Would you like the ability to switch between saved specs?

filmoretub17_ESO

A lot of mmo's allow you to switch between specs for your character without going through the pains of rebuilding everything from scratch. This game needs the ability to save multiple specs for players who would like to do more then 1 role for their character. For example one could have a NB 2h spec saved and that same character could also have a NB sap tank saved or a dual wield. And another slot to save a different spec. Its getting old trying to build new specs and spending all the gold and gear and be stuck that way till you go through the entire process again.

Vanzen

Thats what addons are for ... (swap continued/Wykkid's outfitter) Good luck to console players.

Ffastyl

I don't care either way.

I do fine without it so why would I need it? If it's implemented, I probably won't use it.

filmoretub17_ESO

Yes this is long past due.

Vanzen wrote: »

Thats what addons are for ... (swap continued/Wykkid's outfitter) Good luck to console players.

Ffastyl wrote: »

I do fine without it so why would I need it? If it's implemented, I probably won't use it.

If you played WOW or Rift you would know exactly what im talking about. There are several ways to play each class and being locked into one style isn't really the best option for this game imo. Addon's can make the process much faster but it does not make it any cheaper which is gonna cost you quite a bit of gold at v14. Some people like playing 1 character only 1 way and that's fine to each their own.

newtinmpls

No I would rather everyone make new characters instead.

I don't advocate folks roll up new characters, I simply advocate that they don't get so locked into the need to change every little thing.

Steinschlag

Yes this is long past due.

Yes. I want it too. I`m tank but sometimes i play the DK as DD. So i must change Attributes, CP, Mundus, Skills, Gear.

No AddOn does that^^

TheSunAlsoRises

I don't care either way.

Vanzen wrote: »

Thats what addons are for ... (swap continued/Wykkid's outfitter) Good luck to console players.

oh snap. no addons for console...

EDIT: i have multiple "specs" that i run thanks to addons like wyykd's.

Davadin

No I would rather everyone make new characters instead.

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....


...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points)

Removing those costs will unbalance the game since everyone will use add-on that can switch within a click of a button and it will completely ruin the class/skill balance.

Imagine a DK stamina stealth-hunter switching to 100% tank within seconds (just out of combat). That thing is WAY too OP.

just look at wykkid's add-on. switching gear and armors can be hotkeyed. If a user have grinded all quests and all skyshards, there's enough to have at LEAST 2 different builds they can switch using one button.

Having their CP and SP switches too will be even crazier.

glak

Yes this is long past due.

Vanzen wrote: »

Thats what addons are for ... (swap continued/Wykkid's outfitter) Good luck to console players.

Add-ons can't change morphs for you.

newtinmpls

No I would rather everyone make new characters instead.

Davadin wrote: »

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....

...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points).

Thanks for articulating this - something was bugging me and I am too sleepy this morning so I wasn't sure what it was.

Think of this - every time you hit that "instaReSpec" you loose all the gold it normally would take ... or maybe double. Or if you can't "pay" then the mage you have hired to do this ('cause that's what it would take) kills you and you appear in the starting zone of your alliance.

No that wouldn't work ...... ask me when I'm not sleep-deprived.

Rune_Relic

The whole point of the rebalance in 1.6 was so you could not be master healer/tank/dps all at the same time.
If you allow people to flick between top builds of all types at the flick of a button you have completely destroyed the whole point of the rebalance.
wykkids outfitter already extracts the urine on this and allows a loop hole which is exploited to the max....like usual.

filmoretub17_ESO

Yes this is long past due.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

The whole point of the rebalance in 1.6 was so you could not be master healer/tank/dps all at the same time.
If you allow people to flick between top builds of all types at the flick of a button you have completely destroyed the whole point of the rebalance.
wykkids outfitter already extracts the urine on this and allows a loop hole which is exploited to the max....like usual.

Then make people leave cyrodiil before they can switch roles. They can do the same for dungeons like WOW did. Or like Rift it took like 10 seconds to complete the task.

danno8

Yes this is long past due.

I would like it very much. Wykyyds is great but he had to leave the game. Fortunately a couple other authors took over, But it is probably in maintenance mode now.

Davadin wrote: »

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....


...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points)

Removing those costs will unbalance the game since everyone will use add-on that can switch within a click of a button and it will completely ruin the class/skill balance.

Imagine a DK stamina stealth-hunter switching to 100% tank within seconds (just out of combat). That thing is WAY too OP.

just look at wykkid's add-on. switching gear and armors can be hotkeyed. If a user have grinded all quests and all skyshards, there's enough to have at LEAST 2 different builds they can switch using one button.

Having their CP and SP switches too will be even crazier.

Not sure about you but in PvP I am stuck in combat for at least 30 seconds after attacking anything, even if they die. If you are out of combat why should you not be able to switch out your build? I am trying to think of any situation where this would be unfair, and can not. People change there skills and gear out all the time in between fighting, with or without addons.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

The whole point of the rebalance in 1.6 was so you could not be master healer/tank/dps all at the same time.
If you allow people to flick between top builds of all types at the flick of a button you have completely destroyed the whole point of the rebalance.
wykkids outfitter already extracts the urine on this and allows a loop hole which is exploited to the max....like usual.

You can not change it in combat. The whole point of the re-balance was to make it so you would HAVE to change your build to be a tank, or change it to be dps or change it to be tank. DK's had it all at once basically. They never switched anything out ever.

Davadin

No I would rather everyone make new characters instead.

newtinmpls wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....

...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points).

Thanks for articulating this - something was bugging me and I am too sleepy this morning so I wasn't sure what it was.

Think of this - every time you hit that "instaReSpec" you loose all the gold it normally would take ... or maybe double. Or if you can't "pay" then the mage you have hired to do this ('cause that's what it would take) kills you and you appear in the starting zone of your alliance.

No that wouldn't work ...... ask me when I'm not sleep-deprived.

OK.

That I like.

If the insta-respec actually COSTS the same as it is, the only difference is it's instant.... (or cost a bit more for the convenience?) then it would work.

danno8 wrote: »

I would like it very much. Wykyyds is great but he had to leave the game. Fortunately a couple other authors took over, But it is probably in maintenance mode now.

Davadin wrote: »

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....


...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points)

Removing those costs will unbalance the game since everyone will use add-on that can switch within a click of a button and it will completely ruin the class/skill balance.

Imagine a DK stamina stealth-hunter switching to 100% tank within seconds (just out of combat). That thing is WAY too OP.

just look at wykkid's add-on. switching gear and armors can be hotkeyed. If a user have grinded all quests and all skyshards, there's enough to have at LEAST 2 different builds they can switch using one button.

Having their CP and SP switches too will be even crazier.

Not sure about you but in PvP I am stuck in combat for at least 30 seconds after attacking anything, even if they die. If you are out of combat why should you not be able to switch out your build? I am trying to think of any situation where this would be unfair, and can not. People change there skills and gear out all the time in between fighting, with or without addons.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

The whole point of the rebalance in 1.6 was so you could not be master healer/tank/dps all at the same time.
If you allow people to flick between top builds of all types at the flick of a button you have completely destroyed the whole point of the rebalance.
wykkids outfitter already extracts the urine on this and allows a loop hole which is exploited to the max....like usual.

You can not change it in combat. The whole point of the re-balance was to make it so you would HAVE to change your build to be a tank, or change it to be dps or change it to be tank. DK's had it all at once basically. They never switched anything out ever.

Wykkid's add-on already does this. What's the point? So yes, it must be out of combat.


BUT, the biggest difference for changing a build is your SKILL POINTS and CHAMP POINTS. Those costs MONEY. Those, I'd vote NO to have instant-change to you could NOT be switching a master healer/tank/dps within seconds and for FREE.

If it does costs money, then I don't see a problem.



Going to your inventory and swapping gears does not deter people from switching builds.

Paying 35k+ gold does.

Daveheart

Yes this is long past due.

My DK has had a fairly stable build for a while, but I've been changing my templar constantly these days. I've been flipping him between a caster healer/dps, stamina DPS, tank, and some various builds for PvP. While the costs add up, the more frustrating part is having to double check anything since I can't just save my preferences for morphs or champ points. A couple of times in recent weeks, I've switched from a stam DPS to a healer right be for a run through Sanctum Ophidia while also trying to fill out the rest of my group. It would be so much nicer if I could make the conversion a little more automated like my skill and gear swaps.

Ley

I don't care either way.

If you're too lazy to manually swap out your skills once in a while, there's addons that will do exactly what you're asking for.

danno8

Yes this is long past due.

Davadin wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....

...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points).

Thanks for articulating this - something was bugging me and I am too sleepy this morning so I wasn't sure what it was.

Think of this - every time you hit that "instaReSpec" you loose all the gold it normally would take ... or maybe double. Or if you can't "pay" then the mage you have hired to do this ('cause that's what it would take) kills you and you appear in the starting zone of your alliance.

No that wouldn't work ...... ask me when I'm not sleep-deprived.

OK.

That I like.

If the insta-respec actually COSTS the same as it is, the only difference is it's instant.... (or cost a bit more for the convenience?) then it would work.

danno8 wrote: »

I would like it very much. Wykyyds is great but he had to leave the game. Fortunately a couple other authors took over, But it is probably in maintenance mode now.

Davadin wrote: »

No.

The game allows you to be whatever you want to be....


...at a cost. (changing CP and Skill Points)

Removing those costs will unbalance the game since everyone will use add-on that can switch within a click of a button and it will completely ruin the class/skill balance.

Imagine a DK stamina stealth-hunter switching to 100% tank within seconds (just out of combat). That thing is WAY too OP.

just look at wykkid's add-on. switching gear and armors can be hotkeyed. If a user have grinded all quests and all skyshards, there's enough to have at LEAST 2 different builds they can switch using one button.

Having their CP and SP switches too will be even crazier.

Not sure about you but in PvP I am stuck in combat for at least 30 seconds after attacking anything, even if they die. If you are out of combat why should you not be able to switch out your build? I am trying to think of any situation where this would be unfair, and can not. People change there skills and gear out all the time in between fighting, with or without addons.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

The whole point of the rebalance in 1.6 was so you could not be master healer/tank/dps all at the same time.
If you allow people to flick between top builds of all types at the flick of a button you have completely destroyed the whole point of the rebalance.
wykkids outfitter already extracts the urine on this and allows a loop hole which is exploited to the max....like usual.

You can not change it in combat. The whole point of the re-balance was to make it so you would HAVE to change your build to be a tank, or change it to be dps or change it to be tank. DK's had it all at once basically. They never switched anything out ever.

Wykkid's add-on already does this. What's the point? So yes, it must be out of combat.


BUT, the biggest difference for changing a build is your SKILL POINTS and CHAMP POINTS. Those costs MONEY. Those, I'd vote NO to have instant-change to you could NOT be switching a master healer/tank/dps within seconds and for FREE.

If it does costs money, then I don't see a problem.



Going to your inventory and swapping gears does not deter people from switching builds.

Paying 35k+ gold does.

I assumed all the costs will still be in place since the OP never mentioned eliminating the costs.

AngersRevenge

Yes this is long past due.

Not specs as in CP, skill points, and stats. Those are money sinks and are there on purpose to help the economy of the game. But, something like Wykkd's that allow you to change your skill bar outside of combat. There is a lot of addons that should have already been incorperated in game.