warcraft

They're nothing like Paladins.

In most endgame groups all anyone will want you for is heals, you'd probably have to get with a group of casual players/friends if you wanted to do anything else.

Healing is great for Templars (mainly the passives, most abilities aren't as good as the Healing staff ones)
DPS is lacking a lot (unless you're stamina, and again, its more of the weapon doing the work)
Tanking is great (I slot my own heals and just hold aggro because I can be a tanky healer, allows for 3 DPS)