REQUEST: Remove Knockback from Puncturing Strikes

Yoven

Hello everyone,

I would like to request the removal of the knockback animation from the Puncturing Strikes skill and it's morphs. And I would like to see it being replaced with a mild snare, immobilization effect or nothing at all. The Puncturing Strikes skill is an incredibly powerful (damage dealing) abity to be used by the Templar community. The only major drawback / flaw is that it gives a worthless CC immunity effect on the last hit. In my general rotation I would like to use Puncturing Strikes as a damage dealing ability, not as a CC. Other skills are much more suitable to be used as a CC. But because Puncturing Strikes gives CC immunity even if the target only gets hit by the last hit, I can't strategically plan when I want to hit my target with a CC.

Puncturing Strikes is the only good damage dealing skill in the Templars arsenal which can be used in a general rotation. It's only being held back by it's bizarre CC immunity giving effect.

Thanks for reading.

Any thoughts fellow players? And @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_AlanG ?

Zargorius

Agree completely, the CC immunity it gives makes it almost worthless for PVP and in PVE has no real benefit - it's just pointless.

Jitterbug

I agree on this - I can't effectively slot this on my templar due to this fact - on top of that it's a channel so it's borderline useless... which is a shame, cause it's a cool skill.

maryriv

OR just remove the CC tag on the ability so the immunity doesn't trigger. I don't think taking away unique abilities is the answer.

Yoven

maryriv wrote: »

OR just remove the CC tag on the ability so the immunity doesn't trigger. I don't think taking away unique abilities is the answer.

Thats what I meant by 'nothing at all'. I didn't mean removing the skill completely.

Aett_Thorn

I see a decent amount of Templars in PVE using nothing BUT this power and still winning easily. It's a one-button-mash snooze fest already. This power really doesn't need any improvements. That being said, if I just gave a snare i wouldn't mind, I just don't think that this power needs to be any more useful than it already is.

FireCowCommando

Sorry but your request implys that

1. ZoS reads the forums (its only community managers)
2. ZoS is ready to start balancing
3. ZoS has a grasp on balance

Give it 2017/2018

They are busy with console release man, give em some time to iron out all those pesky bugs post release. Dont be so darn unrealistic with your expectations and keep your ESO+ sub alive until then.

eliisra

Please give it a snare or remove the knock back entirely. Just do something. The free cc immunity makes it worthless in PvP. It also seems to give immunity to multiple targets, so it's like a fricken raid buff for the enemy

I dont even know what Zos was thinking, turning templars main offensive skill into a joke. It's not like we have any good replacement skills either. Rest is cursed by casting time or such travelling times, not even going to scratch the target.

Actually want enemy templars to use it on me in Cyrodiil right now, the immunity for jabs/sweep saves me a lot of stamina. No need to break Fear every 6 second when there's a jabber nearby. It's a bit ridiculous when you feel relieved by someone attacking you.

Zinrokh

I agree 100% as well. And change Sun Fire's horrendously slow animation.

Imdrefan

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Sorry but your request implys that

1. ZoS reads the forums (its only community managers)
2. ZoS is ready to start balancing
3. ZoS has a grasp on balance

Give it 2017/2018

They are busy with console release man, give em some time to iron out all those pesky bugs post release. Dont be so darn unrealistic with your expectations and keep your ESO+ sub alive until then.

Actually, they do read, and respond and make fixes from our requests. It's not always what we want or as fast as we want but things are happening.

I would like to support this. I would like to see a snare added or nothing at all. As it stands now, I have to CC my opponents force them to cc break then use puncturing sweep. I don't like giving out free cc immunity.

Joy_Division

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

I see a decent amount of Templars in PVE using nothing BUT this power and still winning easily. It's a one-button-mash snooze fest already. This power really doesn't need any improvements. That being said, if I just gave a snare i wouldn't mind, I just don't think that this power needs to be any more useful than it already is.

That's bc/ PVE mobs don't care about CC immunity.

Aett_Thorn

Joy_Division wrote: »

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

I see a decent amount of Templars in PVE using nothing BUT this power and still winning easily. It's a one-button-mash snooze fest already. This power really doesn't need any improvements. That being said, if I just gave a snare i wouldn't mind, I just don't think that this power needs to be any more useful than it already is.

That's bc/ PVE mobs don't care about CC immunity.

Yes, but when talking about these things, PvE needs to be considered. Since powers don't have different effects in PvP or PvE, making it better in PvP makes it better in PvE. and in PvE, you can already just spam this one ability and go from level 1-VR14 basically.

technohic

I agree with removing the knock back completely so I can use a different skill for CC. We can debate later on whether it should have something put in its place, but for right now, I would like for it to just be a damage ability.

In fact; for a lot of templar abilities, I would love to see more that are just instant damage. No DOT. No heal debuff. No store up damage. No casting. No channeling and arbirtrary execute ranges scaling off some stat. Just straight, I hit the button, it does damage with no extra BS situational crap.

Emma_Overload

Agreed. Now that mobs get the same immunity as players, there is literally no point whatsoever to the knockback.

david.haypreub18_ESO

My priority would be:

1. Change the knockback/CC immunity to an AoE root (Templars have no AoE CC)
2. Change it to a snare
3. Remove it entirely

Any of these three would be infinitely preferable to the current situation.

Anhedonie

I totaly agree.

AriBoh

As if ZoS gives 2 ***** about what Templars want. They cant even decide what they want for the class themselves.

glak

Only enemies want the knock back because it is a free break free. Therefore the knock back is a Nerf to the skill. Please buff the skill by removing the knock back. Same logic applies to Javelin.

danno8

NB's got a separate effect for Ambush for PvP (immobilize instead of stun, oh and the stun in PvE does not give out immunity btw), so I think they should do the same for jabs.

1 second immobilize instead of knockback if enemy is another player.

danno8

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

I see a decent amount of Templars in PVE using nothing BUT this power and still winning easily. It's a one-button-mash snooze fest already. This power really doesn't need any improvements. That being said, if I just gave a snare i wouldn't mind, I just don't think that this power needs to be any more useful than it already is.

That's bc/ PVE mobs don't care about CC immunity.

Yes, but when talking about these things, PvE needs to be considered. Since powers don't have different effects in PvP or PvE, making it better in PvP makes it better in PvE. and in PvE, you can already just spam this one ability and go from level 1-VR14 basically.

They can do it. Like I said above, NB's Ambush works differently in PvP and PvE.

technohic

danno8 wrote: »

NB's got a separate effect for Ambush for PvP (immobilize instead of stun, oh and the stun in PvE does not give out immunity btw), so I think they should do the same for jabs.

1 second immobilize instead of knockback if enemy is another player.

That would be decent.

s7732425ub17_ESO

The CC is amazing in non-endgame PVE.

technohic

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

The CC is amazing in non-endgame PVE.

Cause its totally needed in the easy as hell PVE.