Light attacks ?

crowfl56

Ok I am about to give up on pvp.

Last night I took 25k damage from a light attack.

Don't you think that is a bit over the top from a light attack ?

No wonder people like the spam queens in pvp. sheeesh.

So lets see a siege weapon, say a fire ballista, gets a direct hit on you, total damage is 25k.

Even if you have every stat is boosted and you crit every time, a light attack should not do that kind of damage or even close to that number.

I think some have discovered another bug and of course its pvp so lets exploit it.

Oh and my toon is a vr14 templer, stam build.

The player that did the dmg is a pvp level 43, which imo did so interesting playing to get so high.

Or am I just not understanding how people find ways to get max dmg from anything ?

LameoveR

May it be an Overload empowered critical light atack?

ItsRejectz

No standard light attack in game hits that hard, except Overload. It's an Ultimate, so expect it to hit hard

crowfl56

Doesn't matter what spell line does it ?

A 25k light attack is total baloney

period.

ItsRejectz

crowfl56 wrote: »

Doesn't matter what spell line does it ?

A 25k light attack is total baloney

period.

It's an Ultimate, Ults hit hard.

Period.

ToRelax

crowfl56 wrote: »

Doesn't matter what spell line does it ?

A 25k light attack is total baloney

period.

It's a spell, it has a global cooldown, the fact it is also a light attack just makes you unable to weave in light/heavy attacks.

crowfl56

What part of light attack do you all not understand ?

Even if its off an ultimate, ITS A LIGHT attack.

So again I would say 25k is way OP,

Now I realize you sorc's out there just love it, so would I

ItsRejectz

crowfl56 wrote: »

What part of light attack do you all not understand ?

Even if its off an ultimate, ITS A LIGHT attack.

So again I would say 25k is way OP,

Now I realize you sorc's out there just love it, so would I

But it's not a "light attack" it's the light attack of an Ultimate..

LameoveR

Okay..
Light attack of your destro staff for example does 1k dmg.
Overload ultimate's light attack does 10k dmg comparing to common light attack of your destro staff.
is it clear now?

crowfl56

Ok so that makes it right ?

You hit your ultimate "Overload" which by the way gives you a 3rd spell bar.

No other class has 3 spell bars.

But, because you are using an ultimate it means you can use light attack to do as much damage as a siege weapon now?

I would say some changes are needed here

LameoveR

I see. You wanna to complain about sorcs.
Good luck.

crowfl56

nope, just want to show folks just how unreal certain class's can get with alittle fine tuning.

So there to .

So again I would say NO 25k light attacks period.

Or give all class's a 25k light attack.

Now wouldn't that be fun

Pancake-Tragedy

crowfl56 wrote: »

What part of light attack do you all not understand ?

Even if its off an ultimate, ITS A LIGHT attack.

So again I would say 25k is way OP,

Now I realize you sorc's out there just love it, so would I

You could go make a sammich before the overload light attack hits you though.

Imagine what else you can do in the time frame it takes for the overload light attack to reach you: dodge roll, block, use scales, use defensive stance, make this QQ post on the forums, etc, etc


Fun fact: I've been using Blur on my NB to out run the overload projectile.

Tankqull

well overload does ~8-12k dmg before spell resists while beeing buffed so without some bug (wich the game contains way to much sadly) the dmg you observed is not possible.

Panda244

This is... I just...


Roll Dodge

Defensive Posture & Morphs

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Block

Harness Magicka & Morphs

Igneous Shield & Morphs

Conjured Ward & Morphs

Dark Cloak & Morphs


There's half a dozen ways to counter Power Overload's Light Attack. It's not unreal @crowfl56 it's an Ultimate ability, you don't stand inside a Dragonknight's Standard, you don't sit inside a Templar's Nova, you don't let an Overload Light Attack hit you in the face, the only. Only. Way that it would deal that much damage is if you let it hit you, blocking negates nearly the entire thing's damage by itself, or you can just ignore it with certain abilities.

It's not a Light Attack it's Power Overload's Light Attack.

Sorcerer's are in need of re-balancing yes, Overload has NOTHING to do with it. Overload is probably the worst Ultimate in the game as it's so easily ignored.

crowfl56

Ok since I do use those skills and still get wreaked.

Plus why would I lie about the damage that was in the recap window?

It did surprise me too.

Panda244

crowfl56 wrote: »

Ok since I do use those skills and still get wreaked.

Plus why would I lie about the damage that was in the recap window?

It did surprise me too.

Entropy = 20% boost to next attack, and 20% increase to spell damage.

If the sorcerer was running all divines gear and the shadow and a raw spell damage build AND he crit you... AND he had nirnhoned, it's very possible. I don't doubt the damage in your recap, I've been hit for 15k+ by Overload without it critting, so I can see 25k.

Still, no reason to nerf an ability with so many counters.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Mixed feelings on this as a Stamina Nightblade that does Bow & One Hand Shield I send Overload and Meteors back a lot but never have my add on register a 25K Overload or Meteor.

Yes it's hella easy to counter it but I have had my whole death recap just Overload reason I now use sword and shield but one hit for 25k on a power that can hit that many times in a row is beyond ridiculous.

Look at it this way if my Nightblade's cheap 50 ultimate Incapacitating Strikes hit that hard everyome would call for a heavy handed nerf 25k with one cheap or spamming power is crazy

Panda244

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Mixed feelings on this as a Stamina Nightblade that does Bow & One Hand Shield I send Overload and Meteors back a lot but never have my add on register a 25K Overload or Meteor.

Yes it's hella easy to counter it but I have had my whole death recap just Overload reason I now use sword and shield but one hit for 25k on a power that can hit that many times in a row is beyond ridiculous.

Look at it this way if my Nightblade's cheap 50 ultimate Incapacitating Strikes hit that hard everyome would call for a heavy handed nerf 25k with one cheap or spamming power is crazy

But it's easily avoided, can be reflected back at the sorcerer in question, and incap strike charges in 16s give or take a second and hits for 10k... So...

LameoveR

crowfl56 wrote: »

nope, just want to show folks just how unreal certain class's can get with alittle fine tuning.

So there to .

So again I would say NO 25k light attacks period.

Or give all class's a 25k light attack.

Now wouldn't that be fun

You don't get it still.
It's not a common light attack you can spam whole day.
It's ultimate's light attack, that uses ultimate resource. Sorc can shoot it ~20 times, maybe.
Then he will run out of ultimate.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Panda244 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Mixed feelings on this as a Stamina Nightblade that does Bow & One Hand Shield I send Overload and Meteors back a lot but never have my add on register a 25K Overload or Meteor.

Yes it's hella easy to counter it but I have had my whole death recap just Overload reason I now use sword and shield but one hit for 25k on a power that can hit that many times in a row is beyond ridiculous.

Look at it this way if my Nightblade's cheap 50 ultimate Incapacitating Strikes hit that hard everyome would call for a heavy handed nerf 25k with one cheap or spamming power is crazy

But it's easily avoided, can be reflected back at the sorcerer in question, and incap strike charges in 16s give or take a second and hits for 10k... So...

Has to go Sword and Shield to reflect it a stamina weapon that's weak on damage compared to the other weapons only have it for the reflex

And like I said never had it hit me for 25k ever I would rage too if it hit that hard the part no one is focusing on

If it was so unless people wouldn't use it when was the last time a Nightblade's Agony or Path of Darkness was on you death recap never cause they are garage (path got some love in 1.6 so maybe it's something now) but they are pointless powers to have

Side note most ultimates are easily avoidable ground effects for roll out, channels Purge, burst damage you have to just eat that damage so no real meat to that its counter able argument

Pancake-Tragedy

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

If it was so unless people wouldn't use it when was the last time a Nightblade's Agony or Path of Darkness was on you death recap never cause they are garage (path got some love in 1.6 so maybe it's something now) but they are pointless powers to have

What does this have anything to do with overload? NBs are the king of QQ, nerf NB

Side note most ultimates are easily avoidable ground effects for roll out, channels Purge, burst damage you have to just eat that damage so no real meat to that its counter able argument

Overload is incredibly easy to avoid. There have been numerous counters listed in this post already. Use them, they work.

LameoveR

Don't avoid Overload plz.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

If it was so unless people wouldn't use it when was the last time a Nightblade's Agony or Path of Darkness was on you death recap never cause they are garage (path got some love in 1.6 so maybe it's something now) but they are pointless powers to have

What does this have anything to do with overload? NBs are the king of QQ, nerf NB

Side note most ultimates are easily avoidable ground effects for roll out, channels Purge, burst damage you have to just eat that damage so no real meat to that its counter able argument

Overload is incredibly easy to avoid. There have been numerous counters listed in this post already. Use them, they work.

I'm always amazed when you guys respond because you reply but I'm not sure you can read I use the reflection of Sword and Board to hilarious effects with my free ultimate meteor that you guys gift to me so often.

And the point of mentioning agony and path of darkness was apparently too over your head as it states that they are pointless and no one use them whereas your sorc ultimate seems to be pointless but half the Sorcs in PvP use it not just for the third bar but use the power it self

Maybe if they taught you to read you would do better in life if you need me to I can pay for you to go to a private schoo lbecause you're reading skill are a tragedy

Pancake-Tragedy

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

If it was so unless people wouldn't use it when was the last time a Nightblade's Agony or Path of Darkness was on you death recap never cause they are garage (path got some love in 1.6 so maybe it's something now) but they are pointless powers to have

What does this have anything to do with overload? NBs are the king of QQ, nerf NB

Side note most ultimates are easily avoidable ground effects for roll out, channels Purge, burst damage you have to just eat that damage so no real meat to that its counter able argument

Overload is incredibly easy to avoid. There have been numerous counters listed in this post already. Use them, they work.

I'm always amazed when you guys respond because you reply but I'm not sure you can read I use the reflection of Sword and Board to hilarious effects with my free ultimate meteor that you guys gift to me so often.

And the point of mentioning agony and path of darkness was apparently too over your head as it states that they are pointless and no one use them whereas your sorc ultimate seems to be pointless but half the Sorcs in PvP use it not just for the third bar but use the power it self

Maybe if they taught you to read you would do better in life if you need me to I can pay for you to go to a private schoo lbecause you're reading skill are a tragedy

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Are you sensing that because you can't read or?

Pancake-Tragedy

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Are you sensing that because you can't read or?

Yeah, that's totally it. You caught me.

Skafsgaard

ItsRejectz wrote: »

No standard light attack in game hits that hard, except Overload. It's an Ultimate, so expect it to hit hard

Priceless - its an ult, expect it to hit hard... haha get a *** clue man

Cinnamon_Spider

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Mixed feelings on this as a Stamina Nightblade that does Bow & One Hand Shield I send Overload and Meteors back a lot but never have my add on register a 25K Overload or Meteor.

Yes it's hella easy to counter it but I have had my whole death recap just Overload reason I now use sword and shield but one hit for 25k on a power that can hit that many times in a row is beyond ridiculous.

Look at it this way if my Nightblade's cheap 50 ultimate Incapacitating Strikes hit that hard everyome would call for a heavy handed nerf 25k with one cheap or spamming power is crazy

But it's easily avoided, can be reflected back at the sorcerer in question, and incap strike charges in 16s give or take a second and hits for 10k... So...

Has to go Sword and Shield to reflect it a stamina weapon that's weak on damage compared to the other weapons only have it for the reflex

And like I said never had it hit me for 25k ever I would rage too if it hit that hard the part no one is focusing on

If it was so unless people wouldn't use it when was the last time a Nightblade's Agony or Path of Darkness was on you death recap never cause they are garage (path got some love in 1.6 so maybe it's something now) but they are pointless powers to have

Side note most ultimates are easily avoidable ground effects for roll out, channels Purge, burst damage you have to just eat that damage so no real meat to that its counter able argument

Welcome to the defensive stance club. I'll have to remember that next time I'm overloading your face while you stand there instead of barrel rolling like most other NB I come across.

Joy_Division

It's disingenuous to call it a "light attack." It is an ultimate attack that has nothing to do with the standard light attacks from mundane weapons.

I will say the skill is silly when it comes to balance because it is stupidly OP against opponents who do not defend against it (for whatever reason) and next to useless against those that do.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

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